Solved install.wim size variation

johoo

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I recently downloaded the Win7 x64 SP1 (August 2018) from Microsoft because my system could not boot and could not find mine. Recovery went fine, but I had to use USB to hold the .iso because it was >5GB and could not fit on a DVD. My original disc turned up so took a look at the pair to see the reason why <4GB was now >5GB.

One of the reasons is install.wim, it is 3,752,920,957 bytes on the DVD and 5,509,814,771 on the USB.

Does anyone have any idea what could account for almost 2GB of difference in size between OEM release and current download?
 

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(August 2018) is the clue.

You have downloaded the version containing updates till aug 2018. That is why it is bigger than the official last SP1 release.

We don't know why the 2018 version was created, or for whom. It is just a sysprepped version with those updates included - including telemetry. Some of those updates will have been superseded since. It also has only one rearm remaining.

It shouldn't matter - unless you want to do your own sysprepping, which is unlikely judging from your question.
 

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For what I know, M$ hasn't released any 2018 version. You have downloaded elsewhere.
As SIW2 has explained, is a M$ SP1 with updates added (sysprepped).

If you wish, we can give you a link to download Win 7 from M$.
 

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For what I know, M$ hasn't released any 2018 version.

As SIW2 has explained, it is a M$ SP1 with updates added (sysprepped).

You should never trust a modified ISO, you never know what has been added!
 

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    Samsung 226BW
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    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
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    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
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    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
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    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
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    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
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    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
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    500 Mb/s
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You should never trust a modified ISO, you never know what has been added!


There is a 2018 version. We don't know why MS made it, or who for.. No real point in getting it. Better to update it yourself. It is just a sysprepped version with updates to aug 2018. No other changes.

MS name:
7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_PROFESSIONAL_x64FRE_en-us.iso
 

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  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
There is a 2018 version. We don't know why MS made it, or who for.. No real point in getting it. Better to update it yourself. It is just a sysprepped version with updates to aug 2018. No other changes.

MS name:
7601.24214.180801-1700.win7sp1_ldr_escrow_CLIENT_PROFESSIONAL_x64FRE_en-us.iso

I would suspect that it includes all the Telemetry updates!
 

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Win 7 HP SP1 64-bit Vista HB SP2 32-bit Linux Mint 18.3
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Intel(R) Pentium(R) CPU P6200 @ 2.13GHz
Motherboard
FUJITSU FJNBB06
Memory
4.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
Intel(R) Graphics Media Accelerator HD
Sound Card
[1] Realtek High Definition Audio [2] Intel(R) Display Audio
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 59 Hz
Hard Drives
TOSHIBA MK5076GSX
Antivirus
AVG FREE
> It shouldn't matter

I agree, I was just curious about the near 50% growth in the ISO.

> For what I know, M$ hasn't released any 2018 version. You have downloaded elsewhere.

There is "...an easy and comfortable way to download genuine Windows 7, 8.1 and 10, as well as Office 2007, 2010 and 2011 disk images (ISO) directly from Microsoft's servers" described at Microsoft Windows ISO Download Tool 8.06 Download - TechSpot

Microsoft Windows and Office ISO Download Tool was a whole lot friendlier than Microsoft.

> If you wish, we can give you a link to download Win 7 from M$.

If the link requires a license key then it won't help any because https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7 only lets you download IF you have a key that suits Microsoft. I tried keys from several people at the office, all from PCs purchased by the company, and NONE of the keys were accepted. There were three different rejection reasons:

We encountered a problem with your request. Please visit Microsoft
Support Contact Us page for assistance. Refer to Message Code
715-123130 and Transaction ID xxxxxxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxxxxxxxxxx.

The product key you entered is invalid or not supported by this site.
Please contact Microsoft Support for assistance.

The product key you entered appears to be for software pre-installed
by the device manufacturer. Please contact the device manufacturer
for software

If you can find the "Microsoft Support Contact Us" page which can assist then I'd be pleased to have it. Google 715-123130 you will find lots of threads by people who could not find a Microsoft answer/explanation.

I wondered if Clean Reinstall Windows 7 - Microsoft Community explained why my key did not work, it says "...the Windows 7 Product Key found by Belarc or another key finder will be an SLP batch key used at factory, if it has not yet been activated from COA sticker Key used for a Clean Reinstall. This SLP batch key cannot be used for reinstall."

> As SIW2 has explained, is a M$ SP1 with updates added (sysprepped).

My Win7 was current and it had not grown by almost 2GB in the last couple of years.

> You should never trust a modified ISO, you never know what has been added!

Microsoft has done 'builds' on ISOs for years, available to those who are in the "Windows Insider Program". Each build includes the latest updates. Those are modified ISOs, and you don't know everything that was added. The program is for developers, so it does not affect users.

If you guys are so sure I have a non-Microsoft ISO and have keys that Microsoftdownload will accept, use https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/software-download/windows7 to download what Microsoft is distributing and do the same again with heidoc.net and compare.
 

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SSD 500GB
1TB
Good to know SIW2, that's the same download that heidocs.net gave me.

I guess that closes this thread out, the ISO is legit and it contains 2GB of updates...
 

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SSD 500GB
1TB

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  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    custom build
    OS
    Windows 7 HP 64
    CPU
    i5 6600K - 800MHz to 4200MHz
    Motherboard
    GA-Z170-HD3P
    Memory
    4+4G GSkill DDR4 3000
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG - Intel 530
    Monitor(s) Displays
    Samsung 226BW
    Screen Resolution
    1680x1050
    Hard Drives
    (1) -1 SM951 – 128GB M.2 AHCI PCIe SSD drive for Windows 7 and Lubuntu
    (2) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for Data
    (3) -1 WD SATA 3 - 1T for backup
    PSU
    Thermaltake 450W TR2 gold
    Keyboard
    Old and good Chicony mechanical keyboard
    Mouse
    Logitech mX performance - 9 buttons (had to disable some)
    Internet Speed
    500Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox 64
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Asus Q550LF
    OS
    Windows 7 Pro
    CPU
    i7-4500U 800MHz to 3.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Q550LF
    Memory
    (4+4)G DDR3 1600
    Graphics Card(s)
    IG intel 4400 + NVIDIA GeForce GT 745M
    Sound Card
    Realtek
    Monitor(s) Displays
    LG Display LP156WF4-SPH1
    Screen Resolution
    1920 x 1080
    Hard Drives
    BX500 120G SSD for Windows and programs +
    1T HDD for data
    Internet Speed
    500 Mb/s
    Browser
    Firefox
    Other Info
    TinyWall firewall
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