I HATE Windows Live Mail

[Barman58]

Just got Office 2007 so I'm starting to look at Outlook to see if its any better than Live, but so far its not looking very promising.

Come on now, Don't be a stick-in-the-mud, you need to look at office 2010

At £49 who's complaining.

PS. I've already looked and I can't see a lot of difference.

J/k and Office 2007 is a good application suite - I use 2007 and 2010 on a daily basis and although they do have a lot in common - I find 2010 just feels better for me

 

[fireberd]

I have Office 2003 and Outlook 2003 and I'm happy with 2003, although Office 2003 is getting "long in the tooth" as software goes. As a retiree, I can't justify buying Office 2010 just to get the latest version of Outlook, which from what I've seen is more like Windows Live Mail than the old Outlook. I'm not a fan of WLM which sort of looks like Hotmail and the "new improved" Hotmail is crap.

I've installed Thunderbird to see what it's like and I don't like it either.

 

[CarlTR6]

I am content with Office 2007 and Outlook 2007.

 

[wysiwyg]

I found Outlook is a lot slower, and makes it more complicated to add Email accounts, and cannot find a way to create separate identities, as it does in WLM, that does it automatically

 

[wysiwyg]

I'm not a fan of WLM which sort of looks like Hotmail and the "new improved" Hotmail is crap.

I'm a retiree as well, and I have 3 Email accounts 1 Pop and 2 Live in WLM, to me Outlook is archaic, and slow.

One shortcut on the Taskbar, and bang I have 3 indivual accounts at my fingertips, complete with all assocated folders.

 

[Darician]

I am very happy since they upgraded us at work about a month and a half ago from Office 2007 to Office 2010. Outlook 2010 is certainly an improvement for us as we use IMAP e-mail and 2007 sucks for handling it. As far as Windows Live Mail, I like the client, lightweight, nice interface and easy to setup accounts with it.

At home, I use Windows Live Mail.

 

[Barman58]

I found Outlook is a lot slower, and makes it more complicated to add Email accounts, and cannot find a way to create separate identities, as it does in WLM, that does it automatically

I'm not a fan of WLM which sort of looks like Hotmail and the "new improved" Hotmail is crap.

I'm a retiree as well, and I have 3 Email accounts 1 Pop and 2 Live in WLM, to me Outlook is archaic, and slow.

One shortcut on the Taskbar, and bang I have 3 indivual accounts at my fingertips, complete with all assocated folders.

I am currently running 7 separate accounts in Outlook 2010 and multiple calendars, todo lists Etc.
The most I've had to do to set up an account (all IMAP or Live Mail via Connector)' is enter the eMail address and password. These accounts are also synchronised accross multiple machines

 

[CarlTR6]

I found Outlook is a lot slower, and makes it more complicated to add Email accounts, and cannot find a way to create separate identities, as it does in WLM, that does it automatically

I was able to set up four separate identities in Outlook 2007 using subfolders under the inbox folder and using rules. It works fine.

 

[Barman58]

If I recall correctly the concept of identities was originated for multiple users on a single machine before the availability of user accounts in windows (windows 3.1 I know had something of this sort) - as with so much in windows this was retained long after it was actually needed. the easiest way to have multiple identities for email or anything else for that matter is to create individual windows user accounts for each identity

 

[padenfolk]

Windows Live Mail - blank emails going out

I too hate Windows Live Mail. I think I've resolved the issue with blocking text to copy and paste (Ctrl?), but a very annoying problem is this: when I click "Reply" in a newly opened message, my as yet unwritten reply is immediately sent out. I'm embarrassed at having to apologize for this so often.

Solutions, anyone?

 

[EchoX860]

I love WLM, I wouldn't have my mail come to me any other way.

 

[roncerr]

I too hate Windows Live Mail. I think I've resolved the issue with blocking text to copy and paste (Ctrl?), but a very annoying problem is this: when I click "Reply" in a newly opened message, my as yet unwritten reply is immediately sent out. I'm embarrassed at having to apologize for this so often.

Solutions, anyone?

You could try a repair reinstall by using the Windows Live Essentials listing in "Programs and Features" or by rerunning your original wlsetup-web.exe file. Uncheck the new stuff and let it repair the old (Mail). Be careful not to use the current file available from Microsoft unless you are ready to upgrade to the 2011 version with the ribbon.

 

[matoduri]

hello.

I have installed Windows Live Mail 2011 and I was just wondering if there is any way how to display recipients in sent folder when using two-line view. Every solution I found was only about one-line view where you can choose collumns to display.

 

[roncerr]

...any way how to display recipients in sent folder when using two-line view. Every solution I found was only about one-line view where you can choose collumns to display.

The two line view shows the recipients above the subject line. The recipients form the first line of two line view in sent folder. (At least that's the way it was in the version prior to 2011.) Are you saying that 2011 shows something else in the first line? What?

 

[matoduri]

In WLM 2011 in sent folder there is Subject in the first line and nothing in the second line. There is recipient in the second line only if the messages are part of a conversation (which is kinda weird).

 

[roncerr]

In WLM 2011 in sent folder there is Subject in the first line and nothing in the second line. There is recipient in the second line only if the messages are part of a conversation (which is kinda weird).

According to the screen shots in this link: Windows Live Mail 2011: Turn Off Conversation View | Windows | Tech-Recipes the recipient should appear on the second line whether conversation view is turned on or off. I haven't yet installed 2011 so I can't say what it does based on my own experience.

 

[ExpungedBob]

Why Bother?

Microsoft has a nasty habit of simply ending popular programs for something "new and improved" that they decide we will like "better." Whatever Microsoft does is like taking a completed picture puzzle, putting it back in the box, and mixing up the pieces for little or no apparent reason.

If a function is in an established place, why change the name AND location so we have to learn all over again?

So the question boils down to: do you want to, once again, go with the "new and improved," get used to it and get it running a way you want, only to have the rug pulled out from under you in a couple of years? Like "ribbons" in Microsoft Office, Hotmail, Windows Mail, etc etc?

Essentially, that's what this discussion is all about. Posters were using Windows Mail, and were happy with it. Then Microsoft decides to force everyone to go with Windows Live Mail.

Stop forcing things. If people are happy with Windows Mail, why not create a download so they can continue to use it if they want to, instead of working hard to try and convince people "it works the same way" if you only do this and that.

Remember, right now you have a happy Microsoft customer. If you end what they use to force them to learn another way, they may simply go with another vendor and use THEIR mail instead.

Like Gmail.

Think about it.

 

[PhreePhly]

Yea, like GMail hasn't changed its interface at all. It still looks...oh yea, it has changed

You do realize that MS receives TONS of usage data, right. Based on that usage data, they improve what is bothering THE MAJORITY of the users. Perfect example is the ribbon in Office. The old Menu pardigm has been in use for only 20 years. The problem with it was that for every new feature added to office, the menu item for it had to be hidden further and further into the abomination that was the old menu.

The Ribbon fixes that. Yes, it is different, but it is also far more efficient. And I know, it isn't efficient for you, but MS has far more objective evidence that proves otherwise. My organization just moved from Office 2003 to Office 2010 and I was expecting the hoards of malcontents screaming to me regarding the ribbon. I was shocked when I only got a few calls from our senior word processors, and their questions were more directed at features than the ribbon. I asked them how they liked the ribbon and the the usual answer was "meh" doesn't really matter, I use keyboard shortcuts, anyway. The people who loved the ribbon were the newer and not so experienced users.

 

[ExpungedBob]

Yeah,

How about that well researched change called "Vista?" I guess people just didn't understand all of the data that was collected calling for THOSE changes. (I LOVED the PC not shutting down but by default going into hibernation instead until I reconfigured this routine procedure. How many people called for THAT?)

The point is that many people, myself included, will never trust an online service with all of their data in a "cloud." One need only see what has happened with Facebook's "oopsie daisies" to understand why.

Why not have a choice? If people want to put their email and data in a "blind trust" with that "well researched" Microsoft "Live" (and who knows how long THAT will last until IT is shut down and we have to change everything .... AGAIN?), then by all means they should do it.

And if people do NOT want to throw caution to the wind, and prefer the software and copies of their email are kept on their PC, then they should be able to do that too.

Microsoft needs to stop abandoning software, and forcing people to switch over to "the new and improved way of the week."

Look at all of those sticking with Windows XP no matter HOW much better Windows 7 is. They rightfully saw Vista as a disaster, and took a "once burned twice shy" approach.

So it will be with the abysmal "Live."

 

[senojdr2]

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