I would prefer to avoid a re install but im no fool i have known for some time that it has been on the cards. I would like to regain control of the computer one last time but i expect this to be the last hara for this install of windows. Yes you were right about the viruses according to avg before it stopped it found countless. if there is no solution by monday night here i will most like back as much as possible with Ubuntu and then re install. Yes this was my first tango with a rootkit, i had never in-counted one before so my early countermeasures were completely ineffectual. I had believed i had gotten the last laugh but perhaps it was premature. At the very least this last week has taught me much about computers in general.