Building a gaming rig! Need assistance

[BarTmaN]

Yes I understand that. I am probably going to stick with the card I chose, I just want to look at the other one suggested too.

I actually have a lot of cable ties already so that's a plus! Hoping for a super clean case

 

[DarkXeno]

Yes I understand that. I am probably going to stick with the card I chose, I just want to look at the other one suggested too.

I actually have a lot of cable ties already so that's a plus! Hoping for a super clean case

A super clean case takes time and planning. On my new build it took me an hour and half just to install everything because i wanted it clean and neat.

 

[AstaLaVista]

Power Rig for sure, a bit to much for my taste but powerful nonetheless. Enjoy and have lots of fun building it. The most important part here is... Take your time.

 

[ezeht]

It might be rather silly if looking at nvidia cards not to pick a sparkle or evga card they have lifetime warranties. The vid cards with all the cool looking coolers give lil or no more real world performance and they do add the extra heat back into your case. I think it is not very good sense to buy a brand just for its name and no life time warranty.. Not sure if you are into over clocking- but evga's warranty also covers over clocking. That is both evga mobos and vid cards are covered if over clocking.

When looking at mobos do not over look msi- price and quality and features and bench marks or over clocking msi is one of the best. I am not saying it because I have a msi mobo it is just the facts. Msi can easy edge out gigabyte and nip at the heels of asus if not better asus and cost less and have more features and longer warranty. Research research research.

As for thermal paste- do your research- folks must not read much- but silver 5 can cause you to ruin your rig and or cpu or gpu or something else on your mobo- ac silver 5 conducts electrical currents and has a life of about 2 years and then become brittle and has a 200 hour cure time. AC MX2 or 3 has a 8 year life no cure time and does not conduct electrical current and cools better by up to 6f or so. AC5 can ruin your day if you get sloppy with it- It is just the facts.

Also- this is a better psu and cost way less it has a single +12v rail and 52amps and is hard wired. Do your research- 1 sigle rail and hard wired are better than multi rails and modular wired psu's.. As a fact- many folks buy the modular units thinking they will or can use less wires. They normally do not use less wires and because the units are multi rails they have to use more wires to try and balance out the load over the rails. In a word You are guessing how much load is on each rail. Few if any modular pus's come with a detailed schematic that has wires numbered and which rails they are connected to to help you balance out the load. You do not have this dance with a solid rail psu- and the hard wired are more efficient.

1 more thing I like about the tx 650-750 they only need 10 wall socket amps to run them. Much over a 750 watt psu you need 15 amps or more at the wall socket to run it..

Corsair tx650- I would go tx750 my self and still cost way less than the other you are looking at.. The tx750 is surely a better psu and does cost less.. The tx750 has a nice 140mm fan and 60 amps and 4x 2+6 pin pcie connectors- less noise and stays cool. And both the corsairs have a 5 year warranty.>

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006

Do as you like it is your rig- I hope you enjoy it.. Looks like it will be a nice rig.

 

[Wishmaster]

In regards to Thermal Paste, I like MX-2 the best.

I used to use AS, but had switched to MX-2 a couple years ago and never looked back.

As far as performance, they seem about the same to me. But I honestly didnt test enough to make a accurate call in this regard.
But I find MX-2 is far easier to work with, which is why I prefer it.
Not that theres anything wrong with AS.

This, as with everything, is a matter of personal prefrence.

 

[BarTmaN]

Okay thank you all! I'm going to order everything tomorrow (actually changed my PSU to the one stated above, my buddy actually recommended that one over the one I picked too).

I want to thank you guys again, for helping me build this rig!

I will update the thread when I get everything

 

[ezeht]

Congrats and good luck.

The p67's came out like 2 weeks after I built this my new rig. I still done good tho and being the first p67's was messed up- the new mobos are fixed tho or best I understand. Cost is about the same- but the p55 and p67's are great budget gamers- both over clock well but the p67's are real lil monsters. Both the p55 and p67's smoke anything amd- well up to its 6 core blacks any way- Smoke them in everything over clocked or not other than a few programs that can use over 4 cores or the one game dirt2..

Your rig should be smoking- and is no real over kill if you are or have gaming in mind. Over kill is for general office type use and anything much over a 8 year old p3. Most any old system can do office stuff or edit or convert video- might take longer but can be done even on a 400 or 450 mz p3 cpu even a mac. But they are not gaming rigs.. And ya- your version of windows dictates what hardware you might be able to use.

Have fun with your build- gaming and life.. See ya..

 

[Richardc269]

For NVidia video cards, I'd recommend the GTS250 or higher. It will play almost any game flawlessly (except newer games these days). I don't really play the newer games that come out, just the older games. I'm sure you'll want some better than the GTS250 though.

 

[ezeht]

On the last page he is thinking nv gtx 570- just id go sparkle or evga- great card tho- I wish I had money to buy one- then my pc would be complete- or after I over clock my cpu to over 4 gigs anyway..

If thinking evga- read well the specs- some evga's do not have life time- all sparkles have life time..

 

[sygnus21]

Okay thank you all! I'm going to order everything tomorrow (actually changed my PSU to the one stated above, my buddy actually recommended that one over the one I picked too).

I want to thank you guys again, for helping me build this rig!

I will update the thread when I get everything

Good luck and enjoy

 

[ezeht]

That corsair memory should be fine but these stix might be a lil better.. Do not let pretty heat sinks fool ya- these are great ic's .. Also these crucails are of the few stix that can run t1. Many will argue but every lil bit helps and faster is faster be it cl timings or t1 or t2 timings.

The thing is intel and amd- AMD can not do t1 timings but intel can. Instead of making 2 types of memory and the fact that intel can use t2 memory why make both kinds. Most all corsairs and most other memory are t2- and the crucails over clock well and normally with no needed voltage increase. In fact many mem is t1 timings but sold as t2 to avoid confusion- and t1 mem can be ran at t2.. I can be confused its been awhile since I read on such things- maybe most is t1 but sold as t2. It surely has to be checked on amd rigs..

Read on mobo sites- seems folks have more probs using ripjaws- just something to think about.. Folks have better luck with the corsairs or crucails on intel mobos or newer mobos any way.

As a fact if you have picked out the mobo you care to use- post it and the rest of your specs [other stuff you are thinking about buying] in proper area at the mobos home site and ask how folks feel about compatibility. They will tell ya fast what is best or what others are having most trouble with..

Cost less and as good or better than the corsairs.. The corsairs you are looking at are pc1600- these are pc1333- which the 1600 is considered as over clocked- your mobo might act funny until you make some manual changes- but intel is not as funny about memory as amd- or the p55 or p67's any way so. If going to over clock you might drop that 1600 to 1333 anyway. Either way you should be good with either the corsairs or these crucails.. Also comments are saying specs at the egg say 1.5v for the corsairs but the sticker on the mem says 1.65v and is same postings on other sites- Your mobo might act nuts until you make some manual changes- I think the p67 defaults are 1333 and 1.5v same as the p55's..>

Newegg.com - Crucial 4GB (2 x 2GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT25664BA1339

With the extra money you will save on a psu- you can step up to 8 gigs memory.. Your mobo bios should see it right away with no adjustments.>

Newegg.com - Crucial 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1333 (PC3 10600) Desktop Memory Model CT2KIT51264BA1339

 

[ezeht]

Stalker soc calls- played justcause2 and mafia2 all day night yesterday.

Stalker and patch 10004 is running great for me- all maxed out other than in game aa- which is not real aa anyway- I can force aa in my vid card cp- but puts a large hit on my performance. Running all other maxed I get 75 to 86fps and no lower than 50 when recording- pretty sweet.

Soon I will install cop again and just run it in dx9- being my old vid card has trouble with the game and dx10. I should be able to max out cop fine in dx9 mode. Higher settings than xp and my older system anyway..

See ya.

 

[RitualJman]

I'm an AMD guy but that's just me. Here's what I would build if I didn't already have my rig.

AMD Phenom II x4 965BE ($160)
8 GB memory (not sure here as the OCZ memory that I have and love isn't made anymore)
Gigabyte GA-870A-UD3 ($105)
Antec TP-750 ($130)
CoolerMaster HAF-932 Advanced ($160)
CoolerMaster Hyper 212+ ($35)
WD1001FALS, 1 TB WD Black ($90)
Win 7 HP 64-bit OEM ($100)
XFX HD-687A-ZNFC, Radeon 6870 ($225)

Total (not including memory) is just over $1000. All prices are USD priced from Newegg. With my gaming system I could play MW2 while it ran a system backup or virus scan and had little lag or performance hit, and that was before I upgraded to 8 GB memory and got the correct memory for my system (originally had OCZ Platinum, OCZ recommends the Black Edition for the AMD BE CPU, replaced and it resolved issues I was having).

I'm not certain on the video card, I'm an nVidia guy but I know guys playing Black Ops on the 5770.
For the HDD, I wouldn't go super crazy on SSD just yet, I'm running a WD Black 1 TB (same as the one I spec'd out) and am consistently one of the first to load into maps on Black Ops.
My 955 BE with GTX470 gets 70-100 FPS in Black Ops, I really don't see a HUGE need for more than a quad-core for gaming.
You may not HAVE to get the Hyper 212+ (aftermarket CPU cooler) but with those it's best to get it and install it when you build rather than decide later that you need/want it and have to take the system apart to install it.

I would say go with with a small SSD to run the OS and have the 1TB drive for storage you will get better performance and I am also looking at doing the same thing and waiting a little bit for the prices to drop.

 

[BarTmaN]

I actually didnt order it yet, but as I am going to shortly, I just have a quick question. Will this fit in a mid case, of should I just stay with the full that I have? Here is my build without my updated PSU though (quoted from a couple pages back incase you guys didn't see it).

CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212+
Motherboard: ASUS P8P67 Pro
RAM: 8GB Corsair Vengeance DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600
GPU: EVGA GeForce GTX 570 Superclocked
SSD: OCZ Vertex Agility 2 100GB
HDD: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB
Case: Antec 1200 V3 ATX Full Tower
PSU: Antec TruePower 750W Continous Power
CD/DVD Burner: Samsung

 

[ignatzatsonic]

That will all fit in a mid-tower easily. Full towers are usually used for many hard drives, but if you won't be moving the case around much it doesn't really matter.

 

[BarTmaN]

Alright cool. I'm gunna get the Antec 900 mid then since it's about $60 cheaper.

 

[ezeht]

That case should be fine- you may have probs and depends on the hdd cage. some turn into the case some to the side panel- if turned to the side panel you might have more probs- I think them 570's are 10.5" long.

If the gage is turned in you can normally just put your hdd out of the way. You might not think so but the larger the case is the more you will like it you have more room inside to work with.

Personally If I had to buy another case I would get one of these lain li's- I built near same system for my bud and used this case. I put the psu in the top and the fan in the bottom as a intake fan and filtered it etc. Its huge and sweet to work in. I only wish it had a side flow fan on the panel- But Id mod the side panel if my case- you can buy them from say frozencpu.com but is near 100 bucks just for the panel..

The LIAN LI PC-A70F Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case..>

Newegg.com - LIAN LI PC-A70F Black Aluminum ATX Full Tower Computer Case

You can almost stand inside this sweet case- and is future proof and will take the larger mobos and smaller server mobos too- E-ATX / ATX / M-ATX. Also the io plate add on card hold down is awesome on this case and very easy to use- the top 2 5.25 drive hold down is sweet to but still need to add a screw to back side or opt drives might vibrate etc. it only has the quick release on 1 side and not the other- I did not understand that but is a sweet case all the same..>



My Antec p160w case- I think I can barely fit a 10.5" vid card and because of the side turned hdd cage.. Remember if in the future you might want a ati vid card some of them are 11 and 12" maybe longer and smaller cases would give ya a fit and you might have to buy another at that time. You can nip it in the bud and future proof your self by buying a larger case from the start..>

 

[BarTmaN]

Thanks for the advice.

Just ordered it! Changed a couple things up. So stoked, can't wait to get it! I will update when I get everything and get it up and running

 

[ezeht]

Cool- good luck enjoy your new rig and some great gaming..

 

[Wishmaster]

Thanks for the advice.

Just ordered it! Changed a couple things up. So stoked, can't wait to get it! I will update when I get everything and get it up and running

Look forward to seeing it