ATI Radeon 5970 vs SLI GTX 480 (Fermi)

Davidxtux

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As promised from a previous post I'd start posting reviews as my friend and I put our cards to the test.


My Build:
OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz
Motherboard MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI
Memory G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC3 12800)
Graphics Card(s) SLI 2x MSI N480GTX-M2D15-B GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 60hz
PSU
Antec TPQ-1200 1200W Continuous Power with PowerCache

His Build:

OS Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz
Motherboard
MSI 890FXA-GD70 AM3 AMD 890FX SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 (PC3 12800)
Graphics Card(s) XFX HD-597A-CNB9 Radeon HD 5970 Black Edition 2GB 512 (256 x 2)-bit GDDR5
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 60hz
PSU
hec Zephyr 1000 1000W ATX12V V2.2 / EPS12V V2.91


Though are builds are slightly different.. they are close enough for us to benchmark them against each other. One thing I can confirm as of now.. while tessellation is on. His 5970 ,sadly, doesn't stand a chance against my setup with 1 480 (other 480 on physX). So we made the agreement to, when possible, not run tessellation during our benchmarks.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bitAMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3...G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC...SLI GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Barebones
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz
Motherboard
MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC3 12800)
Graphics Card(s)
SLI GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Toshiba TV 42'' or 27.5'' widescreen monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 60hz
Hard Drives
2x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/
PSU
Antec TPQ-1200 1200W Continuous Power with PowerCache
Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full To
Cooling
1 x 140mm rear fan, 3x 230mm Fans (front, top, side)
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech MX 518
Internet Speed
13 mb/s down 5.5 mb/s up
Other Info
Main system.. other system is slightly different
His build is actually cheaper and uses less power (more money in his pocket every month).
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium x64Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz4GB DDR2-800MSI Radeon HD 5850
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz
Motherboard
Asus P5Q PRO Turbo
Memory
4GB DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Radeon HD 5850
Sound Card
Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 225BW
Hard Drives
(2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3
PSU
Corsair HX650
Case
Antec Nine Hundred
His build is actually cheaper and uses less power (more money in his pocket every month).


Depends really on where and how you get the parts. We paid pretty much the same except I went for larger PSU. Once we get this hw monitors to record data as we take it through some tests I'll start to post some reviews. I upgraded from a tri-sli 250 and him from crossfire 5770.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bitAMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3...G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC...SLI GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Barebones
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz
Motherboard
MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC3 12800)
Graphics Card(s)
SLI GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Toshiba TV 42'' or 27.5'' widescreen monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 60hz
Hard Drives
2x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/
PSU
Antec TPQ-1200 1200W Continuous Power with PowerCache
Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full To
Cooling
1 x 140mm rear fan, 3x 230mm Fans (front, top, side)
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech MX 518
Internet Speed
13 mb/s down 5.5 mb/s up
Other Info
Main system.. other system is slightly different
Radeon HD 5970 = $699
(2) GeForce GTX 480 = $998

hec Zephyr 1000 = $179
Antec TPQ-1200 = $279

You would have been fine with the 1kW PSU. He saved $400 compared to you.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium x64Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz4GB DDR2-800MSI Radeon HD 5850
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
Intel Core 2 Quad Q9450 @ 3.2GHz
Motherboard
Asus P5Q PRO Turbo
Memory
4GB DDR2-800
Graphics Card(s)
MSI Radeon HD 5850
Sound Card
Creative Labs Audigy2 ZS
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung 225BW
Hard Drives
(2) 1TB Samsung F1, (2) 1.5TB Samsung F2, 1TB Samsung F2, 2TB Samsung F3
PSU
Corsair HX650
Case
Antec Nine Hundred
Maybe you missed what I said in my post or perhaps you were to set on proving a point. A received one 480 through a promotional offer and only purchased the second one. My PSU I got on sale from a local computer shop which was closing down and got it at half price for $125.99. While he paid $199 for his. So according to your math....

Radeon HD 5970 = $719 (What he actually paid for it. not 699.)
2x Geforce GTX480 = 1 free and 1 at $459.99

hec Zephyr 1000 = $199
Antec TPQ-1200 = $125.99

So he spent: $918.99 and I spent 585.98. So I saved $333.01. and thats just where the savings begin as we both have been through this already.

So I'll say it one more time and I'll even bold it for yah. Depends really on where and how you get the parts.

Now I will state this.. This post will be for information only. If you feel compelled to resurrect another age-old battle on who is better, ATI or Nvidia, go find another post to spam. As I have tried them both and one thing remains the same. Nvidia produces reliable drivers and ATI produces faster game friendly cards. Some models on either side sometimes slip through the hole and triumph but that simple fact has remained since both parties started competing with each other.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bitAMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3...G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC...SLI GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Barebones
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz
Motherboard
MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC3 12800)
Graphics Card(s)
SLI GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Toshiba TV 42'' or 27.5'' widescreen monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 60hz
Hard Drives
2x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/
PSU
Antec TPQ-1200 1200W Continuous Power with PowerCache
Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full To
Cooling
1 x 140mm rear fan, 3x 230mm Fans (front, top, side)
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech MX 518
Internet Speed
13 mb/s down 5.5 mb/s up
Other Info
Main system.. other system is slightly different
One thing I can confirm as of now.. while tessellation is on. His 5970 ,sadly, doesn't stand a chance against my setup with 1 480 (other 480 on physX).

The 5970 is woeful at tessellation. Tbh, it's rather a disappointing card.

Once we get this hw monitors to record data as we take it through some tests I'll start to post some reviews.

Look forward to it.

Ah, I see David. Thanks. There are plenty of GTX 480 in SLI reviews on the web though.

Some more evenly matched, unbiased, user level opinions/reviews is never a bad thing.


Not sure if I would call nVIDIA's drivers more reliable than ATI though: NVIDIA Responsible for Nearly 30% of Vista Crashes in 2007

Both camps release both good and bad driversets.
 

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At a glance

8 Pro x64i7 3770K 4.6GHz16GB G.Skill Trident X 2666mhzx2 EVGA 780 Ti Superclocked SLI
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Systems by SmartEyeball
OS
8 Pro x64
CPU
i7 3770K 4.6GHz
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z77 WS
Memory
16GB G.Skill Trident X 2666mhz
Graphics Card(s)
x2 EVGA 780 Ti Superclocked SLI
Sound Card
SB X-FI Surround 5.1 PRO USB / ATH-AD900 Headphones
Monitor(s) Displays
x3 Dell U2410 / 58" Samsung
Screen Resolution
5760*1200/ 1920*1200
Hard Drives
2x Intel 520 240GB (RAID 0) * 2x WD Caviar Blacks 2TB (RAID 0) * 2TB WD Caviar Black * Sony Optirac DVD
PSU
Silverstone Strider Evolution 1200W
Case
Thermaltake Level 10 GT Snow Edition
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
Topre Realforce // Ducky Shine MX Black // Filco Ninja TKL
Mouse
Thermaltake Theron (Highly Recommended) + Razer Imperator
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
IE, FF, WaterFox
Other Info
GT Extreme V2 Sim Racing Cockpit + 40" LCD and K/B Mouse stand ▼
Fanatec CSR Elite Wheel + Clubsport V1 Pedals + CSR shifter/7G-H ▼Saitek X52 Pro ▼ TrackIR 5 Pro
Buttkicker v2 Seat Rumbler with Dedicated 5.1 and Sub Woofer attached to frame ▼
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All topics discussing anything besides the benchmarks of the 5970 and SLI 480 are off-topic. So please get back on topic.

Trying to match 2 systems to get real benchmarks is not as easy as lets load the same settings and play. Though I can say this.. regardless of settings the 5970 does out-perform my SLI 480s in Crysis. (16xQ AA at 1920x1200) 45-51 FPS 5970 and 37-48 FPS Sli 480. The main issue we are having is heating. We can only do one series of tests before we both need to let our cards cool off. After our Crysis bout his 5970 was sitting at a toasty 81c and SLI 480s at 87c. And we are both in an A/C room running fans at 100%. As far as benchmarks go MSI Kombuster (DX10/DX11) at 1920x1200 32XQ (Quality) CSAA: sample count = 8 and quality level = 32 my SLI blew the 5970 out of the water. Though we need to do a retest as his card started to suffer from his GPU throttling back to reduce heat. I can say is when it was running at 99% he was getting 97 FPS and SLI 480s at 179 FPS. Though as I said the GPU kept throttling back.. so until I get some definitive results I'll save on posting "real" results.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bitAMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3...G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC...SLI GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Barebones
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz
Motherboard
MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC3 12800)
Graphics Card(s)
SLI GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Toshiba TV 42'' or 27.5'' widescreen monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 60hz
Hard Drives
2x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/
PSU
Antec TPQ-1200 1200W Continuous Power with PowerCache
Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full To
Cooling
1 x 140mm rear fan, 3x 230mm Fans (front, top, side)
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech MX 518
Internet Speed
13 mb/s down 5.5 mb/s up
Other Info
Main system.. other system is slightly different
Sorry about the delay but the 5970 died, cpu got stuck in low power mode, so until we get the new card from XFX (Props to them.. sending out a new card ASAP) the test results will be delayed. Preliminary results though point all DX11 applicated run much more efficient on the Fermi rather then the 5970.. but all directx9 games run smoother and faster on the 5970
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Home Premium 64bitAMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3...G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC...SLI GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Barebones
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD Phenom II X6 1090T Black Edition Thuban 3.2GHz
Motherboard
MSI NF980-G65 AM3 NVIDIA nForce 980a SLI
Memory
G.SKILL Ripjaws Series 8GB (4 x 2GB) DDR3 (PC3 12800)
Graphics Card(s)
SLI GeForce GTX 480 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5
Sound Card
onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Toshiba TV 42'' or 27.5'' widescreen monitor
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 60hz
Hard Drives
2x SAMSUNG Spinpoint F3 HD103SJ 1TB 7200 RPM 32MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/
PSU
Antec TPQ-1200 1200W Continuous Power with PowerCache
Case
COOLER MASTER HAF 932 RC-932-KKN1-GP Black Steel ATX Full To
Cooling
1 x 140mm rear fan, 3x 230mm Fans (front, top, side)
Keyboard
Logitech G15
Mouse
Logitech MX 518
Internet Speed
13 mb/s down 5.5 mb/s up
Other Info
Main system.. other system is slightly different
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