I just want there to be some good competition. Without AMD we'd have $1000 dollar CPU's ONLY from Intel Nothing under a Grand.
Very true. It's great there are viable alternatives which force the prices down.
I'm currently partial to intel chips because realistically, they do offer a better 'all round' performance (especially when overclocked) than AMD chips.
For that, I'm willing to pay a few $$$ extra. However if AMD were to offer a clear i7 stomper, I'd make the switch.
and same thing with graphics cards by Nvidia.
Unfortunately, here in Australia 480's are selling for $800-$900 (with extremely limited availability). A 5970 is available for around $900 which currently makes a 480 a far less attractive proposition from a pure price vs performance perspective.
However, a 5870 which originally cost $800 at launch can now be be had for $450-$600+ with much greater availability. Due to the late Fermi's, it only took about 7 months to get this point - but at least it got there
I'm glad ATI has a great round this year and even beat them to the punch. I don't have any brand loyalty.
lol, ditto. Although I would have liked to see Fermi make it sooner rather than later (I'm definitely not the only one there)
People asking General questions about the 470/480 will have 10 different ATI owners thread crap and say rude things and bash the thread.
It's got so out of hand I've been avoiding the Nvidia section for a while at most forums I go to.
That's part of 'shoe on the other foot'. It was always 10 nvidia vs one ATI
As much as I see your post making sense, in the same manor I think many of the ATI people have been let down, and let down. or once again not got the better product. or whatever it may be for so long the last few years and had to hear it from the nvidia guys or whatever. That NOW that ati finally has this Stellar product. Beat the competition to the market. and still looks to be in a great position. The ATI owners finally are getting there first solid chance to go after everyone that buys Nvidia. And personally. They've been going a little to hard. and need to tone it down a bit. I'm fine with people defending there purchases and stuff. But it almost seems like the anger the ATI owners have is much worse this time around and they've been being pretty out of control
Again, the shoe analogy fits (pun intended
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However there is more vitriol from ATI users because of years worth of pent up frustration. They've waited a long time to feel smug and as such, are delivering it back to nvidia users in spades.
(In some cases, it's probably well deserved)
When a pendulum swings, there are always extremes. Currently the pendulum's upswing apogee is on ATI's side and it's going to take quite a while for it to swing back and settle back down.
In the meantime, we all have to tolerate the FUD that goes with it
Buy what you want, or what suits your likes or needs and enjoy it.
It is possible to do that - but to remain crap free requires virtually zero forum activity
What I find most ironic is that every ATI user just comes in with the argument "Nvidia took too long", but look at ATI with the 2900. That was delayed for quite a long time, Nvidia got the DX10 cards out first, ATI finally launched the 2900, only to have it be a disappointment compared to Nvidia, by which time Nvidia had launched the 8800 Ultra, which pretty much stole the limelight.
People have very short memories. This latest Fermi round will end up as just another semi-remembered tit for tat argument point for future 'debates'.
Imo, I don't mind how long each side take, they can take how long as they want, and at the end of the day what they release is what matters as a whole.
If they do take their time - at least keep the hype and rumour/speculations down to a low level of 'STFU already'.
I honestly don't know what's worse - arguing about an an actual product or arguing about a speculation
