Solved bootmgr problem, system working with win7 DVD

[Yoknee]

Do you have the bootmgr file in C:?

nope.

edit : you recon i should now try copying one from the CD? maybe it will work now?

 

[Duzzy]

C: should have a boot folder and bootmgr file in the root of the drive. The boot folder must contain a file called bcd. These are all hidden and system files which both will need to be shown through folder options.

 

[Kaktussoft]

Do you have the bootmgr file in C:?

nope.

edit : you recon i should now try copying one from the CD? maybe it will work now?

in elevated command prompt:

dir/ah c:\bootmgr
dir/ah c:\boot

Post output

 

[Yoknee]

C: should have a boot folder and bootmgr file in the root of the drive. The boot folder must contain a file called bcd. These are all hidden and system files which both will need to be shown through folder options.

nope hasnt got a boot folder in C for me. Have the hidden folders and files shown.

 

[Kaktussoft]

In recovery environment->command prompt

bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot

Already done? That should solve the problem

ok did that now.
when restarted it pulled out the CD and it didnt work, got a message something that boot dosnt work, then hade to go back into the repair/recovery to get it back up with the CD.
btw. i dont have an other PC here, so this is the only way to get online.

Yes, C drive has a boot folder in the windows folder.

What error message did you get exactly? Do the 2 bootrec commands again please and post the error you get afterwards at boot

bootrec commands succeeded succesfully?

 

[Duzzy]

C: should have a boot folder and bootmgr file in the root of the drive. The boot folder must contain a file called bcd. These are all hidden and system files which both will need to be shown through folder options.

nope hasnt got a boot folder in C for me. Have the hidden folders and files shown.

Have you unchecked "Hide protected operating sytem files" as well?

 

[Yoknee]

Microsoft Windows [versio 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Kaikki oikeudet pidätetään.

C:\Users\xxxxxx>dir/ah c:\bootmgr
Asemalla C ei ole nimeä.
Aseman sarjanumero on xxxxxx

Kansio c:\

27.04.2012 14:29 383 786 bootmgr
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C:\Users\xxxxxxx>

Says C drive aint gota name.

 

[Yoknee]

Microsoft Windows [versio 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Kaikki oikeudet pidätetään.

C:\Users\xxxxxx>dir/ah c:\bootmgr
Asemalla C ei ole nimeä.
Aseman sarjanumero on xxxxxxx

Kansio c:\

27.04.2012 14:29 383 786 bootmgr
1 tiedosto(a) 383 786 tavua
0 kansio(ta) 25 022 394 368 tavua vapaana

C:\Users\xxxxx>

 

[Duzzy]

C: should have a boot folder and bootmgr file in the root of the drive. The boot folder must contain a file called bcd. These are all hidden and system files which both will need to be shown through folder options.

nope hasnt got a boot folder in C for me. Have the hidden folders and files shown.

Have you unchecked "Hide protected operating system files" as well?

With hidden files shown, protected operating system files unhidden do you have a boot folder and bootmgr file in the root of the drive C:?

 

[Yoknee]

Have you unchecked "Hide protected operating sytem files" as well?

no i hadnt, but now i have, thank you. didnt know about that.
and yes, i do have a boot folder and the bootmgr file there.

 

[Yoknee]

In recovery environment->command prompt

bootrec /fixmbr
bootrec /fixboot

Already done? That should solve the problem

ok did that now.
when restarted it pulled out the CD and it didnt work, got a message something that boot dosnt work, then hade to go back into the repair/recovery to get it back up with the CD.
btw. i dont have an other PC here, so this is the only way to get online.

Yes, C drive has a boot folder in the windows folder.

What error message did you get exactly? Do the 2 bootrec commands again please and post the error you get afterwards at boot

bootrec commands succeeded succesfully?

ill do it again and note the exact message. gimme 10-15 mins.

 

[Duzzy]

in a cmd window type

bcdedit /store C:\boot\bcd

and post the results

Edit: I'll check back in about an hour or two, hopefully Kaktussoft has help you by then.

 

[Kaktussoft]

Have you unchecked "Hide protected operating sytem files" as well?

no i hadnt, but now i have, thank you. didnt know about that.
and yes, i do have a boot folder and the bootmgr file there.

I knew already... otherwise no boot.

 

[Kaktussoft]

ok did that now.
when restarted it pulled out the CD and it didnt work, got a message something that boot dosnt work, then hade to go back into the repair/recovery to get it back up with the CD.
btw. i dont have an other PC here, so this is the only way to get online.

Yes, C drive has a boot folder in the windows folder.

What error message did you get exactly? Do the 2 bootrec commands again please and post the error you get afterwards at boot

bootrec commands succeeded succesfully?

ill do it again and note the exact message. gimme 10-15 mins.

those 2 bootrec commands fixes the MBR and bootsector only. Normally by replacing it with something that's already there. There shouldn't be any side effects!

I'll be back in 20 minutes

 

[Yoknee]

ok got message : disc boot failure, insert system disk and press enter.
go´s back to repair but the page hasnt got my C drive there on list (only 1 btw) so have to run the repair to get it back up to fire it back up.

 

[Yoknee]

in a cmd window type

bcdedit /store C:\boot\bcd

and post the results

Edit: I'll check back in about an hour or two, hopefully Kaktussoft has help you by then.

Microsoft Windows [versio 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. Kaikki oikeudet pidätetään.

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit /store c:\boot\bcd

Windowsin käynnistyksen hallintaohjelma
---------------------------------------
tunnus {bootmgr}
device boot
path \bootmgr
description Windows Boot Manager
locale fi-FI
inherit {globalsettings}
default {default}
resumeobject {xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx}
displayorder {default}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windowsin lataaminen
--------------------
tunnus {default}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7
locale fi-FI
inherit {bootloadersettings}
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx}
nx OptIn

C:\Windows\system32>

 

[Kaktussoft]

ok got message : disc boot failure, insert system disk and press enter.
go´s back to repair but the page hasnt got my C drive there on list (only 1 btw) so have to run the repair to get it back up to fire it back up.

So bootrec commands made your dsik unbootable. Normally so now you get "missing bootmgr" again?

What did "startup repair" fix and see as errors? There is an option like "view diagnostic details". click on it and see what errors there are.

Sorry to say... do the bootrec trick again. First only bootrec/fixmbr please
and then startup repair and view the diagnotics details

Are you sure bootrec/fixmbr succeeds succesfully?

 

[Yoknee]

ok got message : disc boot failure, insert system disk and press enter.
go´s back to repair but the page hasnt got my C drive there on list (only 1 btw) so have to run the repair to get it back up to fire it back up.

So bootrec commands made your dsik unbootable. Normally so now you get "missing bootmgr" again?

What did "startup repair" fix and see as errors? There is an option like "view diagnostic details". click on it and see what errors there are.

Sorry to say... do the bootrec trick again. First only bootrec/fixmbr please
and then startup repair and view the diagnotics details

Are you sure bootrec/fixmbr succeeds succesfully?

no, dont get the missing bootmgr with bootrec.
soon as i hit edit, its done within the second. it just says done.
I think it dosnt do it realy.

Ok, ill do it again. and view the diagnotics.

 

[gregrocker]

Mark the Win7 partition Active: Partition - Mark as Active

Boot into Win7 DVD or System Repair Disk to run Startup Repair - Run 3 Separate Times until Win7 boots on its own.

To do this unplug D which can interfere if it has old boot code on it, and should have its data moved off to wipe using Diskpart Clean Command from DVD. DISKPART At PC Startup

 

[Kaktussoft]

ok got message : disc boot failure, insert system disk and press enter.
go´s back to repair but the page hasnt got my C drive there on list (only 1 btw) so have to run the repair to get it back up to fire it back up.

So bootrec commands made your dsik unbootable. Normally so now you get "missing bootmgr" again?

What did "startup repair" fix and see as errors? There is an option like "view diagnostic details". click on it and see what errors there are.

Sorry to say... do the bootrec trick again. First only bootrec/fixmbr please
and then startup repair and view the diagnotics details

Are you sure bootrec/fixmbr succeeds succesfully?

no, dont get the missing bootmgr with bootrec.
soon as i hit edit, its done within the second. it just says done.
I think it dosnt do it realy.

Ok, ill do it again. and view the diagnotics.

in recovery environment command prompt:

dir c:\
sure that's windows partition?

bootsect /nt60 C: /force /mbr
bootsect /nt60 C: /force

actually the same as bootrec/fixmbr and fixboot. But gives you more output!
Sample output
bootsect /nt60 e: /force

Target volumes will be updated with BOOTMGR compatible bootcode.

E: (\\?\Volume{d2602ac3-ded6-11e0-a821-806e6f6e6963})

Forced dismount complete, open handles to this volume are now invalid.

Successfully updated NTFS filesystem bootcode.

Bootcode was successfully updated on all targeted volumes.
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