Solved Clearing old XP

[Britton30]

John, drivers are stored on a HDD, so you can't copy them to the PC. Maybe you should recheck for the correct drivers and save them directly to the USB.

Wasting time is my main activity nowadays.

 

[Zomby88]

Uggggggggggggg !!! I think we`re beating a dead horse here.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Ok B

I'll gibe it one more shot then it's that dead horse that Z is talking off..

I'm pretty fed up with the blasted thing as well but at least it was tried.

Sorry Z!

 

[ICIT2LOL]

NO go

Thanks you fellows have redone the drivers for the damn thing but it clearly isn't for someone as low tech as me to figure out. Perhaps the satellite bloke will be able to get the damn thing going.

Once again thanks so much for your time and most of all your patience I sincerely appreciate how much you have done today.

I reckon if only the dept stuff could have been got rid of without losing the net connect-ability things would have been ok.

Ah well such is life.

 

[MacGyvr]

All that's missing is a network card driver and you're going to quit? That makes no sense.

 

[iAmDan]

Does the physical network card have any details on it? E.g. serial number, if so perform a quick Google search of that to find your device.

Then when you have the device name search for the most up-to-date XP drivers.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Ok

Well Mac and IamDan I did that earlier on this afternoon and got the answer that it was no longer supported and that the driver was automatically downloaded with XP.

But I'll try again. Thing is getting it onto the new install as the other drivers I tried all failed to make nay difference.

Still here goes.

Well tried it again and it just will not go it does not even pick up the adapter card in device manager.
I have tried a spare (new) TP-Link adapter card installing the drivers from the small CD before inserting the card and it "sees' the card (with a small yellow ! underneath it) whereas it didn't the D-Link but still will not connect to the net. So I don't know what the dickens is wrong with it. So it looks like the machine is rigged only to run with the original hard drive.

 

[alphanumeric]

EDIT: Ops, Is the D-Link card wired or wireless? For some reason I think I just assumed it was a wireless card but reading the posts again I think maybe I got it wrong. I've really got to have some coffee before posting. I'm going to fire up my XP PC and have a look around and see if i can come up with something to try.

 

[alphanumeric]

One option is to open a command prompt window and run ipconfig/all. Then look to see if you are getting an IP address etc. You can also run ipconfig/release and then ipconfig/renew.

I've run this little app on my XP boxes, WhoAmI - find IP address, Internet connection test, DNS test, ip finder, locate ip ,it will do the above and then some. Its stand alone, no install required, just run it. It's quit handy for seeing whats going on with your network connection.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Hiyya alpha

Nope mate won't even run ipconfig - I get just a flash of a small black screen and it's gone.

Plus if I can't get on to the net I can't run those sites you suggested - unless I shove the other hard drive back in of course. Thats the annoying thing about it all it works with that wretched drive but the new one - starts up XP and then zip.

If thee was a way of clearing that government dept of education stuff out - no problem.

 

[alphanumeric]

Open a command window and run ipconfig from there. start orb > all programs > accessories > command prompt.

EDIT: You could try downloading that utility on another PC and then sneaker net it over on a USB flash drive.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Ok A

Ok mate might try that in the morning been at this all ruddy day and I reckon it's heading south to the old drive but I'll give it a go.

 

[iAmDan]

Have you tried pinging?

In cmd type: ping 127.0.0.1

 

[alphanumeric]

Something else to try would be to go into the BIOS and disable the on-board NIC. Just in case its interfering with the add-in card.

 

[MacGyvr]

Well Mac and IamDan I did that earlier on this afternoon and got the answer that it was no longer supported and that the driver was automatically downloaded with XP.

But I'll try again. Thing is getting it onto the new install as the other drivers I tried all failed to make nay difference.

Still here goes.

Well tried it again and it just will not go it does not even pick up the adapter card in device manager.
I have tried a spare (new) TP-Link adapter card installing the drivers from the small CD before inserting the card and it "sees' the card (with a small yellow ! underneath it) whereas it didn't the D-Link but still will not connect to the net. So I don't know what the dickens is wrong with it. So it looks like the machine is rigged only to run with the original hard drive.

Not possible. Sorry.

 

[MacGyvr]

Something else to try would be to go into the BIOS and disable the on-board NIC. Just in case its interfering with the add-in card.

I'm fairly certain he's just installing the wrong drivers. There are two steps here.

1) Get a NIC in the machine that shows in device manager as having no driver.
2) Get the proper driver and install it.

No rocket science required.

 

[Zomby88]

OK, OK, OK, I can`t believe you haven`t got this sorted out yet so I guess I`ll hafta take over. What is the make and model of the computer ?

Also, do you have the motherboard ethernet connection working properly and all is well with it in the device manager ?

I need exact details.

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Apologies - late

Sorry for late reply (late shifts RN) and I have to add that I am also sorry that I am not up to everyone’s level of tech knowledge. In fact I have only been going into the “workings” in any depth for about a year and still do not understand a lot of the terminology that everyone takes for granted.
I’ll try and answer some of the above as best I can.

I in my simple mind would liken it to me taking my TV to a friends place and just plugging it in and the TV working from the power and the antenna inputs. It therefore seems to me that it is far more complicated than that for computers and even more than I ever imagined.
Now the machine connects to the net using the old hard drive – with a D-Link card – but not the mobo socket, but will not connect up to the net with the mobo socket, D-Link or the TP-Link card sockets when the new hard drive is installed.

Now I have downloaded and transferred the drivers via a USB stick from http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/MIGR-55830.html and the new drive will still not work with either the mobo or D-Link or a TP-Link adapter card –both the latter which I have also installed the dedicated software for.
What is so frustrating is that with the old hard drive my mate could plug in his landline at his place and the mobo socket let him connect up.


If anyone is still willing to indulge my query I will attempt to answer some of the above to answer some of the above.

The ping comes up with - bytes=32 time<1ms TTL=128
The PCI D-Link was not showing up at all in device manager even though I installed the driver.

Machine is a 2005 IBM ThinkCentre M51 (driver list above)

Motherboard is
Intel
Chipset model i915P/i915G
Chipset revision B1
SouthB Intel
SouthB Model 82801FB (ICH6)

BIOS
IBM
Ver 2BKT42AUS
Date 4/5/2005

The mobo Ethernet Controller comes under “Other Devices” and when clicked open is listed –
Ethernet Controller
Multimedia Controller
Unknown Device
Video Controller
All of which have Yellow “?’s” in front of them

The TP-Link adapter is showing as installed but is showing a yellow”!” when opened.
In Properties it is showing that the driver is there although there is a message to say that Windows cannot load the device driver as something is missing or corrupted (Code 39).

To be absolutely honest I will not be offended or disappointed if anyone wants to drop out as I really do appreciate that it is taking up everyone’s time and patience, because believe me it is beginning to try mine.

 

[Britton30]

OK John, I appreciate your honesty here about terminology. To get back on track when you say hard drive is this what you mean?


When you have the working drive in, can you connect to the net from anywhere, or just your mate's place?

EDIT: Since you have XP up and running on that one drive, why not throw away the Dept of Education one?

 

[ICIT2LOL]

Hiyya B

It's the SATA drive - both are SATA the old and new the old one is a WD800 (WD Caviar SE) WD800JD-23JNC0 80GB and the new one a Seagate Barracuda 500GB ST3500413AS.

Quite frankly I was stunned that such an old machine would have a SATA drive as my old 2004 Dell has those ribbons cables!!

Now the only connections I can make is via the old WD drive at my mate's place through the mobo port, and at my place through the D-Link adapter card but not through the mobo port.

With the new drive in it will not connect by any port mobo, D-Link, or TP-Link cards. This despite loading all of those drivers I put on the new drive.

Now the strange thing is that Windows will not accept the TP-Link's software disk - although it the device driver is telling me that the driver is there because it gives e the version number in properties..



Sorry meant to add that the old drive is the dept one and the only one that will connect.
I have a sneaking suspicion that they have done something with the set up to stop anyone form "playing" with the set up.