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How high do you crank them up Mike? I'm usually in the 11W to 13W range.

At the moment I'm at 3.9 and 9.0 I forget which is which :o
Inferno soaks up way less juice can't remember what it uses either lol :D
 

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Yep I believe it's a 1.8 coil on the yes volcano inferno juice goes allot further on it than the nautilus same 1.8 but I imagine cranked allot more than the inferno is capable of.
I did learn you or at least I have to puff to prime it often the nautilus that is or really both to keep them from dry hitting and burning out the coils.
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Ha thanks Derek I had no idea what it burned at :)
 

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There's a large difference between a clearomizer and a tank like the Nautilus. A typical clearomizer won't see anywhere near the same level of vapor as a good tank will even when the wattage is bumped a bit on the clearomizer! I've seen that enough with a variety of clearomizers and tanks. As for the 3.9 and 9.0 that would be 3.9v if you are seeing that on an lcd display and 9w. But don't get fooled. The actual output will vary when placing a passthrough ohm and power type meter inline.
 

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Let me know what you think Derek. I might try some stronger nic just to see in the new tank. I just refilled with another juice in the new tank. I'm quite impressed, it is a smores flavor that took a while to come alive in the Nautilus. It really came alive in the new tank. I'm more of a flavor chaser vs clouds, and this new tank it packs a lot of flavor. You will see I'm sure when you try the Atlantis I think. Good luck and vape on :D

OK, I probably should have started with something other than 80/20 PG/VG, I was getting no vapor so I switched to some 50/50 Deadly Sin and it's a little better.

It's different, I'll say that, I'm not a lung hitter so I may not be getting the most out of it but I'll keep playing with it for a bit, I'm at 25W right now but the 18mg nic isn't really bothering me so far.
 

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Yea, sadly that the case most of the time. You just have to choose what best suits you.

I would say though, that while typical clear-o-mizer may not have the best vapor production, or hold as much juice vs a tank, many times they tend to produce a bit better flavor.
Granted, this is not always the case, just a 'in general" conclusion.

There are always plus and minuses to any set up. So whats "best" really is a personal thing.

But that gap between the two is closing with newer better tanks/rtas so youre getting the best of both.


Fortunately, the prices are coming down a great deal to on some the higher end devices.



Personally, I don't to 80VG blends for a daily vape. It tends to be smoother, thicker clouds etc, but also a thicker juice.
but, flavors are so different with different blends/nic strengths it varies.

I find 50/50 is the best all around. Its what I mix most of my juices at and occasionally 40vg/60opg.
 

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Yeah, I think that was why I took so long to give this Atlantis a try, I am fine with the Nautilus and recently the GS Air tanks.

I can see why it's so easy for some to just keep looking for a little better, I just don't want to keep buying hardware if what I have is working.

The Atlantis was a freebie so I thought I'd give it a try.

I think I am getting a little lightheaded off the 18mg nic now.

I've been mostly using 80PG except for the Deadly Sin. I tried some free juice that was higher VG and it was making my chest tight, I didn't like that.
 

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Yeah, I think that was why I took so long to give this Atlantis a try, I am fine with the Nautilus and recently the GS Air tanks.

I can see why it's so easy for some to just keep looking for a little better, I just don't want to keep buying hardware if what I have is working.

The Atlantis was a freebie so I thought I'd give it a try.

I think I am getting a little lightheaded off the 18mg nic now.

I've been mostly using 80PG except for the Deadly Sin. I tried some free juice that was higher VG and it was making my chest tight, I didn't like that.

The bigger vapor production can certainly be more satisfying overall. But i too had that same Nic issue when moving to that kind of gear.
Depending on your Nic needs, maybe a 12mg or 10mg would be equal to the 18 depending on how much vapor you are producing in comparison.
 

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Yeah, I think that was why I took so long to give this Atlantis a try, I am fine with the Nautilus and recently the GS Air tanks.

I can see why it's so easy for some to just keep looking for a little better, I just don't want to keep buying hardware if what I have is working.

The Atlantis was a freebie so I thought I'd give it a try.

I think I am getting a little lightheaded off the 18mg nic now.

I've been mostly using 80PG except for the Deadly Sin. I tried some free juice that was higher VG and it was making my chest tight, I didn't like that.

The bigger vapor production can certainly be more satisfying overall. But i too had that same Nic issue when moving to that kind of gear.
Depending on your Nic needs, maybe a 12mg or 10mg would be equal to the 18 depending on how much vapor you are producing in comparison.

Yeah, I figured I would have to drop down I was seeing how this thing works.

I can understand the vapor being more satisfying, you sure miss it when it ain't there.

I like the throat hit too.

There's definitely a million combinations when it comes to this stuff.
 

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For those just starting off and those that simply look more for flavor 70/30 is the norm. For clearomizers the top coiled CE2-4 long wicked 1.6ml have always been problematic with dry hits unless you kept turning them upside down and turning them to keep the upper portion saturated when not having a full tank section. And once you had a good dry hit the wicks would show the brown spots from the burns.

The recent farse about formaldehyde was simply the nonsense of taking one of the older top coiled clearomizers and cranking things up higher then anyone would normally see just to intentionally burn the wick material so they could say: "see see there's..."! With the latest CE5 clearomizers on the other hand those are bottom coil and some wickless which should be seeing a smoother vape while I took one of those a vendor tossed in on an order and you could hardly get anything out of it.

At the same not all tanks are rosey either! The first DCT tanks were nothing but a disaster of leaks and soon dead cartimizers. They weren't well liked on the first Vamo V2 either! The second of those had a stainless threaded locking ring to keep the tank from leaking which it still did. Then the first VVV/VW mod to follow was the MVP2.0 having just bought the IClear 30, Vision Victory, and SMOK Trophy tanks to try out when getting away from the top coiled. All three failed while none leaked at putting out anything adequate for vapor. There was a serious lack of air flow. Then the second IClear 30 that came in the MVP2.0 kit went along with the first plus the other two to a friend's daughter being introduced to vaping to keep her from a smoking habit. By then some people were raving about the Viva Nova and Tumbler tanks Smoktech put out and I found that the Tumbler was going to work well for the under 10w crowd.
 

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Windows 7 Professional 64 bit
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Yes it is different Derek. I find I like the Melo at 22watts. I bump it up occasionally just to experiment. I keep another flavor in the Nautilus and rotate back and forth. I also use the smallest air hole setting, just the opposite with the Nautilus. The air ring on the melo is really tight. I have to use both hands to adjust it.
 

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Windows 10 Pro X64Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo8.00 GB DDR3 1600MhzMSI Gaming X GTX 1070
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dude Build
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo
Motherboard
MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming
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8.00 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
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MSI Gaming X GTX 1070
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Realtek High Definition
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Dell S23O9W, HP L1710
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Seasonic X650 GOLD
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Zalman Z12
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MSI DS100 Interceptor
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Yep keep priming the nautilus and the coils will last allot longer,
I find the air hole I like best is 1 down from the largest,
Yea I assumed the symbol "P" was ohm not sure why they used a P though but 3.9 looks more like a U than a V :p
 

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Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
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ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
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Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
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EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
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2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
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Yep keep priming the nautilus and the coils will last allot longer,
I find the air hole I like best is 1 down from the largest,
Yea I assumed the symbol "P" was ohm not sure why they used a P though but 3.9 looks more like a U than a V :p

How long do your coils last for the Nautilus Mike? I get about a week on each one, then the flavor starts to fall off.
 

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Windows 10 Pro X64Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo8.00 GB DDR3 1600MhzMSI Gaming X GTX 1070
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dude Build
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo
Motherboard
MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming
Memory
8.00 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Gaming X GTX 1070
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
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Dell S23O9W, HP L1710
Screen Resolution
DELL-1920 x 1080 HP-1280 x1024
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Crucial m4 256 SSD, WD 7200RPM 500GB WD 1TB
PSU
Seasonic X650 GOLD
Case
Zalman Z12
Cooling
Antec Kuhler 920
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
MSI DS100 Interceptor
Internet Speed
50 down and 5 up
Antivirus
MSE
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Chrome, IE 11
Other Info
Logitech X-620 Speakers
I just started doing the extra puff priming to force bubbles to exit the coil,
This one is on a week now and still going strong,
Flavors I wouldn't know I'm using a raspberry but with no boost so it's a slight taste already so it's easily missed after first using the juice,
I'll get back to you on this coil but it has promise some I only got a couple days out of them seems coil quality might be another issue ?
But I ultimately believe I was just burning them up by not priming them with extra puffs ;)
Cheers.
Owe just put your finger over the air hole and puff to prime :)
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
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Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
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Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
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FireFox & Pale moon
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Thanks Mike
 

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Windows 10 Pro X64Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo8.00 GB DDR3 1600MhzMSI Gaming X GTX 1070
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Dude Build
OS
Windows 10 Pro X64
CPU
Intel(R) Core(TM) i5-3570K CPU OC@ 4.5GHZ Turbo
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MSI Z77A-G45 Gaming
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8.00 GB DDR3 1600Mhz
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Realtek High Definition
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Dell S23O9W, HP L1710
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Crucial m4 256 SSD, WD 7200RPM 500GB WD 1TB
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Seasonic X650 GOLD
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Zalman Z12
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Antec Kuhler 920
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Logitech
Mouse
MSI DS100 Interceptor
Internet Speed
50 down and 5 up
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Chrome, IE 11
Other Info
Logitech X-620 Speakers
No problem,
When I first got the tank the coil did last 2 weeks,
But that was using the default settings for the itaste 3.3 V and 6 watts
Dropping the nic I had to crank it up to get the throat hit Derek mentions is needed for me too I believe Paul says the same :)
Without priming it just burned them up :(
 

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Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
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Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
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FireFox & Pale moon
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Yes it is different Derek. I find I like the Melo at 22watts. I bump it up occasionally just to experiment. I keep another flavor in the Nautilus and rotate back and forth. I also use the smallest air hole setting, just the opposite with the Nautilus. The air ring on the melo is really tight. I have to use both hands to adjust it.

I have the Atlantis on the smallest opening too, Nautilus is usually wide open or the next one down.

I don't see myself dumping the Nautilus but I'll keep playing with this Atlantis a bit more.

Yep keep priming the nautilus and the coils will last allot longer,
I find the air hole I like best is 1 down from the largest,
Yea I assumed the symbol "P" was ohm not sure why they used a P though but 3.9 looks more like a U than a V :p

The "P" is for Power which is measured in Watts. It is a "U" but it is the Voltage button, I guess they didn't like "V" or thought it would be misinterpreted for something else, maybe a down button?

I only have to prime a new coil myself, dry puffs and start on low volts/watts then increase to my sweet spot.

How long do your coils last for the Nautilus Mike? I get about a week on each one, then the flavor starts to fall off.

That's a good average for me too Doug, about a week or 10 days if I stretch it. If I am using higher watts they don't last as long for me.
 

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Win 10 Pro x64Intel I5-2500K @3.3GHz16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X (4x4GB)EVGA GeForce 750 Ti SC 2GB
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self Built
OS
Win 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel I5-2500K @3.3GHz
Motherboard
Asrock P67 Extreme4
Memory
16GB G.Skill Ripjaws X (4x4GB)
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GeForce 750 Ti SC 2GB
Sound Card
ASUS Xonar DG 5.1 Channels 24-bit 96KHz PCI Interface Sound
Monitor(s) Displays
auria eq2367
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung 850 EVO SSD
1TB WD Blue
1TB Hitachi
PSU
SeaSonic X 650W 80 Plus Gold
Case
Corsair Obsidian 750D
Cooling
Corsair H60, Three 140mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech Wireless Keyboard K520
Mouse
Logitech Wireless Mouse M310
Internet Speed
Wave Broadband ~ 100 dn 5 up
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Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Premium
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Edge, IE11, Chrome
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Laptop specs: HP g7-1365dx /
CPU: AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics /
RAM: Crucial 8Gb (2x4Gb) /
SSD: Crucial M4-CT128M4SSD2 ATA Device/ FW 000F /
GFX: AMD Radeon HD 6520G /
OS: Windows 10 Pro x64
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