BSOD, help please

[Tews]

I suggest you dont use the computer until you take care of your CPU... Good luck!

 

[Jonathan_King]

Not that Tom's reputation is demanding this, but I second his advice. Get those temps down ASAP!

 

[kuleee]

well im using computer now, when prime95 isn't running temp of cores are at 55-60°C all the time. 65 max! only with prime95 does temperature get to 100°C cpu is cooking goddammit with that program... i looked down on one of my last posts and i said my cpu temperatures are all the time at that point. that's not correct, they are that high only with prime95 working... my question is: with prime95 stress test and good cooling system, healthy CPU should work fine? in that case while stressing cpu, temeratures should reach which degree? cca?

 

[Jonathan_King]

Even 60 is a bit high for comfort, with a desktop CPU.

We are just hoping the problems go away when your CPU cools down a bit.

 

[CarlTR6]

Hi kulee. No insults; we have all been noobs and made mistakes. You would not believe some of the stupid things I have done.

Tom's and Jonathan's advice is spot on. I would not run my machine until I had gotten thermal paste and taken care of the CPU. Please keep us posted.

 

[kuleee]

hi

i bought the paste and apply it. first, i cleaned cpu and cooler of old paste and then applied new one. now when i start computer i expected temperatures to fall down a bit, but they didn't. they are still at cca 60°C all the time. but i started that video card stress test and im worried... here is the screen shot

http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/6729/30931293.jpg

test is still working, average GPU temperature is 98°C, processors are at 88°C (first core) and 90°C (second core)... should i stop the test? btw i don't see any anomalies or artifacts on screen during the test

 

[kuleee]

well i needed to stop after 24min of stress testing the GPU, cause of my CPU temps got to 99°C and i decided to shut down test! any new suggestions? is my power supply to weak?

 

[Jonathan_King]

Are you using any case fans, or just the PSU fan?

I advice upgrading your PSU, really. Not only do PSUs fail over time, but 400W to start out with is pretty low.

Check out this page: eXtreme Power Supply Calculator

See what it recommends. In the meantime, I'll contact some experts and see what PSU they recommend for you.

 

[kuleee]

when i put all my spec's into that, it calculates that i need 230W (or something), not even near 400W. btw i reinstalled windows... AGAIN. but now into win7 ultimate 64bit. of course 2 bsods in 2 hours, so take a look. its obvious that processors are NOT overheating, cause temperatures before bsod were below 50°C (i think at 47°C)...

 

[kuleee]

and btw im not using any special fans in my computer at all. all fans inside are stock fans, including psu fan (gpu and cpu too are stock fans)

 

[Jonathan_King]

Hello kulee,

I have talked with an expert on PSUs, and he feels your PSU is insufficient for your needs. Furthermore, a lower-end PSU can definitely cause problems.

He suggests upgrading to about 600W, pick one from this list: Power Supply Information and Selection - Tech Support Forum

While you're purchasing, you may want to throw in a cheap case fan. I don't know what case you have, so make sure you know the size of fan you need. For example, I have 4x120mm and 1x140mm fan bays on my tower.

It should cost you about $10: Newegg.com - Scythe SY1225SL12LM-P 120mm Case Fan

Even if this doesn't work, you'll still decrease temps, leading to longer hard drive life.

 

[kuleee]

i think i will try windows xp. if my problems are hardware related, then bsod's will happen no matter which OS is in system?
and btw, my core temperatures have decreased for 10 degrees, and are now at approximately 47-50°C at all times

 

[Jonathan_King]

Looks like that thermal paste is doing its job.

About XP, that is probably the case. Can't say for sure, but I suspect if it's hardware, it will show up in XP as well.

 

[CarlTR6]

Kuleee, that is good news about the temps. Excellent. You did well. Do let us know if you go back to XP and how it works for you.

 

[kuleee]

ok guys, xp is running fine for now, not a single error for 12 hours. it seems that win7 is makin' troubles... i will make dual boot on another partition with win7 in 2 or 3 days, first i want to make sure that computer is able to work just fine for 48 hours in one piece. i will keep you informed!

 

[CarlTR6]

Thanks for reporting back. What this tells you is that something is not compatible with Win 7 - hardware or software.

 

[kuleee]

i didn't make any change to my computer since may 2008 (when i bought it) till july when i changed cpu's. so it could be only cpu. could it be that with stronger psu computer will again work normaly in win7? cause till july i didn't have any problems with computer and win7 for 2 years. thnx in advance

 

[Jonathan_King]

Do you have access to any other PSUs to test with?

Do you have Coretemp installed? If so, please remove it.

I wonder if the problem is caused by an incompatible motherboard. See this page: ASRock > Products > 4Core1333-FullHD

I notice it does not list Windows 7 as a compatible OS.

Might you have a version of Vista to stick on it to test? You don't need a product key yet; if a friend will lend you a Vista DVD, you can install it, and use it for 30 days without activation.

That should be plenty long enough to test with.

 

[kuleee]

well i always hated this asrock board, i don't have drivers to download from their site for my motherboard using win7. i do not have any other psu to test with unfortunately too. but i can install vista today instead of win7 (dual boot). any reason why vista and not win7? i was using vista for one year: from may 2008 when i bought new computer, till may 2009 when i installed that test version of win7. so you think that if windows vista works fine, then its definitely something wrong with win7 and my hardware/software compatibility? and probably with motherboard...

 

[kuleee]

ok, vista have bsod's too! this definitely wasn't happening before too me! your suggestions please! new motherboard? i was thinking about this one
GA-G41M-ES2H (rev. 1.3) - GIGABYTE

in a few days i hope i will get the money and buy it!