Documents and Settings & users not accessible

[drugo]

Hi

i got a terrible headache , i spent all the afternoon to browse my Documents and Settings & users folder , no way , i was not able!

today i installed photoshop cs4 32 bit on my w7 32bit

i tried to browse Documents and Settings ->denied access

i tried to customize cs4 keyboard shortcuts and and menu

i tried to browse the folder user
i found my name , clicked on application data ->access denied

i was not able to browse these folders

i tried Add_Take_Ownership.reg , nothing

i'm really sad

is there a way to take control of my pc:sarc:
i'm the administrator
i want to browse my pc
i bought w7 ultimate(ultimate only to have 2 language ,mine and my girlfriend) and it was not cheap

is there a way to take Ownership of my pc?

thanks

ps i'm almost disperate
have a great day

 

[pebbly]

hi drugo, you could try a system restore prior to when you had problems http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/700-system-restore.html or if that fails a repair install http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/3413-repair-install.html hope that helps you

 

[karlsnooks]

DrugO,

Thou shallt sweat it not. Everything is OK.

You have encounterd a "Junction Point" or link as Microsoft likes to call them.
I prefer to refer to them as a "forwarding address".

Microsoft moved where somethings are kept. To accommodate older software then they use Junction points.

Documents & Settings is going to point to %systemdrive%\Users

If you run cmd.exe, then you can run dir /al and see this link.

I'm pasting in a clip from my toshiba:
C:\>dir /al
Volume in drive C is ToshibaC
Volume Serial Number is 14F5-F34B

Directory of C:\

13-Jul-09 21:53 <JUNCTION> Documents and Settings [c:\Users]
0 File(s) 0 bytes
1 Dir(s) 30,083,604,480 bytes free


Oh yes, to see all of them go to %systemdrive% and enter
dir /al /s

the /s tells dos to recurse thru your subdirectories.

 

[logicearth]

Any folder that is giving you Access Denied is a junction point. Nothing is there so leave it alone.

 

[drugo]

DrugO,

Thou shallt sweat it not. Everything is OK.

You have encounterd a "Junction Point" or link as Microsoft likes to call them.
I prefer to refer to them as a "forwarding address".

Microsoft moved where somethings are kept. To accommodate older software then they use Junction points.

Documents & Settings is going to point to %systemdrive%\Users

If you run cmd.exe, then you can run dir /al and see this link.

I'm pasting in a clip from my toshiba:
C:\>dir /al
Volume in drive C is ToshibaC
Volume Serial Number is 14F5-F34B

Directory of C:\

13-Jul-09 21:53 <JUNCTION> Documents and Settings [c:\Users]
0 File(s) 0 bytes
1 Dir(s) 30,083,604,480 bytes free


Oh yes, to see all of them go to %systemdrive% and enter
dir /al /s

the /s tells dos to recurse thru your subdirectories.

Any folder that is giving you Access Denied is a junction point. Nothing is there so leave it alone.

thanks but to copy or delete a file inside these folder ,how could i do it?

 

[Dzomlija]

DrugO,

Thou shallt sweat it not. Everything is OK.

You have encounterd a "Junction Point" or link as Microsoft likes to call them.
I prefer to refer to them as a "forwarding address".

Microsoft moved where somethings are kept. To accommodate older software then they use Junction points.

Documents & Settings is going to point to %systemdrive%\Users

If you run cmd.exe, then you can run dir /al and see this link.

I'm pasting in a clip from my toshiba:
C:\>dir /al
Volume in drive C is ToshibaC
Volume Serial Number is 14F5-F34B

Directory of C:\

13-Jul-09 21:53 <JUNCTION> Documents and Settings [c:\Users]
0 File(s) 0 bytes
1 Dir(s) 30,083,604,480 bytes free


Oh yes, to see all of them go to %systemdrive% and enter
dir /al /s

the /s tells dos to recurse thru your subdirectories.

Any folder that is giving you Access Denied is a junction point. Nothing is there so leave it alone.

thanks but to copy or delete a file inside these folder ,how could i do it?

You don't need to. The "Documents and Settings" link points to "Users". So if you want to delete something from "Documents and Settings", just go into "Users".

I went into my user folder, and executed the "DIR /AL" command:

 Volume in drive C has no label.
 Volume Serial Number is EE35-0757
 Directory of C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija
08/11/2009  12:16    <JUNCTION>     Application Data [C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija\AppData\Roaming]
08/11/2009  12:16    <JUNCTION>     Cookies [C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Cookies]
08/11/2009  12:16    <JUNCTION>     Local Settings [C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija\AppData\Local]
08/11/2009  12:16    <JUNCTION>     My Documents [C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija\Documents]
08/11/2009  12:16    <JUNCTION>     NetHood [C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Network Shortcuts]
08/11/2009  12:16    <JUNCTION>     PrintHood [C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Printer Shortcuts]
08/11/2009  12:16    <JUNCTION>     Recent [C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Recent]
08/11/2009  12:16    <JUNCTION>     SendTo [C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\SendTo]
08/11/2009  12:16    <JUNCTION>     Start Menu [C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu]
08/11/2009  12:16    <JUNCTION>     Templates [C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija\AppData\Roaming\Microsoft\Windows\Templates]
               0 File(s)              0 bytes
              10 Dir(s)  16,494,596,096 bytes free

As you can see, the "Application Data" link points to "C:\Users\Peter Dzomlija\AppData\Roaming".

 

[karlsnooks]

You can't. You must go to the true "destination". As you saw, Documents and Settings points to \users

Many of us when we first encountered these weird links spent time trying, sometimes with success, to delete them only to find out that we had shot ourselves in the foot since Windows 7 and many apps rely upon those links.

Personally, I wish they had been hidden since they only cause confusion.

But as you noticed,
C:
CD\
DIR /AL /S
will show you where they point.

 

[logicearth]

Personally, I wish they had been hidden since they only cause confusion.

They are hidden! You have to uncheck "Hide protected operating system files" in order to show these junctions. It doesn't get any more hidden that.

 

[drugo]

You can't. You must go to the true "destination". As you saw, Documents and Settings points to \users

Many of us when we first encountered these weird links spent time trying, sometimes with success, to delete them only to find out that we had shot ourselves in the foot since Windows 7 and many apps rely upon those links.

Personally, I wish they had been hidden since they only cause confusion.

But as you noticed,
C:
CD\
DIR /AL /S
will show you where they point.

Personally, I wish they had been hidden since they only cause confusion.

They are hidden! You have to uncheck "Hide protected operating system files" in order to show these junctions. It doesn't get any more hidden that.

thanks i got it , i used total commander and i notice the "Junction Point"
thanks
but if i want to delete a file inside users , application data for example
or edit or copy a file inside

i get access denied

 

[logicearth]

thanks
but if i want to delete a file inside users , application data for example
or edit or copy a file inside
for example add a shortcut inside the folder sent to
i get access denied

You are going to the wrong place, there is no Application Data folder any longer.

C:\Document and Settings\[username]\Application Data is now C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Roaming

C:\Document and Settings\[username]\Local Settings is now C:\Users\[username]\AppData\Local

What you should do it check "Hide protected operating system files" so you will not be distracted by these false folders.

 

[karlsnooks]

drugo,
go to a command prompt
cd \%iserprofile%
dir /al

There is your answer.

This tells me that you never tried a sequence of commands I gave in a previous post in this thread.

You've got to do your part here.

 

[karlsnooks]

Oh heck,

Lighting was bad in the restaurant where I sent previous msg and my typing is bad, that should have been %userprofile% and actually %username% will also work for you.

 

[CommonTater]

DrugO,

Thou shallt sweat it not. Everything is OK.

You have encounterd a "Junction Point" or link as Microsoft likes to call them.
I prefer to refer to them as a "forwarding address".

Microsoft moved where somethings are kept. To accommodate older software then they use Junction points.

Documents & Settings is going to point to %systemdrive%\Users

If you run cmd.exe, then you can run dir /al and see this link.

I'm pasting in a clip from my toshiba:
C:\>dir /al
Volume in drive C is ToshibaC
Volume Serial Number is 14F5-F34B

Directory of C:\

13-Jul-09 21:53 <JUNCTION> Documents and Settings [c:\Users]
0 File(s) 0 bytes
1 Dir(s) 30,083,604,480 bytes free


Oh yes, to see all of them go to %systemdrive% and enter
dir /al /s

the /s tells dos to recurse thru your subdirectories.

Any folder that is giving you Access Denied is a junction point. Nothing is there so leave it alone.

thanks but to copy or delete a file inside these folder ,how could i do it?

You shouldn't need to mess with juntions or anything else... the fix is beyond simple.

Click Start then drag your user name out onto your desktop. This is the new version of Documets and settings. From there you can use it just like the XP version you're probably used to.

These folders are your "default save locations" and can easily be selected from your file save dialogs...

 

[Capt.Jack Sparrow]

Hello !!

Messing around with Documents and Settings in Windows 7 is a bad idea. That is the main reason the entry to that folder is blocked in Windows itself. In Windows Vista and Windows 7 Documents and Settings is replaced by Users. So if you want to getting into Application Data folder i guess the easy way is to Go to Start > Run > %appdata% then Hit OK now it should take you to Application Data folder.

Hope this helps,
Captain

 

[karlsnooks]

CommonTater,

"Click Start then drag your user name out onto your desktop. "

All this time and that had never occurred to me. Interesting.

I can see where that would be a preferred approach for some.

Personally, I hide the desktop icons and just have a theme on the desktop plus a clock gadget.

As said, I found the approach interesting and useful to some.
Thanks,
karl

 

[CommonTater]

CommonTater,

"Click Start then drag your user name out onto your desktop. "

All this time and that had never occurred to me. Interesting.

I can see where that would be a preferred approach for some.

Personally, I hide the desktop icons and just have a theme on the desktop plus a clock gadget.

As said, I found the approach interesting and useful to some.
Thanks,
karl

The whole point of having a desktop at all is that you can arrange your frequently used shortcuts on it for ease of access... That is literally why it's there. Otherwise you'd see Windows with a horrificly complex menu setup and little or no convenience features.

The first thing anyone new to win7 should do is drag their Username, the computer link and the network link out onto their desktop... This gives them the central locii of their filing system at easy access... From there it's beyond easy to use the system.

In day to day operation --since win95-- I run my computers almost entirely by clicking on files. I rarely use the start menu or launch programs directly... 99% of what I do is done simply by clicking on files and letting the file associations take care of it for me.

Another thing a lot of people don't seem to realize is that they can create folders anywhere on their file system and make shortcuts to them either on the desktop and/or in their users folder... I don't even want to guess how often I've gone on service calls to find literally thousands of music files all stacked up in "My Music" because the client didn't know they could just keep making new folders as they needed them....

The power of windows is in it's native file system... The desktop links I've descriibed over and over these past couple of weeks are the users's best access to it.

 

[karlsnooks]

CommonTater,

The links are good.

"Each to his own.", said the man as he kissed the cow.

 

[CommonTater]

CommonTater,

The links are good.

"Each to his own.", said the man as he kissed the cow.

Well... here's my desktop....



How convenient is that?

 

[karlsnooks]

CommonTater,
Excellent

 

[Brian Davison]

So why on earth don't MS say so??? why "access denied" instead of "junction point browse to c:\users instead" ?
One is helpful, the other just plain nasty!!