File Sharing Win 7/Vista/XP

[bkaye2]

Have 3 PCs (A. vista laptop, B. win 7 laptop and C. xp pro sp3 desktop) networked....A can file share (browse) on B...B can file share (browse) on A....C can file share (browse) on both A and B....neither A nor B can browse on C...errmsg is that \\C is not accessible...might not have permission...etc "Logon Failure:the user has not been granted the requested logon type at this computer"

Any thoughts on how to solve this problem?

Thanks

 

[ketlord]

I have got the same problem i can see and access the files on win XP but i cannot access files from win 7..... more I can only access one folder Users...

Plz help

 

[bkaye2]

My problem is the reverse....neither the vista nor win 7 PC can access the files on the XP PC, but the XP PC can access files on both....The XP PC shows up in the Network listing...just can't access it....

 

[patwhatsthat]

Not sure if this will help, but in my experience problems such as these are often caused my confusion about user accounts and passwords, or user accounts without passwords and I have found they can often be resolved by making sure that all the machines in the workgroup have a common user name and password with the appropriate permissions. I know it seems counter-intuitive to create usernames and passwords or to add passwords to useraccounts when you haven't needed them before, and after all they're all your computers why should you need passwords, and I know there are other means of resolving this issues but this has just worked for me in the past and I'm passing it along.

 

[kegobeer]

Have you followed any of these guides?

How to make Windows 7 work with older Windows versions for networking and file sharing.

Sharing a printer on Windows 7 Vista XP network

Do you have any security/antivirus applications running? If you do, have you completely removed them to verify they are not blocking your networking attempts?

 

[chev65]

Using common user names on all machine simply does not work. I tried this and it made one of my machines completely invisable on my network, as in does not work and isn 't meant to work that way at all. Try it and you will see what I mean.

You also do not need user account passwords to securely share files. IMO the biggest problem people seem to be having when sharing files on different Op systems is they aren't using the public file sharing option with password protection OFF, which will get you an error message everytime.

 

[kegobeer]

Using common user names on all machine simply does not work. I tried this and it made one of my machines completely invisable on my network, as in does not work and isn 't meant to work that way at all. Try it and you will see what I mean.

You also do not need user account passwords to securely share files. IMO the biggest problem people seem to be having when sharing files on different Op systems is they aren't using the public file sharing option with password protection OFF, which will get you an error message everytime.

I have identical users and passwords on all of my computers - done it that way for years - and have no issues with computers disappearing from the network. AFAIK, it would be impossible to attribute a computer not being visible to what usernames you have on a computer. If that was indeed true, you would not be able to have the same username on any computer in a network. In fact, add a WHS to a home network, and don't use identical names in the WHS and the client computers - you will not have any sharing going on, period.

Try this little experiment - turn off password protected sharing, add the "everyone" group to a directory (a bad idea, IMHO), and don't use identical users on each machine. Then, bring a Windows 7 machine into your network, but don't add it to the workgroup. Dollars to donuts, that new Windows 7 computer will have complete access to whatever you are sharing (and probably even things you don't want shared, if you use the \\name\\c$ trick).

Bypassing tried and true networking configurations will indeed get file sharing going, but IMHO it's not the best way. Since my job is enforcing security rules and protocols, I will always suggest the most secure way of file sharing. Of course, everyone is entitled to configuring their networks however they want - I've run across people who don't even use firewalls or any type of wireless security - my way works for me. YMMV.

 

[patwhatsthat]

yes...what he said, LOL. Actually a user is this forum jkkw http://www.sevenforums.com/network-sharing/12467-win-7-xp-file-sharing-problem-2.html posted this link http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...5D-1B5A-4447-8036-ACC918BA7AF2&displaylang=en download it and read page six I believe it may very well help some here, or perhaps someone else. What's new is old again...or is that the other way around

 

[bkaye2]

First..thanks for all the replies....

From my own trials, it appears (at least for my set-up) that the solution is indeed, tied to user/password combinations....initially, none of my PCs had pws and I could browse win7<=>vista, but not -->xp...could also browse xp to both win7 and vista. After creating the same user/pwd combo on all three PCs and making them the active user on each PC, I could browse every which way with no problems...then, I started messing around by removing pwds and trying to browse around....

Observations(I think)...
I couldn't find circumstances (user/pwd combos) which kept win 7 and vista from browsing with each other...

xp requires a pwd for its active user in order to browse other OSs...other OSs require at least one user (who does not have to be the active user) who has a pwd...

assuming this to be the case,...

xp will browse with either of the other two OSs, if active user/pwd the same as xp....

xp will browse with other OSs if activer user does not have a pwd, but a non-active user does exist who has a pwd and that combo is known to xp user...xp will prompt for user/pwd...

if other OS active user does not have pwd, but wants to browse xp, user will be prompted for an xp user/pwd....


if I had a standard hold harmless, I'd put it hereD), but these observations worked for me...

 

[patwhatsthat]

It may perhaps, lack a certain eloquence, but as long as you're getting the jist of it, I'd say good for you. Glad you got the access you needed to your other machines.

 

[ketlord]

Thanks to all....

Bkaye2 Can you plz explain that how did u use the pswed /user combination....
how do u setup same username password.....???

More I can access files from xp but i cant access from 7...they are connected over Linksys router.....
at first i could not access xp but then i changes one option in adv options besides the password removal.....;homegroup connections....

i also added everyone....but dont know ...wts the problem.

By the way in vista it was not that difficult i had the access easily...... but now....

errrr...

Regards

 

[kegobeer]

Thanks to all....

Bkaye2 Can you plz explain that how did u use the pswed /user combination....
how do u setup same username password.....???

More I can access files from xp but i cant access from 7...they are connected over Linksys router.....
at first i could not access xp but then i changes one option in adv options besides the password removal.....;homegroup connections....

i also added everyone....but dont know ...wts the problem.

By the way in vista it was not that difficult i had the access easily...... but now....

errrr...

Regards

Have you read this yet?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...5D-1B5A-4447-8036-ACC918BA7AF2&displaylang=en

 

[bkaye2]

I saw the link after I solved my problem, so I didn't bother to follow it....

What I suggest....

Make sure all three PCs are set up with the same Work Group....I set them up as WORKGROUP...from what I read, HOMEGROUP is very specific and can only be used by Win 7...not XP.

Don't know if you use passwords, but I didn't on any of my PCs....I set up a same named User(from the Control Panel) on all computers with the same Password. Then, as a test, sign on to both PCs with this new logon....if I'm right, you shud be able to browse the Win 7 PC from XP as well as XP from Win 7...

If this works, logoff the XP computer and then logon using a different user...when you go to browse the Win 7 PC, you shud be prompted for a User/Password combination. Enter the ID and Password of the new User. You shud be then be able to browse the shares on the Win 7 PC....

Hope it works....

 

[ketlord]

I have opened that microsoft article but its lengthy to read....lols

sorry i was wrong in explaining ....

I can access files from xp computer but i cannot access from windows 7

at first i could not see xp but then i changed the options.

password is offf and i cannot setup homegroup in xp ....

although i can see the workgroup and even contents of win 7 but except one folder users i cannot access the rest.....

gives error......

 

[bkaye2]

Not sure what to tell you to fix the problem, but as far as I can tell....

• 
  In order to browse the various PCs, they must be part of the same Workgroup

• An XP PC cannot be setup in a HOMEGROUP Workgroup.

• There must be a user with the same name and password set up on each computer.

• Users and passwords are setup in the User Control Panel app...

Good luck...