Clean Reinstall - Factory OEM Windows 7

Clean Reinstall - Windows 7

How to Clean Reinstall Windows 7

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A clean reinstall is often better than getting a new computer since most PC's come larded with sponsors' bloatware and duplicate utilities that interfere with much better versions built into Windows 7. For this reason most tech enthusiasts clean reinstall using the Product Key on the COA sticker affixed to machine. This guide compiles everything that works best in tens of thousands of installs we've directly helped with here.

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Please read over all steps to be sure you understand them before beginning. Ask back any questions in the Comments section below. For example, it is important enough to understand exactly how drivers are handled in the first mostly driver-complete OS that these steps are printed in red.

To save pages of space I provide blue links to illustrated tutorials instead of illustrating them in-line. You can open these in a new tab using your middle mouse button (scroll wheel) or from the right-click context menu.

Contents




Step 1

Find the right Windows 7 .iso



Microsoft has taken down the Digital River ISO download servers and are only providing ISO's to retail customers. This leaves those who bought a PC with Win7 at the mercy of OEM Tech Support who except for Dell rarely will provide clean Reinstallation media, to borrow a retail copy, or search for a torrent download which can be risky if not checked for add-ins.

If you have a retail copy of Windows 7, then you could try to download an ISO directly from Microsoft at the link below. The link is reported to only work in Internet Explorer.

:ar: Microsoft Software Recovery

You can borrow a friend's disk to reinstall, even extract the ISO image file using ImgBurn and then burn a new DVD using ImgBurn at 4x speed, write ISO to 4gb+ flash stick using UltraISO Software To Create Bootable USB Flash Drive, or for UEFI installs use Option One of UEFI Bootable USB Flash Drive - Create in Windows

If you have any doubt about the integrity of the ISO file or are forced to download the ISO from a torrent you can compare the SHA1 signature available freely on the MSDN Downloads page "Details" links, using a checker like HashTab which adds a HASH calculator to the ISO file Properties tabs. Having these sums match assures ISO integrity and that nothing was added to the file.

If your licensed version is unavailable you can unlock all versions in any ISO by running ei.cfg removal tool or by deleting ei.cfg file from Sources folder on bootable flash stick. Check the HASH first before unlocking the ISO.

I would use 64-bit for 4gb or more RAM, 32-bit (x86) for 3gb or less RAM.

You can slipstream the latest Updates into the installer ISO to save at least an hour's Updating after install using Update 7 installation media. However it may take an hour to do this so consider how much you want this.

Burn ISO to DVD or to USB flash stick (minimum size of 4GB required) using Windows 7 USB-DVD Download Tool which is sometimes fussy about the ISO, or alternatively to DVD using ImgBurn at 4x speed, to flash stick using UltraISO Software To Create Bootable USB Flash Drive.

For UEFI installs format flash stick with Option One of UEFI Bootable USB Flash Drive - Create in Windows making sure the settings shown in picture don't jump around after adding the ISO. You have a UEFI install if Disk Management shows an EFI System partition on the hard drive, the BIOS shows UEFI settings and it's Boot menu offers to boot the DVD or a UEFI-formatted flash stick as an EFI device.




Step 2

Backup your user data



If your files are not organized now is the time to sort them into the User folders for your named User account. ▶ Windows 7 - How to Drag and Drop to Move a Folder - YouTube

For all browsers other than IE which stores Favorites in the User folder of that name, export your bookmarks to Documents now. Import or export bookmarks - Chrome Help
Export Firefox bookmarks to an HTML file to back up or transfer bookmarks | Firefox Help

If your email is stored on computer, Google how to back up specific mail and account settings to get solutions like How do I import and export email, contacts, and calendars with Windows Live Mail? - Microsoft Windows Help.

Backup Quickbooks 2010+ Company files from where you keep them, the default location User/Public/Documents, or google your version's file location, or run a QB backup to Documents before backing them up.

De-authorize I-Tunes. You can back up your Sticky Notes to keep the one currently on your desktop following Sticky Notes - Backup and Restore.

Then back up your files externally by dragging or copying your named User account or active User folders to another hard drive, external drive, flash stick or disk. ▶ Copying files to an external drive - YouTube.

An alternative is to upload files to the cloud using Microsoft OneDrive which offers 15gb free storage for each Outlook/Live ID. Install and use the OneDrive app to drag User folders into OneDrive folder, monitor uploading progress by clicking Cloud icon in System Tray on bottom right end of taskbar. Once files are all uploaded, rightclick the Cloud Icon again to choose Settings and Unlink so that any accidental file deletions are not deleted in the Cloud. Step 7 will pick up with reinstalling OneDrive to recover your files. Remember that any accidental deletions always end up in OneDrive's as well as your PC's Recycle Bin.

For unbootable Windows copy data to another HD or USB device using the Windows 7 disk to Copy & Paste in Windows Recovery Console, free Paragon rescue disk, or a Linux boot disk.

You can Run and print an audit of hardware and software including installed Product Keys using Belarc Advisor. This audit assures you won't lose any paid software keys like Office. Note that the Windows 7 Product Key found by Belarc or another key finder will be an SLP batch key used at factory, if it has not yet been activated from COA sticker Key used for a Clean Reinstall. This SLP batch key cannot be used for reinstall. Methods for backing up Factory SLP Activation if the COA Product Key is not readable are not supported here but can be found on the web.

For unbootable Windows, you can read the installed Product Key and any Office key you don't have backed up using ProduKey - Recover lost product key (CD-Key) of Windows/MS-Office/SQL Server




Step 3

Save essential system data



If you have a Recovery partition it may not run after clean reinstall. You may want to make your Recovery Disks so you have a path back to factory condition, following the steps given in your PC's setup literature or in the Manual located on the Support Downloads webpage for your model computer. As an alternative to Recovery Disks you can save a Windows 7 Backup Image or more flexible Macrium Image of the entire HD.

You can wait until afterward to see if Recovery or (Diagnostics) Tools partitions will run from boot to decide if you want to delete those partitions and recover the space into C or elsewhere (using Step 3 here). This information may be provided for your brand PC in the Special Notes at the end of this tutorial.

Write down the Product Key from COA sticker located on back or side of PC tower, bottom or under battery of notebook. Make sure you get the characters correct as this is a main cause of activation failure. You can input or Skip the key during install then afterwards activate at Control Panel>System, which may require a quick robocall. But put the key in a safe place so you have it for the life of the PC, which may outlast the sticker's readability.

The COA sticker looks like this:

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Step 4

Manage installed programs



Gather your program installers. For those lacking disks, you may find them on the program's Support Downloads webpage. Favorite pre-installed apps may be found on the Downloads webpage for your model computer or manufacturer-provided Apps Disk. Others may be found by googling. Some pre-installed apps may not be available for clean reinstall - more about this for your brand PC in the Special Notes at end.

You can download clean, safe copies of your licensed Office version to burn to disk (.iso) or run .exe from Microsoft which can be activated with the Product Key you originally bought with it or audited using Belarc from Step 2 above. A good free compatible alternative to Office is OpenOffice - The Free and Open Productivity Suite.

Many of the favorite apps needed and desired for reinstall are available in the terrific app Ninite - Install or Update Multiple Apps at Once. This makes a custom installer you can save which keeps all app installers updated within.

Just in case, save in advance your Wireless or Ethernet LAN (wired) driver in your backup so if it isn't provided during install you can install it to get online quickly to install all Important and Optional Windows Updates - which will also provide most drivers. Your network LAN driver can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for your model PC. The exact make/model will be listed in your Device Manager under Network Adapters.




Step 5

Install the Windows 7 .iso



Unplug all other HD's and peripherals except ethernet cable to increase chances of it starting up connected after install. If not prompted for wireless key during install it's likely you'll need to install the wireless driver immediately after getting to the desktop, or if ethernet LAN is working wait for wireless driver to come in via Windows Update.

Boot the Windows 7 installer, choose Custom Install, then at the Drive Selection screen access the Drive Options (Advanced) to Delete all partitions not needed, repartition and format as shown in Steps 7 and 8 of Clean Install Windows 7 which illustrated steps will guide you through actual install.

Whether to use more than one partition depends largely if you want your data in the OS partition, or have it linked from another partition to make C partition backup image smaller - this way if Windows 7 becomes irreparable you can re-image the OS/Programs to C and the data will be current and waiting safely in its own partition.

If you don't want to keep any partitions but also don't have a new partition scheme in mind, then use the Drive Options to Delete all partitions, click Next to let the installer create and format your installation partition for you. Ignore the small boot partition which is created, although it must be kept along with the C image and never issued a letter.

Due to lack of SP2 Win7 has no USB3 drivers so use a USB2 port for flash install and make sure USB3 controller is disabled in BIOS setup. If you're prompted for drivers for any other reason during install it almost always means a bad installer, so make sure ISO download completed and create another one.

If you have an UEFI BIOS, or receive an error that Win7 cannot be installed to disk because of its formatting, and cannot overcome the error by deleting all partitions, then you may need to follow the special steps to Install Windows 7 with UEFI (Unified Extensible Firmware Interface) including if necessary to Create UEFI Bootable USB Flash Drive, or may Bypass UEFI to Install WIn7. Remember to boot installer as UEFI Device. We can help troubleshoot UEFI problems as we do here every day.

Other Steps here to Troubleshoot Windows 7 Installation Failures - Windows 7 Help Forums




Step 6

Get online to run all Windows Updates



Immediately after install check bottom right System Tray network icon to connect to your network if necessary. If only a TV icon with a red slash appears then open and extract network LAN driver, right click on Setup to Run as Administrator, install LAN driver watching System tray icon to choose network if required. Why can't I connect to a network? - Windows Help

Immediately after getting online install your AV. I suggest using a lightweight free Antivirus like Microsoft Security Essentials or the more aggressive Panda Cloud which perform well with the Windows 7 Firewall. Bloated AV's cause problems with Win7; if you're infected while using MSE I suggest adding inexpensive Malwarebytes Real Time Protection which also work together well.

Next enable hardware driver auto-updating, open Windows Update to Check for Updates, select all Important and Optional Updates (except Bing, unless you prefer it) to install. After requested reboots, go back again to Check for Updates until there are no more. These Updates deliver drivers, critical system, hardware and security patches. I would accept them all to be safest, keep Updates set to Automatic and regularly check for Optional to install because often needed Updates are queued there.

If Updates stall or balk check your Start menu's Shutdown button for a "!" signaling there are Updates queued there for install at Shutdown. Perform a Shutdown to install them and then keep an eye on the Shutdown button if further rounds of Updates stall to clear them there first before proceeding to again Check for Updates. Most Update jams can be resolved by several reboots - real problems are one in a million.

Any drivers still missing in Device Manager after all Updates are installed can be found on the Support Downloads webpage for the model PC or device, along with other OEM software which you can wait to see if you need.

I would not replace any drivers given by the installer or Windows Update unless performance problems point to that specific driver. We can help you troubleshoot these issues. If you install a driver and it performs badly you can Roll Back on its Driver tab in Device Manager.

"Standard VGA" Display driver is a placeholder driver which only should be used when no other possible driver will install as it will not allow Sleep or Hibernate. So if Updates don't provide a better driver, import it from the PC model's Support Downloads webpage - if necessary even Vista, or XP driver installed in Compatibility Mode. If this fails check the device maker's Support Downloads webpage to let it scan for the needed download to install.

Unknown Devices are often card reader drivers posted on the model's Support Downloads webpage along with other drivers which may be revealed by a function still missing on the PC such as laptop function keys or keyboard lighting, or can be traced using Device Manager - Finding Unknown Devices - Windows 7 Help Forums

Co-processor, SM Bus controller, USB and Storage controllers are often elements of the chipset. If no chipset is posted on your model's Downloads page, use the Intel Drive Update Utility or AMD Auto-Detect to find your chipset, or ask in our Drivers forum.

You can also trace any missing driver using
Hardware Identification. It's often faster to google the Driver Detail's Hardware ID than to look it up.

I would not re-import any of the OEM software until you run for awhile to know for sure you need it. There may be patches on the PC's Support Downloads webpage needed to improve performance so browse them to be aware what's available as you test performance to decide if they're needed. But keep in mind re-installing OEM bloatware besides that which is absolutely needed for good performance or a specific function you need defeats the purpose of a Clean Reinstall.




Step 7

Reinstall your programs



Install programs slowly over time to gauge performance changes after each. You can roll back bad effects of a Program install or Update(s) by uninstalling it or using System Restore.

Install your preferred Reader and Flash Player declining the Optional offer. I no longer recommend installing Java unless you know you need it or are prompted to install it to run a program, as it is an infection path.

Don't let programs write themselves into msconfig>Startup as they slow startup, become freeloaders on your RAM/CPU, can spy on you and cause conflicts. No video, sound or other driver software needs to start with Windows 7 unless you know you need special settings on these.

As illustrated in Startup Programs - Change uncheck everything except AV, gadgets (aka "Sidebar"), Sync program, and Flash player updater (needed for safety and performance) in msconfig>Startup.

Then after reboot do the same in msconfig>Services after checking the box to "Hide All MS Services."

Check back with both lists periodically to see if anything writes itself back in, turn it off in its Program Preferences.

If you have any questions about a listing, Google it to learn what it does or ask us.

However I would not install any Google programs which are relentless spyware. Only use the stable Google search box in your browser and don't stay signed into any Google web apps.

Avoid spyware tracking cookies placing annoying interest ads by periodically Opting Out of Network Advertising. This will greatly relieve the banner ads which track your shopping habits and web searches.

The most important thing you can do to avoid spyware creeping in is to watch your program installs like a hawk at every step, because freeware authors have found ingenious ways to sneak in spyware with tricky check box choices - even in the License Agreement. Always do a Custom install and only allow the features you know you want, check later to remove anything extra in Control Panel>Programs and by running a full Malwarebytes and SuperAntiSpyware scan (Step 12) which roots them out as deep as they can go.

Keep an eye also on your Browser Add-Ons or Extensions to only allow the ones you know you want or are required to make a page display correctly, including Flash, Shockwave, WMP or Quicktime plug-in, a reader, Silverlight. Also under Add-Ons monitor Search services to remove any but Google in the stable browser search box, tick the box to disallow any others to replace it. Strange search service are often spyware.

If you're prone to infection add the inexpensive paid real-time protection for Malwarebytes to run alongside a lightweight recommended AV, otherwise use its excellent free scanner as needed.




Step 8

Recover your user files



Before copying your files into the new install, now would be a good time to download, install (declining trial), update and run a scan on them with Malwarebytes to make sure no infection is being re-imported.

If you backed up to OneDrive, reinstall the OneDrive App, wait for files to download from OneDrive into the OneDrive folder completely, then copy them into User folders, or move the User folders of the new Install into the OneDrive folder to Sync, Backup and Store your Files to the Cloud with OneDrive.

To copy your files into the new install, open the storage folder, open each User folder (Documents, Pictures, etc.). Next from the Organize tab choose Select All, drag the group to the corresponding folder on Explorer bar at left. Wait until the bar stops unfolding and hypertext confirms the precise copy location before releasing the left click.
If this method makes you nervous, right click on the Select All file group to Copy, then open the corresponding target user folder, in an empty space right click to Paste.
Do not copy hidden AppData folders from User Accounts as these are a corruption path- another reason not to use file transfer apps which can also lose files.

If you're using a separate data partition copy your User folders to it, then you can either move the new install's active User folders location to there following User Folders - Change Default Location, or right click each to link it to the related Library - Include a Folder then set it as default for that Library - Set Save Folder - Windows 7 Help Forums. Keep the empty C User folder in each library so you can easily see if something lands there and simply drag it to the linked User folder. If you move the User folders use another Backup Imaging app like Macrium Imaging as the built-in one will want to include the data drive which now holds System files.

A simple free method is here to Sync, Backup and Store your Files to the Cloud with Onedrive - Windows 7 Help Forums that shows how to move your User folders into OneDrive folder on C or data partition for instant backup to the cloud and simultaneous synching across all of your devices using this method.

The User Favorites folder will populate IE Bookmarks. Import another browser's Bookmarks from HTML file backed up previously. Copy Quickbooks and other Program data into it's default folder location.




Step 9

Activate the OS



Activation at Control Panel>System may in rare cases require a robocall to MS the first time to record your hardware signature in their servers. It will always work as long as you install the correct version and input the key accurately which is a frequent stumbling block - taking a well-lighted phone pic of COA sticker key to enlarge may help.




Step 10

Housekeeping



You can easily configure and share files between PC's on the same network using http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/43961-homegroup-create.html.

On my installs users are most impressed by the spectacular beauty of the collected national editions' 120 Windows 7 Backgrounds slideshow. You can download the folder from http://1drv.ms/1shAWUu. Type Personalize in Start search box, choose Windows 7 Aero Theme, from Slide Show link Browse to Pictures Location, Select folder, Select All as a 30 minute random slideshow, Save Changes.

With gadgets no longer being supported due to supposed risk of infection we've never seen, what works better now for millions who love them is to install v.12 or higher of 8GadgetPack which supports Windows 7. It works the same except you'll need to hide the Sidebar. The MSN weather gadget similar to Win7's popular weather gadget can be easily installed to open from the same gadget pack.

When finished, clean and order the HD perfectly using state-of-the-art free CCleaner "Run Cleaner" button and Registry tab.

Type "Defrag" into Start Search box to run a Windows defrag and set its schedule to your liking. Never defrag an SSD!

Periodically run the above as well as a full scan with free Malwarebytes and SUPERAntiSpyware on-demand scanners, declining the trial unless you're prone to infection - in which case purchasing MBAM Real Time protection at $29 for life almost always resolves this, when run in tandem with your AV. Always check that you are running the latest version of the scanner and it is fully updated.

Take advantage of the perfected Windows 7 Power Options. Most users only need the Balanced Plan, ideally to Sleep at 30, Hibernate at 45-90, with Hybrid Sleep enabled. Many users prefer Hibernate to Shut Down as it keeps in place your open work and starts up much faster while still powering down. Note that timing out to Sleep without a Hibernate safety net will wear your RAM indefinitely until you come back (vacation? :eek:).
Sleep and hibernation: frequently asked questions
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/23836-hibernate-shortcut-create.html

After reinstall I always scan the logs to resolve repeat errors, check System Resources, search for Problem solutions, Generate a System Health Report - as shown in these basic Troubleshooting Steps for Windows 7 to bookmark.




Step 11

Make your first system image



Finally, save a Windows 7 Backup image to external or another internal HD so you never have to reinstall again - just do a System Image Recovery to the HD or it's replacement from booted DVD/Repair CD and the stored image.

I would save at least one baseline image after reinstall to replace needing to do a reinstall in the future. However some users like to have a more current image to choose from in which case I'd save a separate one as often as you want. Win7 imaging will save past images as long as there is enough room on the storage drive for a new image.

Note that built-in Win7 backup imaging is limited to restoring the OS to the exact same partition structure, so if you want a more flexible app try our favorite free Macrium Imaging - Windows 7 Help Forums. Once you load the image and target hard drive, use the links under each existing partition to delete those you're replacing, then just drag your desired partitions to the target drive, note the new link created just below each to use sliders to adjust its size, then click Next using the default settings. :geek:





Step 12

Notes for specific PC makes



Henceforth if required to contact your OEM Tech Support do not tell them you Clean Reinstalled but troubleshoot as if you have the factory install. Otherwise they may refuse to support Clean Reinstall, but cannot void Hardware warranty. If you must ship the unit back for repair under Hardware warranty save a Windows 7 backup image and then run Factory Recovery beforehand.

Special notes for HP owners:

On newer models HP System Recovery may offer a Minimized OS Recovery option. This retains only the OS, Recovery Manager, HP Support Asst, HP Wireless LAN, drivers and activation, and is as close to a clean reinstall as you can get without doing one yourself. I would uninstall HP Wireless to use Win7's superior wireless manager.

If you format and reinstall only to C leaving all other partitions intact, F11 Recovery key should still work later if you need it. The helpful hardware diagnostics also listed on the ESC or F9 boot menu may also run after reinstall, so if they will run now from boot, I would save the small HP Tools partition to see if they remain bootable after install.

Problems with volume control lighting and HP Quick Launch buttons have been dealt with here and here.

Specific HP software which might be worth reimporting is discussed in HP Bloatware, or useful system utilities?

Some HP Recovery disks can have their files extracted to access favorite program installers using Accessing HP Recovery Disc Files.

Special notes for Dell owners:

If your Recovery partition is triggered at boot from the F8 System Recovery Options then it will no longer run after clean reinstall, so make your Recovery disks first, delete Recovery partition during reinstall.

The bootable Dell Diagnostics often will run after Reinstall so are worth saving if they will boot. Try it now to test your hardware and see if these work, choosing on F12 menu Diagnostics and then Utility Partition which sometimes has a fuller suite. If they run save the Dell Utility partition during install, if not delete all partitions. These tests can also be run online at Dell PC Diagnostics | Dell US

Useful tips for Dell re-installation plus access to their forums to resolve questions can be found at Dell Community . The Dell Reinstallation DVD has only activation and a Dell logo added and can be used as long as it is labeled to include SP1.

Special Note for Sony Vaio Owners:

Software which enables F-key functions and illumination must be reinstalled from the Sony Support Downloads webpage in the order as shown here: Function keys don't work after clean install - Windows 7 Forums

Special Note for Samsung Owners:

Software which enables F-key functions and illumination may be labeled Easy Display Manager.

Special Note to Acer Owners

There is an OEM Preload folder hidden in the C:/ drive that holds all the pre-loaded software, including the eRecovery software.

Special Note for Lenovo Owners

The only OEM software I've found to be valuable is Power Management's features to preserve battery by maintaining a lesser charge when plugged in, and fan reversal to clean out dust. Download from your model's Support Downloads webpage or Power Manager for Windows 7 (32-bit, 64-bit), Vista (32-bit, 64-bit) - Notebook


Special thanks to Wolfgang (whs) for helping to reorganize this tutorial after 1 million views, and for the many contributions users felt important enough to include. You can add yours below :party:


Office Word version: View attachment Clean Reinstall.docx



 
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1). Will the "clean reinstall" process delete Microsoft office? If so, by using the product key number to reactivate Office, you can download Office "x" amount of times.

2). I am a little confused on step 7. What does "gather your program installers" mean?

Sorry for all of these simple questions for some of you experts.
 

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Hi Bob,

1. Yes - the clean install will format the entire hard disk, so everything on the hard disk, incl. the MSOffice installation will be deleted. You can install MSOffice again, and activate as normal using the Office key.

2. By "gather installers", Greg means that you should save any program installers to aan external USB drive, so that once you have installed Windows 7, you can then access these to install your other software to your PC. If your programs came on a set of DVD's, and you have those handy, then you don't need to worry since your installers are already accessible on the DVD's.

Many OEM installations have a utility to burn the drivers/installers specific to that OEM installation to a DVD as a backup - if you have that facility, you should run that BEFORE you proceed with the clean install.

Regards,
Golden
 
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Thank you for the quick response.
1). I have Office on the home computer and this laptop which makes for 2 downloads (same product key used on both). If I reinstall Windows 7, activating Office on the laptop will make for a total of 3 downloads, correct? What is the limit Microsoft assigns for Office 2007?

2). By exporting my username file to an external HD, I am not transferring other programs like Garmin, Google sketchup, etc?
 

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Hi Bob,

1. It sounds like you have a MSOffice Home & Student 3 Licence pack? is that correct? If so, then strictly speaking you are re-installing the 2nd MSOffice installation. We need more detail about what type of Office bundle you have.

2. No, I don't think so. The actually programs tend not to be installed in the username, although some related profile files might be. Google will be accessible from your internet browser (at least from IE) once you reinstall Windows. I'm not sure about sketchup, and presumbaly Garmin is the GPS software - they will probably need to be installed from the installation disks.

Regards,
Golden
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
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16GB Corsair Vengance DDR3 @ 661 MHz Dual Channel (9-9-9-24)
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EVGA NVidia GTX 560 1024MB
Sound Card
Realtek Integrated
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Dual Samsung SyncMaster 2494HS
Screen Resolution
1920*1080 and 1920*1080
Hard Drives
1*Samsung 840 EVO 120GB SSD;
1*OCZ Vertex 2 60GB SSD;
2*Samsung F3 SpinPoint 1TB in RAID0;
1*Samsung F1 SpinPoint 1TB;
2*Western Digital 1TB External USB 3.0
1*Western Digital 500GB External USB 3.0
1*Seagate 500GB External USB 2.0
PSU
Thermaltake ToughPower QFan 750W
Case
Thermaltake Element S VK60001W2Z
Cooling
Corsair H60 Water Cooling, 2*230mm and 2*80mm case fans
Keyboard
Logitech G110
Mouse
Logitech MX518
I always reinstall Google Sketchup from the latest download on its website. That along with all other downloaded installers are best directed to your Downloads folder which should be unhidden by rightclicking a blank area of Start menu, choose Properties>Customize. I keep every installer except those which come on disks in Downloads folder, and don't use the disk installer if there is a newer download (e.g. printer/scanner) on the program's Support Downloads webpage.

If you drag your named User account to external, make sure the key folders (Documents, Pictures, Favorites, Downloads, Video, etc.) are intact and completed copying.

You can always easily reinstall Office since it already has that computer's hardware ID recorded in its Activation servers. I would do a Custom install to only choose the features you know you want, or want to sample. Then I would turn off any features for this or any other program which don't need to be starting with Windows in msconfig>Startup and >Services after hiding all MS Services.
 
Yes, I do have Home and Student 2007. I may PM one of you Seven Guru when I attempt this next week. Office is the only program currently on my laptop that I paid for. So, I want to make sure there will be no problems installing it. Thank you Greg and Golden.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1AMD A8 5600K4.00 GB DDR3
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PC/Desktop
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Custom build
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Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit SP1
CPU
AMD A8 5600K
Motherboard
Asus F2-A85 M-Pro
Memory
4.00 GB DDR3
Hard Drives
500 GB HDD Western Digital Black
PSU
XFX Pro 550W
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Fractal Design Arc Midi R2
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Office Starter

Does anybody know how Office Starter would be affected by this method?

Would there be any way to back this up before formatting?

Since it's only available to OEMs, I have to assume I would need to use the Toshiba Recovery Media (Discs or Recovery Partition) instead of the Windows iso from Microsoft.

I would have to keep the partition in case something happened to the discs, otherwise if a reinstall was necessary, I would lose Office Starter, correct? I was kind of hoping since I had made the Recovery Discs, I could lose the partition and gain a few GB.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Win7 64bitAMD E-300 1.34GAMD Radeon HD 6310
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba C675D-S7101
OS
Win7 64bit
CPU
AMD E-300 1.3
Memory
4G
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6310
Sound Card
Realtek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3 integrated
Screen Resolution
16x9
Hard Drives
Toshiba MK5075GSX (500G advertised)
PSU
G71C000AR210
Case
Black
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Black with white letters, numbers and miscellaneous keys
Mouse
Touchpad/Logitech M525
Internet Speed
http://get.msn.com/?lm=en-us&prod=dialup
I saw where you said that MS was discontinuing Starter after I followed the external link, and because it had 2/3 reviews saying it did not work, I went to the MS OEM site, where I found they are no longer offering it to OEMs.

I would not be comfortable relying on the Downloadcrew's offering. If it were a requirement that I keep the partition, I would opt for that over the unsure D/L.

I don't expect you to know an exact answer about every system builder out there, but I'm going to ask about the likelihood of this situation: Would the recovery media hold everything necessary to restore the recovery partition, or would some data be excluded from the discs? Toshiba has seen fit to make their Recovery Discs 5 DVDs.

Thanks for putting up with me.
 

My Computer My Computer

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Win7 64bitAMD E-300 1.34GAMD Radeon HD 6310
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba C675D-S7101
OS
Win7 64bit
CPU
AMD E-300 1.3
Memory
4G
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6310
Sound Card
Realtek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3 integrated
Screen Resolution
16x9
Hard Drives
Toshiba MK5075GSX (500G advertised)
PSU
G71C000AR210
Case
Black
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Black with white letters, numbers and miscellaneous keys
Mouse
Touchpad/Logitech M525
Internet Speed
http://get.msn.com/?lm=en-us&prod=dialup
That's OK. Seems the comments about download failure are cropping up this month just as MS announces it's abandoning Starter. You can try installing the download on another machine to see how it works.

There's also Open Office which is very well liked and completely compatible.

The Toshiba Recovery disks normally have everything that's preinstalled on them. You can always try to Clean Up Factory Bloatware.
 
That's OK. Seems the comments about download failure are cropping up this month just as MS announces it's abandoning Starter. You can try installing the download on another machine to see how it works.

Not that fortunate anymore. There was a time when I had 6 machines running, though those days are long gone now.

gregrocker said:
There's also Open Office which is very well liked and completely compatible.

I may try it, although I've found that I just like the feel of MS Office. It's comfortable. I've tried some open source stuff before and didn't care for it much.

gregrocker said:
The Toshiba Recovery disks normally have everything that's preinstalled on them. You can always try to Clean Up Factory Bloatware.

That is the entire reason for this interrogation; To get prepared to clean up the machine. From what I've noticed myself and heard from others, 7 is pretty clean as is. It's the crap the OEM throws in that gets ya.
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win7 64bitAMD E-300 1.34GAMD Radeon HD 6310
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba C675D-S7101
OS
Win7 64bit
CPU
AMD E-300 1.3
Memory
4G
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6310
Sound Card
Realtek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3 integrated
Screen Resolution
16x9
Hard Drives
Toshiba MK5075GSX (500G advertised)
PSU
G71C000AR210
Case
Black
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Black with white letters, numbers and miscellaneous keys
Mouse
Touchpad/Logitech M525
Internet Speed
http://get.msn.com/?lm=en-us&prod=dialup
You will know after completing Clean Up Factory Bloatware if it is sufficient if Win7 never hangs or bogs, responds instantaneously. If not I would Clean Reinstall when you have access to MS new Office Web freeware. You should at least try Open Office to see if it suits you. Most everyone I've talked with about it likes it and won't go back.
 
You will know after completing Clean Up Factory Bloatware if it is sufficient if Win7 never hangs or bogs, responds instantaneously. If not I would Clean Reinstall...

Already have cleaned the factory install and it is not sufficient. Next option is to create my own install which will perform as desired.

Whether or not I am able to use certain aspects of the laptop with the 7 iso from MS is the question. I have read conflicting reports as to whether or not the OEM key will work on MS retail software. This is obviously the biggest issue. I should retain the factory recovery partition until I am sure. If it works and I want to reclaim that portion of the drive, I would be forced to reinstall, would I not?

Other options like drivers for the Fn keys, Office Starter, etc. would be trivial, but an inconvenience or an annoyance.

The only function I have ever used out of the Fn keys is that this is where Toshiba has decided to locate Print Screen. Is Snipping Tool an adequate replacement? I suppose I may have to learn to use it.

gregrocker said:
...when you have access to MS new Office Web freeware. You should at least try Open Office to see if it suits you. Most everyone I've talked with about it likes it and won't go back.

I will, on your advice.

Steve
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win7 64bitAMD E-300 1.34GAMD Radeon HD 6310
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba C675D-S7101
OS
Win7 64bit
CPU
AMD E-300 1.3
Memory
4G
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6310
Sound Card
Realtek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3 integrated
Screen Resolution
16x9
Hard Drives
Toshiba MK5075GSX (500G advertised)
PSU
G71C000AR210
Case
Black
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Black with white letters, numbers and miscellaneous keys
Mouse
Touchpad/Logitech M525
Internet Speed
http://get.msn.com/?lm=en-us&prod=dialup
The retail installer has been used to successfully Clean Reinstall factory OEM since Vista. I don't know where you read otherwise but we are the top resource on the web on these having helped countless thousands of users get one since Win7 release.

As it says in the tutorial you can wait to see if your Recovery partition will run after reinstall then reclaim its space without having to reinstall.

Snipping Tool is a great Win7 feature I use every day.

I don't see many problems with Toshiba drivers or software allowing full functionality of hotkeys or other features. The problems are normally with Sony or Samsung.
 
I don't know where you read otherwise...

Wish I could remember. It could have been something such as a few someones reporting errors after mistyping. As you say, that is the most common issue.

gregrocker said:
...but we are the top resource on the web on these having helped countless thousands of users get one since Win7 release.

You are great. This is now my go-to forum for issues.

gregrocker said:
As it says in the tutorial you can wait to see if your Recovery partition will run after reinstall then reclaim its space without having to reinstall.

I missed that one, thanks for the clarification.

gregrocker said:
Snipping Tool is a great Win7 feature I use every day.

Hopefully I won't lose my print screen, but if I do, I will adapt.

gregrocker said:
I don't see many problems with Toshiba drivers or software allowing full functionality of hotkeys or other features. The problems are normally with Sony or Samsung.

The issue would be that I do not seem to be able to find stand alone drivers for the Fn keys. It seems to be bundled in the TVAP, which I really don't feel I need and seems like a waste of space and time.

I would probably need to install a clean version of 7 just to find out what drivers I am missing or need to replace. No matter how many times I look and try to think ahead, something will fail to function properly.
 

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Win7 64bitAMD E-300 1.34GAMD Radeon HD 6310
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba C675D-S7101
OS
Win7 64bit
CPU
AMD E-300 1.3
Memory
4G
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6310
Sound Card
Realtek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3 integrated
Screen Resolution
16x9
Hard Drives
Toshiba MK5075GSX (500G advertised)
PSU
G71C000AR210
Case
Black
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Black with white letters, numbers and miscellaneous keys
Mouse
Touchpad/Logitech M525
Internet Speed
http://get.msn.com/?lm=en-us&prod=dialup
In that case you can save a WIn7 backup image of your current System partition then Clean Reinstall a test install. If it doesn't work like you want you can reimage back to what you have now in 20 minutes. This is your customized OS as it exists now so is a much better method than messing with clumsy Recov partitions.

I'd use two methods:
Backup Complete Computer - Create an Image Backup
System Image Recovery
or Macrium - Image your system
I prefer Acronis premium imaging/cloning app which comes free if you have any WD or Seagate HD's in the mix.
 
Wow, long post, mostly clarifications.

In that case you can save a WIn7 backup image of your current System partition then Clean Reinstall a test install. If it doesn't work like you want you can reimage back to what you have now in 20 minutes. This is your customized OS as it exists now so is a much better method than messing with clumsy Recov partitions.

This is what I was considering, leaving the Recovery alone for now.

gregrocker said:

Accompanied by:

gregrocker said:

  • Since I had few DVDs and very small USB storage, I was forced to trim what I will keep. With the image, everything will be replaced. Might the image of a drive which has 287 occupied GB (plus Toshiba Recovery) fit on a 4GB USB stick, or would I need larger? I had assumed that since a clean copy of Windows recommends a 4GB flash drive (And if I remember right, the install was around 16 GB?), depending on the compression of the additional files, using the 25% ratio as a guide, I would need ~70GB for the image?

From your pink warning (Apparently repeated 3 times for clarity): "...Windows 7 cannot include the partition or drive that you are saving the backup image to in the image."

"...All "system" or "boot" drives/partitions are included in the system image by default, so you will not be able to save the system image to a system or boot drive/partition."

"...If you are saving the system image to a HDD or partition, then you can only save the system image on a separate hard drive (recommended) or partition than what Windows 7 is installed on. It cannot be saved to the C: drive."

  • I only have 1 usable partition on 1 drive. Even if allowed to save to the drive, I would have to transfer the image in order to use it. I have 2 small USB sticks I'm using for the remaining backed up data. I have no DVDs at the moment and I also find fault with using them for backup files where the content is consolidated into a single file. I don't mind using them for backups if the data is not crucial and each file is separate.

  • If I instead backup my C:\ to the USB, I won't have a way to extract just the files from the image without restoring the image to the drive, thereby defeating the purpose.

"...All "system"...partitions are included in the system image by default..."

  • Then this includes the Recovery partition, even though it's not visible? Just in case.

I now have to assume that Windows Backup is out of the competition.

gregrocker said:

  • Last contestant. Again, how big would the image be?

gregrocker said:
I prefer Acronis premium imaging/cloning app which comes free if you have any WD or Seagate HD's in the mix.

  • Would that I had a quality drive. I'm afraid I'm stuck with the Toshiba. Well, maybe that's not fair. I haven't had any problems with their hardware, just their software installs so far. *Knock on wood*
 

My Computer My Computer

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Win7 64bitAMD E-300 1.34GAMD Radeon HD 6310
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba C675D-S7101
OS
Win7 64bit
CPU
AMD E-300 1.3
Memory
4G
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6310
Sound Card
Realtek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3 integrated
Screen Resolution
16x9
Hard Drives
Toshiba MK5075GSX (500G advertised)
PSU
G71C000AR210
Case
Black
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Black with white letters, numbers and miscellaneous keys
Mouse
Touchpad/Logitech M525
Internet Speed
http://get.msn.com/?lm=en-us&prod=dialup
The backup image is about as big as the used space of your C drive. You'd need an external.

You can also shrink the C drive to boot the installer and clean reinstall to a 20-30 gb test partition . If it doesn't work out you only need to delete it in Disk Mgmt. If you want to keep it we can help you do that.

Toshiba is likely not the HD make. Google what's listed under Disk Drive in Device manager to learn the make.
 
The backup image is about as big as the used space of your C drive. You'd need an external.

Was afraid of that.

gregrocker said:
You can also shrink the C drive to boot the installer and clean reinstall to a 20-30 gb test partition . If it doesn't work out you only need to delete it in Disk Mgmt. If you want to keep it we can help you do that.

Eh, jump in head first. You're about 2 hours too late.

BTW, Fn keys still have their functionality. After revisiting the Toshiba site, I realized my error. The item included in TVAP is the Flash Cards module, the graphic displayed when the Fn key is pressed. Trivialities.

gregrocker said:
Toshiba is likely not the HD make. Google what's listed under Disk Drive in Device manager to learn the make.

MKxx75GSX - Product Detail So far as I can find, Toshiba US only lists externals, but Euro lists the internals as well. Google returned Asian results as well. I don't know if they don't sell them retail here or what, but I've got it.

I didn't know they made drives, either, until I got this one.
 

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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win7 64bitAMD E-300 1.34GAMD Radeon HD 6310
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba C675D-S7101
OS
Win7 64bit
CPU
AMD E-300 1.3
Memory
4G
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6310
Sound Card
Realtek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3 integrated
Screen Resolution
16x9
Hard Drives
Toshiba MK5075GSX (500G advertised)
PSU
G71C000AR210
Case
Black
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Black with white letters, numbers and miscellaneous keys
Mouse
Touchpad/Logitech M525
Internet Speed
http://get.msn.com/?lm=en-us&prod=dialup

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Win7 64bitAMD E-300 1.34GAMD Radeon HD 6310
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba C675D-S7101
OS
Win7 64bit
CPU
AMD E-300 1.3
Memory
4G
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6310
Sound Card
Realtek HD
Monitor(s) Displays
17.3 integrated
Screen Resolution
16x9
Hard Drives
Toshiba MK5075GSX (500G advertised)
PSU
G71C000AR210
Case
Black
Cooling
Fan
Keyboard
Black with white letters, numbers and miscellaneous keys
Mouse
Touchpad/Logitech M525
Internet Speed
http://get.msn.com/?lm=en-us&prod=dialup
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