Microsoft silently preparing your PC for Win 10

[ThrashZone]

Yep 10 will be lucky to match x-p numbers
I just got reminded I only have a 8 pro upgrade key so 10 is effectively not an option
I'm relieved to tell the truth,
Although 8 full version is I believe 101.us at Amazon I have a new build in mind and that's all that matters at this point to me = the probably 2k in funds to complete it lol
Already have a 7 64 bit oem waiting for it.

 

[groze]

Yep 10 will be lucky to match x-p numbers
I just got reminded I only have a 8 pro upgrade key so 10 is effectively not an option
I'm relieved to tell the truth,
Although 8 full version is I believe 101.us at Amazon I have a new build in mind and that's all that matters at this point to me = the probably 2k in funds to complete it lol
Already have a 7 64 bit oem waiting for it.

Well you could upgrade to 8 to 8.1 then to 10.

 

[ThrashZone]

lol at the sacrifice of a much better more reliable and hardware compatible 7 = not going to happen

New build :/
By the time I hope to finish it might time out right but drastic changes to 10 will have to be seen built in I'm not relying on third parties to pick up the slack.

 

[eatup]

I've been reading benchmarks for WX are worse than W8.1. It's kind of funny MSFT trying to get W7 users 2 upgrade. W7 is already a slug compared to XP. I wager WX will be even more so...

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

...W7 is already a slug compared to XP...

You have to be kidding. I've had several XP machines and now have several Win 7 machines. The Win 7 machines beat the holy hairy heck out of the XP machines. The only way Win 7 would be a slug compared to XP is if it was installed on an old XP machine without enough CPU power and/or it has inadequate RAM.

 

[whs]

It is true though that WX boot time is quite as long as W8.1 - in exactly the same environment. At least that's what Event 100 says.

 

[ThrashZone]

Win-10 take away the lock screen and it's even slower

 

[carwiz]

I've been reading benchmarks for WX are worse than W8.1. It's kind of funny MSFT trying to get W7 users 2 upgrade. W7 is already a slug compared to XP. I wager WX will be even more so...

What benchmarks? Do you have a link?

What time I spent on the W10-TP, the little it did it did it fast. And I ran it under VBox and VMware.

 

[whs]

I've been reading benchmarks for WX are worse than W8.1. It's kind of funny MSFT trying to get W7 users 2 upgrade. W7 is already a slug compared to XP. I wager WX will be even more so...

What benchmarks? Do you have a link?

What time I spent on the W10-TP, the little it did it did it fast. And I ran it under VBox and VMware.

Check Event 100 in Event Viewer and compare to 8.1 or 7.

 

[carwiz]

That's the boot event. I thought we were talking about the general speed of the W10 OS. Some people don't reboot/turn-off their machines so boot time is of little concern. That's hardly a valid point with a preview version anyway. My 8.0TP expired so it won't even start. I don't have a copy of 8.1 so perhaps someone can post the Event 100s from the different versions on the same machine? We could see where the delays are happening. I know my W7 boot time more than doubled when I added the TV card so it's important to compare times on the same machine/hardware.

 

[whs]

My W8.1 and W10 run on the same VMware Player. That's what I compared.

 

[jamis]

I just read a PCWorld article that claims that W10 will be a continuous series of weekly or biweekly build releases after the official release date, like Office. W10 is to be a free upgrade for W7, W8, & W8.1 users for the first year. After that, a subscription is required for future "builds". I guess I wasn't paying attention before, so if this is old news, I apologize.

Windows forever: Windows 10 builds will continue even after Microsoft ships it | PCWorld

 

[whs]

I think PC World is speculation. MS has not yet announced what is going to happen after W10 RTM and what the pricing scheme is going to be. But I would not be amazed if they did in fact come up with a yearly fee for the updates. That would give them a steady cash flow.

 

[carwiz]

Sounds like he's confusing the Technical Preview releases (now called Insider Preview) with a production release scheme. Sounds crazy to me and too much like Linux with it's daily updates. That would definitely be a deal breaker to me. Who has time to download a 4GB ISO every few days?

 

[groze]

Sounds like he's confusing the Technical Preview releases (now called Insider Preview) with a production release scheme. Sounds crazy to me and too much like Linux with it's daily updates. That would definitely be a deal breaker to me. Who has time to download a 4GB ISO every few days?

Carwiz,

Linux updates are not 4 gb every day unless you are doing beta testing for the next release. In fact, I always wait about a week to update my Linux partition. The size of the updates very. Most days no updates, the maximum update I have seen is 300 megabytes but most run under 80 megabytes or lower.

 

[lehnerus2000]

Sounds like he's confusing the Technical Preview releases (now called Insider Preview) with a production release scheme. Sounds crazy to me and too much like Linux with it's daily updates. That would definitely be a deal breaker to me. Who has time to download a 4GB ISO every few days?

Carwiz,

Linux updates are not 4 gb every day unless you are doing beta testing for the next release. In fact, I always wait about a week to update my Linux partition. The size of the updates very. Most days no updates, the maximum update I have seen is 300 megabytes but most run under 80 megabytes or lower.

I think carwiz meant if the W10 Release version updates were like the current W10TP updates.

 

[groze]

Sounds like he's confusing the Technical Preview releases (now called Insider Preview) with a production release scheme. Sounds crazy to me and too much like Linux with it's daily updates. That would definitely be a deal breaker to me. Who has time to download a 4GB ISO every few days?

Carwiz,

Linux updates are not 4 gb every day unless you are doing beta testing for the next release. In fact, I always wait about a week to update my Linux partition. The size of the updates very. Most days no updates, the maximum update I have seen is 300 megabytes but most run under 80 megabytes or lower.

I think carwiz meant if the W10 Release version updates were like the current W10TP updates.

Okay

 

[eatup]

Does anyone else think WX is just a mockup of the real show stopper down the road? They know full well, enterprise will continue to be on W7 (just like XP) until end of extended support. They know full well there are countless "hardcore" W7 users who will refuse to upgrade. Hence, they're giving away WX free now b/c it's just a protype/they're testing the water. WX looks ugly as hell b/c it's just that, a transitionary OS in the likes of W95, where XP was the killer deal a few years later.

The real "Windows One" will come in 2020 after they've studied the market a little more?!?!

 

[ThrashZone]

I wouldn't go as far as ugly but isn't as pretty as 7 is out of the box,
Once you get rid of all the unneeded apps it's just another touch screen created os
Issue is if you really don't need a touch friendly interface when your not interested in it or not using a touch compatible display :/

Windows knows this but installs an interface anyway which M$ will not develop a real alternative to that which is really just throwing desktops to the third party wolves because it's focused on selling cell phone and surface's which would need a touch interface.

So yes it's another win-8-8.1 expansion with little to offer mouse users in the name of change,
Start menu is another start screen which was better in 8.1 than in win-10
So I see 10 as a net gain of zero personally
8.1 and start8 is just as good if not better than 10 and start10 except for another 5.us for start10

Although free classic shell is looking like the go to for more edits,
Problem is the re-installing of either after every 10 update possibly ???
Is 10 worth the squeeze for the juice even if it's free ?
Jury still out for me not for a while yet to worry about it.

 

[whs]

Towards the end of the year it will be interesting to see what the millions of desktop users that fell for the free upgrade will say. My guess would be that we will get a lot of requests on how to get back to W7. The W8.1 users may have less problems.