Computer components get very warm/hot even under no load

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Hi, i've got my economy into place and things are working out for me right now, i have upgraded m desktop with a Be quiet pure power l8 630W with 30A on the 12v rail v1 and 30A on the second rail, it is more than enough to power the GTX 660 from asus i got for chrismas, I also changed out the chassi fan to a fractal design silent series 92mm fan, i got an adapter to get it to 12V becouse my motherboard bearly gives out 5V and thats not enough, But the box says it should give max 12,5dB and my fan is giving a lot more than that, so i put it down to 5V becouse it was too loud, i modified the case a bit and put the 80MM fan i was going to put on my cpu but if i remove the fan from the motherboard and use an exernal power source the computer will freak out becouse the cpu fan is "broken" or removed so the computer will shut down, so i put the fan in the front of the case, i now got a fair amount of airflow, but its not enough, the power supply gets very hot to the touch and the gou, well, it gets hot but it is like it should, its even factory oc'd so yeah it will run somewhat hot,
the case is very small and the airflow to the psu and gpu fans are poor,

I will get the Fractal design r4 case for my birthday but if this situation is critical i will buy it like now and get a 1TB SSHD for my birthday in febuary,

I just got skyrim too so i will put a lot of stress on the computer, is this a bad thing to do becouse of how hot the psu gets?
 

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Custom Built
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Windows 10 64Bit
CPU
Intel i7 6700K Cooled by Noctua NH-U14S
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ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming
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16GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Corsair
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ASUS Direct CUII OC GTX 660
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I hope hanging up your harddrives in rubber-bands for noise reasons isn't too harmful for the drives :S, but eh, rather silence than lasting drives.. :|
Is it possible that you have your fans drawing air out of the case & insufficient air can get into the case to replace that air. Normally the PSU fan takes air out of the case, so just check that your other fan is blowing air into the case. This should give a good air flow through the case.
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built using existing case
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
CPU
Intel i5 3570 3.4Ghz Ivy Bridge SKT 1155 quad core
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z77-HD3 SKT 1155 2xSata 3, 4x USB 3.0
Memory
G-Skill Rip Jaws 16Gb (8x2) DDR3 -1600 PC3 12800 CL 10 red
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Gigabyte NVIDIA GT610 1Gb DDR3 810/1200 PCI-E 2.0 Silent
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NVIDIA High Definition & Realtech High Definition Audio
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2 x Philips 226V4L 16:9 aspect ratio
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1920 x 1080 HD
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Samsung 840 Pro 256gb SSD, SATA 3.
Hitachi Touro Portable 1tb, USB 3.0 HDD used for image b/ups.
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Corsair VS450
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Codeng
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Logitech
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Is it possible that you have your fans drawing air out of the case & insufficient air can get into the case to replace that air. Normally the PSU fan takes air out of the case, so just check that your other fan is blowing air into the case. This should give a good air flow through the case.

I've set up both fans to pull air into the case and the psu is sitting in the top and drawing air from the case. cant really do anything else, So the psu is drawing a lot of medium to hot air..
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 10 64Bit
CPU
Intel i7 6700K Cooled by Noctua NH-U14S
Motherboard
ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming
Memory
16GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Corsair
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS Direct CUII OC GTX 660
Sound Card
Supreme FX (On-Board)
Monitor(s) Displays
1: 24" Asus 144hz 2: 21.5" Benq 3: 20" Hp 2009m
Screen Resolution
1:1920x1080 2:1920x1080 3:1600:900
Hard Drives
Primary/OS: Samsung 850 EVO SSD 250GB
Secondary/Main: Seagate 1TB SSHD 3.5"
Media/Backups: WD Green 2TB HDD 3.5"
PSU
Corsair RM 650W
Case
Fractal Design R4
Cooling
2 140mm Noctua NF-A14 ULN, Noctua NH-U14S Cpu cooler
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Corsair K70 RGB
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I hope hanging up your harddrives in rubber-bands for noise reasons isn't too harmful for the drives :S, but eh, rather silence than lasting drives.. :|
thermal cut off for most components is around 90c. thats hot!
power supplies will get hot as theyre stepping down 230v (110v in america) down to 12v, heat is a byproduct.
the fact its drawing hot air from the case is just an ancient design issue. this is why more expensive cases have bottom mounted fans, buuuut that doesnt mean it doent work the old fashioned way.

the fact your case fan was loud was because it was at 100% rpm. motherboard headers control the voltage depending on temp increasing fan speed if needed. powering it externally will not. a cheap fan speed controller will do the job.

now for the gpu.. some just run hot, back in the amd x300 days you could probably cook an egg on one but still ran fine.

I think youre just worrying over your new toys =) if things get too hot youll get warnings such as random shut downs or BSOD until then just enjoy it =)
 

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PC/Desktop
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Built by badgers!!!
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64, & Mac OS X 10.9.2
CPU
Intel Core i5 2500k
Motherboard
Asus P8z68 LE
Memory
Corsair Vengence 8gb 1866mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 770 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
2x ASUS LED 22" IPS
Screen Resolution
3840x1080
Hard Drives
240GB Crucial M500 SSD
120gb Corsair Force 3 SSD
1TB Western Digital
PSU
Corsair HX650w Modular
Case
Corsair Air 540
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Corsair H60 Push/Pull
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Corsair K70/ Logitech G27 wheel
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Saitek R.A.T 9
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the thing is that the fan should give a max of 12,5dB and the identical 80mm fan is also running at 100% and I don't hear it at all
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 10 64Bit
CPU
Intel i7 6700K Cooled by Noctua NH-U14S
Motherboard
ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming
Memory
16GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Corsair
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS Direct CUII OC GTX 660
Sound Card
Supreme FX (On-Board)
Monitor(s) Displays
1: 24" Asus 144hz 2: 21.5" Benq 3: 20" Hp 2009m
Screen Resolution
1:1920x1080 2:1920x1080 3:1600:900
Hard Drives
Primary/OS: Samsung 850 EVO SSD 250GB
Secondary/Main: Seagate 1TB SSHD 3.5"
Media/Backups: WD Green 2TB HDD 3.5"
PSU
Corsair RM 650W
Case
Fractal Design R4
Cooling
2 140mm Noctua NF-A14 ULN, Noctua NH-U14S Cpu cooler
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB
Mouse
ROCCAT Kone XTD
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I hope hanging up your harddrives in rubber-bands for noise reasons isn't too harmful for the drives :S, but eh, rather silence than lasting drives.. :|
Download Speccy - System Information - Free Download and it will give you the readings that you need. The fan RPM and CPU core temps are important. Let us know what they read. They are both listed under the "CPU" section of the program.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i3-2120 3.30Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 Socket H2 ATX
Memory
Kingston 4 GB DDR3 1333 mhz
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD6670
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Audigy SE 24-Bit
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VE228
Screen Resolution
1440 X 900
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB Sata 3 SSD ==
Kingston SH103/S3 120 G Hyper X 120 GB SSD ==
Western Digital 500 GB Caviar Green 7200 RPM ==
PSU
Corsair CX600M == 600 Watt
Case
NZXT Apollo - Silver with Clear Side Panel
Cooling
Three 120 mm Fans
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural 4000
Mouse
Microsoft Custom Optical 3000
Internet Speed
AT&T Fiber Optic Wireless Network
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
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Chrome
Other Info
120 mm Blue LED Fan -- Three Blue LED Lazer Light Sticks
ok, The cpu temps are no problem at all, im using an adapter molex to 2 12v and 2 5v, so i cant read rpms, but i know what rpm the fan goes on at 12v, it should be at 12,5dBA and 1300Rpm 24.6CFM
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 10 64Bit
CPU
Intel i7 6700K Cooled by Noctua NH-U14S
Motherboard
ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming
Memory
16GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Corsair
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS Direct CUII OC GTX 660
Sound Card
Supreme FX (On-Board)
Monitor(s) Displays
1: 24" Asus 144hz 2: 21.5" Benq 3: 20" Hp 2009m
Screen Resolution
1:1920x1080 2:1920x1080 3:1600:900
Hard Drives
Primary/OS: Samsung 850 EVO SSD 250GB
Secondary/Main: Seagate 1TB SSHD 3.5"
Media/Backups: WD Green 2TB HDD 3.5"
PSU
Corsair RM 650W
Case
Fractal Design R4
Cooling
2 140mm Noctua NF-A14 ULN, Noctua NH-U14S Cpu cooler
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB
Mouse
ROCCAT Kone XTD
Internet Speed
100 Mbit/s Download 100MBit/s Upload
Antivirus
F-Secure SAFE
Browser
Chrome, Firefox
Other Info
I hope hanging up your harddrives in rubber-bands for noise reasons isn't too harmful for the drives :S, but eh, rather silence than lasting drives.. :|

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32-Bit - Build 7600 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i3-2120 3.30Ghz
Motherboard
Asus P8Z68-V LX Intel Z68 Socket H2 ATX
Memory
Kingston 4 GB DDR3 1333 mhz
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD6670
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Audigy SE 24-Bit
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus VE228
Screen Resolution
1440 X 900
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120 GB Sata 3 SSD ==
Kingston SH103/S3 120 G Hyper X 120 GB SSD ==
Western Digital 500 GB Caviar Green 7200 RPM ==
PSU
Corsair CX600M == 600 Watt
Case
NZXT Apollo - Silver with Clear Side Panel
Cooling
Three 120 mm Fans
Keyboard
Microsoft Natural 4000
Mouse
Microsoft Custom Optical 3000
Internet Speed
AT&T Fiber Optic Wireless Network
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
120 mm Blue LED Fan -- Three Blue LED Lazer Light Sticks
Download Speccy - System Information - Free Download and it will give you the readings that you need. The fan RPM and CPU core temps are important. Let us know what they read. They are both listed under the "CPU" section of the program.

Please let us know these readings.

Heres a photo of the computer and a photo of the specs you whanted, The fan though that gives out sound is the chassi fan that is a fractal design silen series r2 and it is connected directly to the psu

20131228_184424.jpg

Cpu specs

CPU.JPG
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 10 64Bit
CPU
Intel i7 6700K Cooled by Noctua NH-U14S
Motherboard
ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming
Memory
16GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Corsair
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS Direct CUII OC GTX 660
Sound Card
Supreme FX (On-Board)
Monitor(s) Displays
1: 24" Asus 144hz 2: 21.5" Benq 3: 20" Hp 2009m
Screen Resolution
1:1920x1080 2:1920x1080 3:1600:900
Hard Drives
Primary/OS: Samsung 850 EVO SSD 250GB
Secondary/Main: Seagate 1TB SSHD 3.5"
Media/Backups: WD Green 2TB HDD 3.5"
PSU
Corsair RM 650W
Case
Fractal Design R4
Cooling
2 140mm Noctua NF-A14 ULN, Noctua NH-U14S Cpu cooler
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB
Mouse
ROCCAT Kone XTD
Internet Speed
100 Mbit/s Download 100MBit/s Upload
Antivirus
F-Secure SAFE
Browser
Chrome, Firefox
Other Info
I hope hanging up your harddrives in rubber-bands for noise reasons isn't too harmful for the drives :S, but eh, rather silence than lasting drives.. :|
you have a backwards case!! half your issue is your gpu is sucking air against the psu. as thats sucking too.
normally the gpu fans would be aiming down in a normal "left hand reared case"
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Built by badgers!!!
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64, & Mac OS X 10.9.2
CPU
Intel Core i5 2500k
Motherboard
Asus P8z68 LE
Memory
Corsair Vengence 8gb 1866mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia GTX 770 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
2x ASUS LED 22" IPS
Screen Resolution
3840x1080
Hard Drives
240GB Crucial M500 SSD
120gb Corsair Force 3 SSD
1TB Western Digital
PSU
Corsair HX650w Modular
Case
Corsair Air 540
Cooling
Corsair H60 Push/Pull
Keyboard
Corsair K70/ Logitech G27 wheel
Mouse
Saitek R.A.T 9
Internet Speed
Too slow!
Other Info
AMD fusion E350N Home server-Windows Home Server 2011 (also made by badgers!)
2011 Macbook 2.4ghz Core2Duo, 4gb ddr3, 120gb Ocz Vertex SSD
you have a backwards case!! half your issue is your gpu is sucking air against the psu. as thats sucking too.
normally the gpu fans would be aiming down in a normal "left hand reared case"

Yes i know. But someone missunderstood me and said that noo they get hot its the cpu's fault -.-
I know my cpu is running stable but the gpu and psu is not! Thats why i opened the post to get info about if the psu really should be very hot under load and even a bit warm under no load, also the gpu clocks down like crazy when maxing it with bechmarks, Also, the cpu (as you may see) get a ton of air to it, but the gpu is so large it blocks almost every way the air can take to get to the gpu and psu, i have ordered an Fractal Design R4 when i saw the huge downclock of the gpu,
But the case takes some time before it comes and i wonder if i can play skyrim for a long period without harming the psu and gpu, becouse. well. im impatient and i really whant to play skyrim becouse i just got it from my uncle on steam
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Built
OS
Windows 10 64Bit
CPU
Intel i7 6700K Cooled by Noctua NH-U14S
Motherboard
ASUS Z170 Pro Gaming
Memory
16GB 2133MHZ DDR4 Corsair
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS Direct CUII OC GTX 660
Sound Card
Supreme FX (On-Board)
Monitor(s) Displays
1: 24" Asus 144hz 2: 21.5" Benq 3: 20" Hp 2009m
Screen Resolution
1:1920x1080 2:1920x1080 3:1600:900
Hard Drives
Primary/OS: Samsung 850 EVO SSD 250GB
Secondary/Main: Seagate 1TB SSHD 3.5"
Media/Backups: WD Green 2TB HDD 3.5"
PSU
Corsair RM 650W
Case
Fractal Design R4
Cooling
2 140mm Noctua NF-A14 ULN, Noctua NH-U14S Cpu cooler
Keyboard
Corsair K70 RGB
Mouse
ROCCAT Kone XTD
Internet Speed
100 Mbit/s Download 100MBit/s Upload
Antivirus
F-Secure SAFE
Browser
Chrome, Firefox
Other Info
I hope hanging up your harddrives in rubber-bands for noise reasons isn't too harmful for the drives :S, but eh, rather silence than lasting drives.. :|
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