How good is my rig?

[PRiMO]

Alright guys. Im going to make a major upgrade to my computer, and the only parts that will remain will be the drive and my HDD. My purpous is gaming and, I'd like to know if this rig can run games like gta IV, battlefield bad company 2, crysis, far cry, nfs shift, etc etc properly with an average of maybe 50/60 fps + MAXED OUT.

XFX Core Edition 550W - 57.9€
PNY GEFORCE GTX 560 TI - 1GB DDR5 - PCI-EXPRESS 2.0 - 199€
Corsair 2x2048MB DDR3 1333Mhz XMS3 CL9 New Classic - 44.90€
ASUS M4A87TD EVO AMD870G SKAM3 - 97.50€
AMD PHENOM II X4 955 BE Quad-Core 64Bits 8MB BOX SKAM3 - 122.90€
Zalman Z9 Plus LED Display - 51.9€

Total - 574€

 

[MadSupra354]

Where is the hard drive and case?

 

[PRiMO]

HDD - Western Digital 500gb Sata2 7200 Rpm 32mb Buffer
Case is the Zalman Z9 Plus.

 

[Wishmaster]

Alot really depends on your budget.

Not sure about XFX Power supplys, but I think Id stick with Corsair, Antec, Seasonic.
550W should be enough, but any bigger of a GPU you may want to consider 650W. Will be more than enough, and have some breathing room.

Also, if your main purpose for the build is gaming, It may be worth investing abit more into the GPU.
Not that the 560 is a bad card ..
But perhaps try to step it up to a 6950, 6970, GTX570

 

[PRiMO]

Well im not rich so my budget goes to a 600€ maximum. But wont the gtx560 handle most current games maxed out plus, with an average of 50/60+ fps ? Main reason is to play Battlefield Bad Company 2 Online without fps lag, starcraft 2, crysis, etc etc maxed out and maybe battlefield 3 .

 

[Wishmaster]

Yes, and it will likely be just fine for what you want out of it.
They are fine cards. Its slightly faster than a 460.

Crysis may not hold 50-60FPS at Max settings, but it should be playable and smooth.

The main factor will be what resolution you game at.

Another option, if they arent much more, is go with the EVGA 560.

This way you get a Lifetime warranty, as well as a 90days to step up to a faster card if you decide you want to.

 

[PRiMO]

I think the PNY also offers a lifetime warranty but im not sure about that 90 day upgrade thing. Well I said crysis as an example as for "this generation games"m I mean the newest game. My resolution will most probably be 1440x900 and maybe later I will move to a 23" screen but im not sure about the resolution of it . Here's the monitor page : BX2235 - BX2235 - Monitores LED - monitores | SAMSUNG

 

[Luckystar]

Yeah you will definetly need to rethink your graphics. some of those games won't even maxxed out with 50 to 60fps, especially gta iv as that needs more than 1200mb to get up to the max regions. heck I can't max with my 570 and I'm lucky if I see 50fps max.

if that is your budget either keep looking for a 570 or save a bit more and get a 580 if you want all eye candy at the best fps possible.

lucky.

 

[PRiMO]

But the 560 will run gta iv, crysis, Battlefield Bad Company 2 is the most important, all these games maxed outs and run smoothly or at least playable? Not like now im playing Battlefield Bad Company 2 and Im running it on average of 14-20 fps and god it makes me rage.

This is my current rig:

Aqui estão os specs do meu computador actual:
AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+
ATI HD 4600 Series
ECS GF8100VM-M5
Lc-Power LC 420H-12
Western Digital 500gb Sata2 7200 Rpm 32mb Buffer
3,00 GB RAM
TSSTcorp CDDVDW SH-S203B ATA

If I buy this rig now and maybe later upgrade the GPU, most probably to be in a few years, will it be a good deal? Like will the cpu, ram and motherboard be enough for the next 3-5 years?

EDIT: I've been searching for better alternatives that can stay in the budget a little bit and I found these 2 GPU. What's your opinion about them?

POWERCOLOR ATI HD6950 2048MB DDR5 PCI-E

GIGABYTE GTX560 TI OC 1024MB DDR5 PCI-E

 

[smarteyeball]

Both are decent overclockers and both will give decent performance. You may not be able to fully max everything, but you'll certainly be able to get smoother and more playable gameplay than you currently do.

At stock clocks, both cards are pretty equal.

You can't really go wrong with either.

 

[PRiMO]

The difference is that the 6950 is around 50€ more expensive and the gtx560 OC is around 20€ more expensive.

 

[smarteyeball]

If the budget is really that tight, then I'd go for the 560. The extra vram of the 6950 can be handy for a few titles (AA etc), but nvidia does tend have arguably better drivers.

What screen resolution are you running?

 

[PRiMO]

1440x900 but I hope soon to be better

 

[Wishmaster]

well, resolution does play a large role in performance.

I would say at 1440x900 or even 1680x1050 you should be just fine with the 560.


At 1920x1080, it may start to really put some stress on it however. But should still perform well.

 

[smarteyeball]

At that res 1GB is not an issue - VRAM only starts to become an issue @ 1920x1080+ and even then, only on titles that use around 800mb or so (which isn't all that many - although GTA IV is one of them with all settings maxed, which you wouldn't be be maxxing anyway). Otherwise the 1GB vs 2GB starts to become a moot point. If eyefinity was a possibility, then the VRAM would be much more of a concern.



Older reference 6950's can have their shaders unlocked, or even cross flash the BIOS to the same specs as a 6970. That + some overclocking will get you near 6970 stock speeds. However, newer models are more hit and miss in the BIOS flash, unlocking area. Non-reference models cannot be crossflashed.

Basically it comes down to personal preference and cost.

Your proposed build with either card will see your framerate improve significantly into much more acceptable and enjoyable levels.

 

[PRiMO]

Hmm enjoyable level... What's your prevision of my fps average - total games ?

 

[smarteyeball]

At 1440x900, 50-60FPS is pretty realistic with perhaps a few details lowered (AA, etc)

A newer screen with a higher res will see it drop more on some games than others.

It's hard to be accurate as each game is different.

Unfortunately to completely max out games with solid 50-60 plus everything maxed, you're looking at 6970/580 , even crossfire/SLI setups.

 

[RST101]

If your getting the 560 then you may want to consider gigabytes soc edition.

Either way, all the cards mentioned will give smooth enjoyable game play for a while yet.

 

[Lordbob75]

Double the RAM, no reason not too.
Looks decent other than that. Though I might bump up the PSU a little.

~Lordbob

 

[PRiMO]

Yeah guys thanks for all the tips I've kind of failed to convince my dad to let me buy this new computer so I wont be getting it after all... He says my current system can run 32-bit LOL! I also bought my current computer 1 year ago and I think it was a bad choice because I could've saved a little more so I could get a better computer.. He also says that I only use computer for fun, to play with and not to work with... How the hell is a 16 yr old supposed to use a computer to work? And what's the point of using a computer for fun if you can't have proper fun.. I seriously dont get my parents I will probably spend these 400€ I had saved for the computer in clothes -_-'' Or maybe I will keep saving for a better computer. I need to find a way to start using a computer to work... Do we need a good computer to learn programming? Im studying to be an IT ( I think that's the name ) or a programmer I think.