Solved how to make os option menu appear in a dual boot pc?

[Vineet Garg]

Hi,
Sir/Madam, Amina Alomari : I will be back tomorrow evening. Till then 2 tasks :

1. check out for Secure Boot as here : Confirm-SecureBootUEFI
((You need to do it from windows 10. It has to be done from Elevated PowerShell & not cmd prompt!
Open Elevated Windows PowerShell in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
Then type ''Confirm-SecureBootUEFI'' & press Enter [Type Without Quotes ""] ))

2. If you find Secure Boot is available for your motherboard and is enabled, look in 'Boot' Menu and disable it. As you posted : https://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/installation-setup/404367d1530307527-how-make-os-option-menu-appear-dual-boot-pc-img_20180629_235522.jpg

3. I am also looking towards seniors for the last words but i would like to look into somethings, etc.

Thanks & Regards. ...

 

[Amina Alomari]

Hi,
Sir/Madam, @Amina Alomari : I will be back tomorrow evening. Till then 2 tasks :

1. check out for Secure Boot as here : Confirm-SecureBootUEFI
((You need to do it from windows 10. It has to be done from Elevated PowerShell & not cmd prompt!
Open Elevated Windows PowerShell in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
Then type ''Confirm-SecureBootUEFI'' & press Enter [Type Without Quotes ""] ))

2. If you find Secure Boot is available for your motherboard and is enabled, look in 'Boot' Menu and disable it. As you posted : https://www.sevenforums.com/attachm...u-appear-dual-boot-pc-img_20180629_235522.jpg

3. I am also looking towards seniors for the last words but i would like to look into somethings, etc.

Thanks & Regards. ...

Hello
I did as you instructed me ..
The result was "true" meaning i have secure boot in my mb.
However when i found it in boot menu, it is actually enabled but i dont have the option to disable it. Its greyed out and unchangeable.

And i am still awaiting your opinion concerning the way to show up boot menu at startup.

Many thanks again.

 

[Vineet Garg]

First These Two !

Hi,
Sir/Madam,
Amina Alomari :
1) https://www.sevenforums.com/attachments/installation-setup/404367d1530307527-how-make-os-option-menu-appear-dual-boot-pc-img_20180629_235522.jpg
This is not going to work, Keep both drives always enabled for what we want to achieve & maintain. Need not fear.
2) To disable secure boot refer here carefully.
How to Disable or Enable Secure Boot for ASUS Motherboard
Go to section : Step-by-Step: Take Backup of Existing Keys and Disable Secure Boot, take backup of keys ( you may want to enable secure boot again in future!) and get it done. Boot in windows 10 i.e. "Windows Boot Manager'' ( SATA6G_2: WDC WD 10EZEX 00RKKA0 ) & Run the same command to confirm the 'Secure Boot' status. If done well, go again in the bios AND make sure that the 'Secure Boot' is 'disabled' & 'Platform Key (KY) State' is 'unloaded' for all the 'OS Types'. ( choose all the OS Type one by one in the menu and check the status for the two!) Go again in windows 10, run the same command & check the Secure Boot status again to make sure everything is fine. ( While doing changes in bios, be a little careful )
3. To avoid any problems : back up the files on USB pen drive, quick format it and then use to save keys.

Please Report.

Thank & Regards. ...

 

[Vineet Garg]

Hi,
Sir/Madam,
Amina Alomari:

1) Done ?

2) Having done that boot into win10 & win7, run 'bcdedit' from elevated command prompt and report the results.

(a) In windows 7: Elevated Command Prompt - Windows 7 Help Forums
[ Go to 'Here's How: > Step 3'. In the cmd prompt window type 'bcdedit' (without quotes ' ') and press 'enter'. To Copy the result :'click the top left small icon ( marked as yellow in the below attached image) > Edit > Select All'. Once selected press 'Ctrl+C' to copy the report, go where you want to paste it and press 'Ctrl+V' ]


(b) In windows 10 : Open Elevated Command Prompt in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
[ option 3. In the cmd prompt window same as in windows 7 ]

Report & let us know.

Thanks & Regards. ...

 

[Amina Alomari]

Hi,
Sir/Madam,
@Amina Alomari:

1) Done ?

2) Having done that boot into win10 & win7, run 'bcdedit' from elevated command prompt and report the results.

(a) In windows 7: Elevated Command Prompt - Windows 7 Help Forums
[ Go to 'Here's How: > Step 3'. In the cmd prompt window type 'bcdedit' (without quotes ' ') and press 'enter'. To Copy the result :'click the top left small icon ( marked as yellow in the below attached image) > Edit > Select All'. Once selected press 'Ctrl+C' to copy the report, go where you want to paste it and press 'Ctrl+V' ]
View attachment 404419

(b) In windows 10 : Open Elevated Command Prompt in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
[ option 3. In the cmd prompt window same as in windows 7 ]

Report & let us know.

Thanks & Regards. ...

Hello again.
Sorry for being late to respond but i was busy at my job.


1.i have successfully disabled secure boot as you instructed me . It worked fine. However i wonder if it has any disadvantage on my pc in the future?


2. I did the bcdedit step and here are the results:
Win7:






Microsoft Windows [Version 6.1.7601]
Copyright (c) 2009 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Windows\system32>bcdedit

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume7
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {e5525293-7cc0-11e7-81ba-fa6823bef606}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.exe
description Windows 7
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {e5525293-7cc0-11e7-81ba-fa6823bef606}
nx OptIn

C:\Windows\system32>




And for win10:
Windows PowerShell
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

PS C:\Windows\system32> bcdedit

Windows Boot Manager
--------------------
identifier {bootmgr}
device partition=\Device\HarddiskVolume2
path \EFI\MICROSOFT\BOOT\BOOTMGFW.EFI
description Windows Boot Manager
locale en-US
inherit {globalsettings}
default {current}
resumeobject {c095c508-776e-11e8-a437-a111ef555d69}
displayorder {current}
toolsdisplayorder {memdiag}
timeout 30

Windows Boot Loader
-------------------
identifier {current}
device partition=C:
path \Windows\system32\winload.efi
description Windows 10
locale en-US
inherit {bootloadersettings}
recoverysequence {c095c50a-776e-11e8-a437-a111ef555d69}
displaymessageoverride Recovery
recoveryenabled Yes
isolatedcontext Yes
allowedinmemorysettings 0x15000075
osdevice partition=C:
systemroot \Windows
resumeobject {c095c508-776e-11e8-a437-a111ef555d69}
nx OptIn
bootmenupolicy Standard
PS C:\Windows\system32>






I cant thank you enough for your patience with me and i am looking forward to the next step.

 

[Snick]

Here's an article on Neosmart Knowledgebase

Disabling Secure Boot

 

[Vineet Garg]

Hi All,
Greets,
Sir/Madam,

1 Snick: Sir, Thanks for the link. But i would like to go deeper a little later!

Amina Alomari: Mam,

2.Please go back to ''BIOS Setup > Boot Menu > expand 'CSM' & get us a snap.

3.It is needed to show file extensions. It should be always helpful! Follow:
Hide or Show File Name Extensions in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
(Go for OPTION TWO)

4. we need to know your windows edition and system type ( 32/64 bit ) :
See System Information in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
(Go for OPTION THREE)

Thanks & Regards. ...

 

[Amina Alomari]

Hi All,
Greets,
Sir/Madam,

1 @Snick: Sir, Thanks for the link. But i would like to go deeper a little later!

@Amina Alomari: Mam,

2.Please go back to ''BIOS Setup > Boot Menu > expand 'CSM' & get us a snap.

3.It is needed to show file extensions. It should be always helpful! Follow:
Hide or Show File Name Extensions in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
(Go for OPTION TWO)

4. we need to know your windows edition and system type ( 32/64 bit ) :
See System Information in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
(Go for OPTION THREE)

Thanks & Regards. ...

Hello sir,

1- i turned on file extension viewer. But i dont know if you need something more from it.

2- my win 10 version is 64bit and so is my win 7.

3- the picture you requested is attached.


Thank you for your time.

 

[Megahertz07]

During POST, Del key launches BIOS options / config.
On a Asus MB, F8 launches the boot menu (without entering BIOS)

 

[Vineet Garg]

Hi All,
Greets,

1.During POST, Del key launches BIOS options / config.
On a Asus MB, F8 launches the boot menu (without entering BIOS) Amina Alomari : Mam, Take note of what Sir says. You can launch one time boot menu on your system by pressing F8 repeatedly as soon as you press the power button. We will need it in the near future.

2. And you should remove the letter from either OS when you`re booted into either OS, so they don`t see each other, unless for some reason you want them to
Now i came to understand what Sir AddRAM was saying. just have a look at your disks:



Here the red marked partitions are crucial system parts of each OS and they should not be touched from the other OS. Always take care. Never access from other OS for now. We would see whether we can permanently do that.
We can take that into account only after establishing our objective

3. Everything is well in BIOS.

4. Its done if you have enabled showing extensions.

5. We would be working mainly on windows 10 for now. Have & keep a good look on it. Be familiar & attentive with the drive letters assigned to each drive & partition from within windows 10. Even forget windows 7 for a while. Apart from that always follow the instructions.

6. The task would take a few more days. Because i have to take proper cover if something goes wrong so that we can revert back to present status. Whatever happens you will be always able to use windows 7 and revert back windows 10 to the present status.

7.We need to know what is the full edition name of windows 10 ? You are using english version ? We need to download that iso which would be about 4GB. Are you ready ?

Thanks & Regards. ...

 

[Barman58]

Take a look at EasyBCD which is free for personal use and should be able to easily setup your boot menu to load multiple operating systems

 

[Vineet Garg]

Take a look at EasyBCD which is free for personal use and should be able to easily setup your boot menu to load multiple operating systems

Thanks Sir, we are going to use the same !

Thanks & Regards. ...

 

[Amina Alomari]

Hi All,
Greets,

1.During POST, Del key launches BIOS options / config.
On a Asus MB, F8 launches the boot menu (without entering BIOS) @Amina Alomari : Mam, Take note of what Sir says. You can launch one time boot menu on your system by pressing F8 repeatedly as soon as you press the power button. We will need it in the near future.

2. And you should remove the letter from either OS when you`re booted into either OS, so they don`t see each other, unless for some reason you want them to
Now i came to understand what Sir AddRAM was saying. just have a look at your disks:

View attachment 404475

Here the red marked partitions are crucial system parts of each OS and they should not be touched from the other OS. Always take care. Never access from other OS for now. We would see whether we can permanently do that.
We can take that into account only after establishing our objective

3. Everything is well in BIOS.

4. Its done if you have enabled showing extensions.

5. We would be working mainly on windows 10 for now. Have & keep a good look on it. Be familiar & attentive with the drive letters assigned to each drive & partition from within windows 10. Even forget windows 7 for a while. Apart from that always follow the instructions.

6. The task would take a few more days. Because i have to take proper cover if something goes wrong so that we can revert back to present status. Whatever happens you will be always able to use windows 7 and revert back windows 10 to the present status.

7.We need to know what is the full edition name of windows 10 ? You are using english version ? We need to download that iso which would be about 4GB. Are you ready ?

Thanks & Regards. ...

Hello again mr. Vineet Garg,
My windows 10 version is windows 10 home, version 1709.
Os build 16299.15




Regarding the final point you mentioned .. i have my windows 10 on a DVD disc.like a virtual disk not an iso file.


For easybcd should i download it now? Or not?



Thank you again ..

 

[Vineet Garg]

Hi,
Greets,

Mam,
Be ready with a pen drive of 8gb or more capacity for dedicated use & make these downloads :

1) EasyBCD : Software Library - NeoSmart Technologies
( You need not register, just click the "DOWNLOAD!'' button)

2) Rufus Portable : Rufus - Create bootable USB drives the easy way
( go to the ''Download'' section & download Rufus 3.1 portable)

3) HashMyFiles : HashMyFiles: Calculate MD5/SHA1/CRC32 hash of files
(around bottom there will be ''Download HashMyFiles for 64 bit systems''


Get a new link yourself : TechBench by WZT (v4.1.1)
select your edition etc, take note of SHA-1 value and click/copy the download link. Every time the link will work for next 24 hours. Any problem in selection ? Just see/click the below image :

Let us know.

Thanks & Regards. ...

 

[Vineet Garg]

To be contd. ...
After above downloads :

1. check the integrity of the downloaded iso with HashMyFiles against the noted SHA-1 checksum.

(a) As you can see downloaded HashMyFiles is a zip. We need to extract it to a folder to actually use it. There are many good free extractor programs like 7-zip ( https://www.7-zip.org/download.html > x64.exe ). Its possible that there is already one on your windows 10.
OR
if you are not interested in installing, the other option is the inbuilt feature in windows 10 :
Unzip Files from Zipped Folder in Windows 10 | Windows 10 Tutorials
(check 'show extracted files when complete' )
OR
I have uploaded the extracted files here :
hashmyfiles-x64 - Google Drive
(download them one by one (3 files) & keep in a folder. )

b) After extraction, go in the extracted folder & launch HashMyFiles.exe. Then browse to the iso using 'File' menu item or simply drag & drop the iso in the window. The iso will take sometime to load & then checksums will appear. Now compare the SHA-1 with the noted one & its done !

2.

 

[Amina Alomari]

Hi,
Greets,


Get a new link yourself : TechBench by WZT (v4.1.1)
select your edition etc, take note of SHA-1 value and click/copy the download link. Every time the link will work for next 24 hours. Any problem in selection ? Just see/click the below image :

Let us know.

Thanks & Regards. ...

Hello , i doenloaded the first 3 programs .
But the 4th, is it win 10? Because if its so .. cant my cd work instead?
Also in options when i want to select edition (mine is win 10 home) while the availble edition is home china? So is the language options (only china simplified). So what to do here?


Thank you.

 

[SIW2]

Regular windows 10 iso includes both Pro and Home editions.

 

[Vineet Garg]

Hi All,
Greets,
Mam,
1.The attached image (above) tells you exactly what selections to make for your said version , just click the image and it will zoom ! No problem : This link will work for next 24 hours :
https://tb.rg-adguard.net/dl.php?go=11e91ad4
Download Info : File upload: 04/12/2018 14:00:16 GMT
File size: 4474.99 MB (4692365312 bytes)
Download: 1953247
SHA1: 08fbb24627fa768f869c09f44c5d6c1e53a57a6f

2.cant my cd work instead?
I don't know exactly what is there & If it is still good ?
What i meant by ''Dedicated pen drive'' is only that all the data will be deleted on it. Once our goal is achieved & everything goes well, you can use it for any other thing. Just keep Win 10 Iso handy & you can prepare media whenever required. That's all.

( The power was down here )

Thanks & Regards. ...

 

[Amina Alomari]

Hi All,
Greets,
Mam,
1.The attached image (above) tells you exactly what selections to make for your said version , just click the image and it will zoom ! No problem : This link will work for next 24 hours :
https://tb.rg-adguard.net/dl.php?go=11e91ad4
Download Info : File upload: 04/12/2018 14:00:16 GMT
File size: 4474.99 MB (4692365312 bytes)
Download: 1953247
SHA1: 08fbb24627fa768f869c09f44c5d6c1e53a57a6f

2.cant my cd work instead?
I don't know exactly what is there & If it is still good ?

( The power was down here )

Thanks & Regards. ...

Hello mr. Vinnet.
My installed win 10 version is 1709 not 1803.
Anyway i started downloading it , does that mean ill have to install windows 10 all over again?


And yes my cd is good i have used it 1 month ago. So i suppose it works fine.


Looking for your advice here , thanks a lot again.

 

[Amina Alomari]

Regular windows 10 iso includes both Pro and Home editions.

Well i remember the options availble when i made the setup were home only or pro only.
Anyway what scared me is china option