Any Vapers?

[essenbe]

I believe somewhere along the line you have to ask yourself,
Are you vaping more or less than you were smoking
Costs and health are a good enough reason to vapor but is the habit just switching to something your doing more ?

When I smoke I smoke the same thing they were not flavored....

I have to go back to what John said a while back,
Not a quote Does vaporing just morph into a wild hobby "healthier hobby" which by the way the jury is still out on that one there's not enough history there,

I still have the same smoking intervals albeit now replaced with vaporing instead.

Mike, to me, I think it depends on the attitude you approach Vaping with. Some people do see it as a 'healthier hobby' and really like vaping, and if they get off of cigarettes and lower the nicotine level to 0, would continue vaping, just because they enjoy it. The other extreme I think, are people like me. I'm not all that enthused about Vaping and see it as a means to an end. If I could use it to get off of cigarettes, which I haven't done, then get down to 0 mg in the juice, I would not vape any more. It will have served it's purpose. Then there are all sorts in between those two extremes.

So, I really think it depends on the individual. Right now, I haven't quit cigarettes. I have made what I consider a great improvement. I have gone from smoking 3 packs a day down to 1 pack max, but usually less than 1 pack. But that's not what I want. At this time vaping is pretty much to help me put off the time between cigarettes. But, I want off completely, and hope to accomplish that. As soon as I can do that, I plan to drop the strength of Nicotine in the juice and try to get down to 0, at which time I will quit vaping too. That's my attitude about it, which I admit may change in time. Others feel much different about Vaping, which is fine. I agree the Jury is still out on the long term effects of vaping, but I think that no matter what they are, they have to be better than putting all the carcinogens in your system constantly. But, again, that's just me. Everyone has his/her opinion of Vaping, that's just mine. I don't begrudge anyone if they feel different about it. We all have our opinions and attitudes on it and most of us probably look at it different. And I suspect most see it different than I do, which is fine.

 

[ThrashZone]

Thank you Steve for your take on this stuff it's exactly what I was wondering and agree completely with your goal

I've fallen a bit behind,
I find myself using the volcano every hour but no real sigs between cycles,
Which before was using the BLU every 2 hours and a cig two hours after that,
I wouldn't and still don't vapor longer than it takes to smoke a sig 100's about 10 minutes at the most,

I hate watching the clock setting an alert really but it's the only way to know what the heck the habit is and tell where improvements are going good or bad

 

[Wishmaster]

I think vaping is still bad for us. Nicotine alone is really bad.
But, its missing alot of the tar, carbon monoxide etc that really make cigarettes bad.

So, bad yes. But the far lesser evil of the two and far healthier than tobacco. Still not healthy, but a huge leap better.

I'm not really sure what I'll do when/if I make it to 0mg nicotine.

On one hand being done with it all together is the ideal solution.
On the other, I enjoy it and it will serve that physical need.

I guess time will tell. But I think my goal now is to get to 0, do that a while then be done with it all together,.

 

[ThrashZone]

Yea I'm just trying to get a feel for how frequently y'all vapor and when you do for how long,
Cig's don't lie they burn and are out in about 5 + minutes depending on if you hotbox them,
Then you might chain smoke or wait 30 minutes... until another ?

 

[essenbe]

Well, Wishmaster, I guess I had you pegged wrong. You sound much more like me. I had you as one of the ones who would continue vaping at 0. Goes to show how well we really know others in the virtual world.

According to a few of the links Derek gave us, whatever strength you use, you actually intake estimates of from 10=30% of the Nicotine. So, depending on how much you vape and the strength, I don't know how to correlate it to smpking a real cig. I don't set a schedule. I just vape whenever I want to. It may be wiser to set a schedule, I don't know. But, I figure the way you said. It's better for me to vape than smoke, so I try to do that. I sort of feel like it's a small victory when I want a cig, but vape instead. At this point, I don't care how much I vape, if it gets me off of cigs. If/when that happens, I'll fight the vaping battle then. I really feel like it is the physical habit of smoking than the Nicotine battle at this point. If I can get comfortable at vaping 0, then I will only have 1 battle to fight instead of 2. That's my idea anyway. I guess this is turning into a 'bare your soul' thread.

 

[ThrashZone]

Agreed Steve vapor as much as needed to get off cigs buddy,
3 packs to 1 pack a day is huge

I personally have to schedule to be able to tell if I'm improving otherwise how could anyone tell :/

 

[SIW2]

I was wondering about that. You know when you have finished a cig. How do you know when to stop a vaping session? You might get a headache if you keep at it too long.

Seems to me to be a fantastic thing. The effects you want from the nicotine and none of the crap chemicals from burning leaves.

 

[derekimo]

Yes. Where I mix my own Ejuices often I have all the base mixes, VG, PG, and Nicotine as well as tons of flavor concentrates. So I can mix a bottle of juice from scratch or alter vender ones.


Adding PG will thin out a juice thats got too much VG for my taste and add a throat hit. I can also mix it with Nic and raise the nic level a bit too. or add pure VG to high PG blends to smooth them out.
The downside to doing this however is it essentially dilutes the Ejuice causing it to loose some flavor. So it needs to be done sparingly.

Yeah, I was thinking if you just add a little more PG to get the throat hit, I didn't think about it diluting the flavor. I'll have to look into that a little more.


As for what Mike was wondering, my smoking habit was probably a little different only because I was rolling mine, they tend to go out more so a lot of my habit was holding them and relighting when I wanted a puff.

My vaping habit has followed that, I just hold on to it mostly, take a vape or two when I feel the need.

My short term goal at the moment is to just stay off the cigarettes, long term would be to lose the habit entirely.

 

[Wishmaster]

yes essenbe, the physical aspect is really hard to break for some of us. I know it certainly was for me.

Just something to be doing with my hands, walking around with my dog .. I don't know but it was difficult for me.

Try telling yourself that it's not the nicotine your craving, its the physical aspect. And stick with it maybe. It's rough, I know. But if you can manage that for a couple days, it will get better. And before you know all is well.

I think the vape kills the nicotine urge, but it doesn't satisfy that physical habit... I guess is how to put it. It was the hardest part for me personally.


But I know, far easier said than done.


Who knows, i may actually still vape at 0mg, but Im going to try and quit all together. just no time soon

 

[essenbe]

I really think the psychological habit is the part I'm having the most trouble with. I know before I started Vaping, when gaming I would light a cig and set it in the ashtray and never smoke it. But, as long as it was there, I was happy. I didn't need to smoke it.

I seem to have the most trouble when I first wake up. After I get awake and during the day I don't have near as much trouble. Until I eat. Heck, I even catch myself smoking and vaping at the same time. That can be looked at as good or bad. But, it's still the psychological addiction I have the most problems with.

 

[derekimo]

I used to do that at work Steve, (When I worked) Light a smoke and set it down, never take a puff but felt better if it was there.

I still reach down for my tobacco can out of habit, so I know a lot of my routine was the psychological habit.

 

[ThrashZone]

Might have to try some incense

 

[Night Hawk]

I was surprised to some extent to even hear about this thread since not having been around lately. Back in 2012 when someone on another site posted something on the subject I had to edit that and it got me a little more curious about things until I ran into someone else making the move to quit 4 packs a day! Over the next several months time we both managed to say "BYE BYE" to all tobacco products once and for all!

I know how easy it is to fall behind and back into it having actually quit once for about 8 months cold turkey. This time however menthol smoke has a new opponent in menthol vapor! And apparently that move was just in time as the state decided to add another $1.50 to the cig tax and all pharmacies could no longer carry any products state wide! Gee look at all that $$$ saved in now 23 months of vaping and 1 1/2yrs. completely smoke free. That old nasty habit broken for good! And guess what? 0% nicotine shortly after upgrading from prefilled see you coming to a then new independent vendor who makes his own ejuice and now one of the top 5 US vendors! He had been the one who quit the 4 pack a day habit.

 

[essenbe]

Very good story, night hawk. I hope to be one of you eventually. But, I am pretty certain I wouldn't like Vaping incense.

 

[Night Hawk]

It still takes a bit to get used to. It's a totally different experience and one thing I can easily say is that you won't even notice if nicotine is present or not until you have vaped for some time and find with nic warmer vape and less flavor of the flavoring!

The real draw to tobacco is the memory of tobacco flavor over nicotine itself. Once you have vaped for some time whether tobacco or other flavors the memory of that experience will change how smoke feels to you. You will no longer smell like an ash tray or feel any tightness and irratation in the chest and passageways but refreshed at times! Vape'n'Coffee anyone?!

Another thing to note is the research funded for a private study on contaminants if any was seen to by an organization looking at Tobacco Harm Reduction as their main goal and even getting petitions going to present to law makers and the FDA. That's one of the active groups in that area. The result at one medical university was a 22 page Tech report indicating no pollutants or long term side effects found. Compare that to over 4,000 chemical additives, 68 known carcinogens, and a whole lot of other crud in smoke!

Once I quit another discovery of course was the costs! Instead of $300 a month based on $100 approx per carton as I was gradually reducing how much I smoked at one time 3 packs daily back in the 70s working long hours with long break during those old yes you can days before public bans came about I dropped in recent year to under a pack and then by the time I was updating hardwares under a half pack!

Try only 3 packs a week before the last came. Since I didn't need to build a new case still running 7 I ended up with $$$ to spend and still far less on vaping. The costs on both the obvious change of product lines and health overall a great investment!

 

[Dude]

I started vaping today, three hours in and good so far. Wish me luck

 

[derekimo]

Welcome to the club Doug, good luck with the vaping. What are you using?

 

[Dude]

Got a free cheapy one to start with. They mailed it to me, it's a Vuse. Will be going to a vapor store soon to get a custom one.

 

[paulpicks21]

Awesome Doug. The very best of luck my friend.

Paul

 

[derekimo]

As long as it works, good price on that. I started with one of those blu ecigs.