Solved Failing to update?

[Alexey2912]

Hi
Don't worry about indexing or settings yet
Don't use the computer while updating.

The update "might" need to be excluded install all of the updates to begin with.

Hi,

Am using my 1st Android cell, and not the computer.

To exclude, go through the list and if I find it to un check it...correct?

Thanks.

 

[ThrashZone]

Yes but don't worry about doing it unless you get error installing all 162 at the same time.

 

[Alexey2912]

Yes but don't worry about doing it unless you get error installing all 162 at the same time.

Would you recommend splitting them.....security updates etc and frameworks separately?

Thanks!

 

[derekimo]

How do you know about "SHA and MD5 checksum nos"
Hell I don't even know what the heck those are

I use this,

HashCheck Shell Extension

And it generates it right in the properties window,

View attachment 385901

Then check this site for the numbers,

https://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/downloads/hh442898

View attachment 385904

And see if they match,

View attachment 385903

You can see the SHA matches so the download wasn't corrupted.

May I ask how do you use Hash shell Extension....?

I used 7zip........

I did install it but how does it actually function?

Best regards!

It works just like the one in 7-zip, but it does it right in the properties window of the file, it just adds it's own tab to the properties window,

when you click on it's tab, it starts calculating just like 7-zip does in a separate window.

Either one will work, I just usually use the one in the properties window. I have 7-zip too.

The benefit of the shell extension is you can paste the hash you are trying to match in the bottom and it will let you know if it matches one above.

Like I did in this one,

Compared to 7-zip,



Which just gives you the hash but you need to compare them separately.

 

[ThrashZone]

Yes but don't worry about doing it unless you get error installing all 162 at the same time.

Would you recommend splitting them.....security updates etc and frameworks separately?

Thanks!

Lets see if the first attempt to load all 162 at once fails first before we alter the way they are installed

 

[Alexey2912]

Yes but don't worry about doing it unless you get error installing all 162 at the same time.

Would you recommend splitting them.....security updates etc and frameworks separately?

Thanks!

Lets see if the first attempt to load all 162 at once fails first before we alter the way they are installed

Although was able to locate and uncheck KB 3020369 update, but it took 3 attempts to install all 162 windows important updates (using WiFi).

I fail to understand when computer functions fine with WiFi, whats its issue with MS updating?

Wired I feel would be a better to go forward......

Thoughts about this DWR-921 4G LTE Router | D-Link UK

Thanks again shall keep you updated!

I plan doing a clean flash again since I know it works.........may be fewer issues now?

You didn't reply why am I getting unable to read error using Rufus.....cause of 16 KB cluster size of the W7 iso?

 

[Alexey2912]

I use this,

HashCheck Shell Extension

And it generates it right in the properties window,

View attachment 385901

Then check this site for the numbers,

https://msdn.microsoft.com/subscriptions/downloads/hh442898

View attachment 385904

And see if they match,

View attachment 385903

You can see the SHA matches so the download wasn't corrupted.

May I ask how do you use Hash shell Extension....?

I used 7zip........

I did install it but how does it actually function?

Best regards!

It works just like the one in 7-zip, but it does it right in the properties window of the file, it just adds it's own tab to the properties window,

when you click on it's tab, it starts calculating just like 7-zip does in a separate window.

Either one will work, I just usually use the one in the properties window. I have 7-zip too.

The benefit of the shell extension is you can paste the hash you are trying to match in the bottom and it will let you know if it matches one above.

Like I did in this one,

Compared to 7-zip,

View attachment 385952

Which just gives you the hash but you need to compare them separately.

Thanks for explaining....

Hash Check after running creates a SHA file in the properties window.....correct?

How do you place the no in lower check box > Find?

Best regards!

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
I don't know what is up with the cluster error ?

Yea I would never of attempted using wifi I thought I already stated please use wired for updates since the iso download issue came up

I don't know anything about that model of wireless router besides it's cutting out at bad times

 

[Alexey2912]

Thanks for sharing your expert thoughts.

Regarding cluster Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way, according to this screenshot bootable usb, cluster size 16 KB, but file system of iso wasn't FAT32 but NTFS......on boot gives an error unable to read data?

Does MS updating with multiple updates needs constant, good connection using WiFi?

Best regards!

 

[ThrashZone]

The device should have been formatted as ntfs not Fat32.

 

[Alexey2912]

The device should have been formatted as ntfs not Fat32.

It automatically picked the iso as ntfs, but placed cluster size as 16 KB, of the other options.

 

[ThrashZone]

Device meaning the usb flash drive ntfs not the iso
I posted it earlier use Option 2 settings in rufus
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2432-usb-windows-7-installation-key-drive-create.html#option2
Not sure what difference it matters now you have 2 dvd installers

 

[Alexey2912]

Device meaning the usb flash drive ntfs not the iso
I posted it earlier use Option 2 settings in rufus
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/2432-usb-windows-7-installation-key-drive-create.html#option2
Not sure what difference it matters now you have 2 dvd installers

True I agree when I have 2 media what difference does it mean.

Just was a hypothetical statement wanted to learn what was I doing wrong.......I think as per Option 2, size is 4096 bytes and didn't run 2 times.....

But any ways thanks again and lets see how it goes now.

Have a nice holiday!

 

[derekimo]

Thanks for explaining....

You're welcome.

Hash Check after running creates a SHA file in the properties window.....correct?

Correct, it calculates the hashes you see there.

How do you place the no in lower check box > Find?

Copy/Paste would be the easiest.

 

[Alexey2912]

Thank Derek, for replying appreciate it.

Could you care to answer a few queries:

1. Attaching screen shots, does Hash Check on install create the file seen?

2. How do I link a file to 7 zip?

3. As to updates, selected 161 of 162 excluding KB 3020638, approx 130 got installed and 25 odd didn't giving 3 different error codes and displaying restart and reinstall the remaining, is that normal when updating after a clean install?

Thanks again,

Best regards!

 

[derekimo]

You're welcome, if you mean the source file on the right, I don't remember it being part of the install, it looks like you may have downloaded that separately.



I had to download that on purpose just now, and it matches that 7z file in your screenshot.

To link that to 7 zip, open up 7 zip and go to tools, options, click on the file type to highlight, then the plus sign over the user or all users,



Then apply at the bottom.

As for the updates, yeah it's normal for some to fail when doing big batches, could be a few reasons for it, sometimes it isn't needed anymore or it needs an update installed before it or it might just need to be installed by itself.

 

[Alexey2912]

Thanks Derek for the explanation:

1. Correct I downloaded both the installer and the other is the source code.

2. Can't find tools in 7 zip?

3. Thanks for confirming about getting errors/failing when installing big batches, hope wont create any issues further along, apart from in update history displaying as unsuccessful failed updates.

4. Lastly as posted earlier, disabling hibernation, turning off system restore, disabling indexing, setting a custom page file, should ideally be done after completion of updating Windows and MS office or it doesn't matter.....or such changes if made earlier interfere with update process?

Best regards!

 

[derekimo]

Tools is on the menu bar,



As for the last question, it "shouldn't" really matter, I think I would just wait myself but that's up to you.

 

[Alexey2912]

Thanks Derek, a few screen shots of installed and failed update for your expert view.

Best regards!

 

[Alexey2912]

A couple more.

This was performed, with disabled hibernation, system restore off and custom page 4989 MB min and max set.

Best regards!