Microsoft to stop producing Windows versions

[MilesAhead]

MS still has to maintain some order of updates even if there's no real "version". Unless they make updates mandatory (automatic with no choice), some may choose not to update and that state of the OS would have to be known.

There has been a lot of talk suggesting that W10 updates will be automatic and mandatory.

Nobody gives stuff for nothing for nothing.

 

[alphanumeric]

MS still has to maintain some order of updates even if there's no real "version". Unless they make updates mandatory (automatic with no choice), some may choose not to update and that state of the OS would have to be known.

There has been a lot of talk suggesting that W10 updates will be automatic and mandatory.

Nobody gives stuff for nothing for nothing.

Mandatory Updates, if it happens, has nothing to do with the free upgrade offer by the way. If that's what your implying. Paid for versions of Windows 10 will have the same restriction imposed on them. Just saying.

 

[MilesAhead]

There has been a lot of talk suggesting that W10 updates will be automatic and mandatory.

Nobody gives stuff for nothing for nothing.

Mandatory Updates, if it happens, has nothing to do with the free upgrade offer by the way. If that's what your implying. Paid for versions of Windows 10 will have the same restriction imposed on them. Just saying.

That may be a good topic for feedback. Suggest paid versions of 10 be autonomous in that regard.

On the upside I hear there was a lot of feedback asking for Glass on 10.

 

[alphanumeric]

Nobody gives stuff for nothing for nothing.

Mandatory Updates, if it happens, has nothing to do with the free upgrade offer by the way. If that's what your implying. Paid for versions of Windows 10 will have the same restriction imposed on them. Just saying.

That may be a good topic for feedback. Suggest paid versions of 10 be autonomous in that regard.

On the upside I hear there was a lot of feedback asking for Glass on 10.

Too hard to police and just another thing for those getting the free update to gripe over. IMHO Because you know some are going cry that its not fair etc. Feed back all you want though, you never know.

 

[MilesAhead]

Mandatory Updates, if it happens, has nothing to do with the free upgrade offer by the way. If that's what your implying. Paid for versions of Windows 10 will have the same restriction imposed on them. Just saying.

That may be a good topic for feedback. Suggest paid versions of 10 be autonomous in that regard.

On the upside I hear there was a lot of feedback asking for Glass on 10.

Too hard to police and just another thing for those getting the free update to gripe over. IMHO Because you know some are going cry that its not fair etc. Feed back all you want though, you never know.

"Feedback" is an interesting term. Before Jimi Hendrix it was an inadvertent noise to be ignored. He made it into music.

 

[groze]

What about just putting your device or computer on metered connection, this seems to to stop the updating in windows 10 preview? I don't know if this will work for the windows 10 rtm if any or the windows 10 release to consumers coming out on July 29

 

[alphanumeric]

What about just putting your device or computer on metered connection, this seems to to stop the updating in windows 10 preview? I don't know if this will work for the windows 10 rtm if any or the windows 10 release to consumers coming out on July 29

That might slow other things down in the process? Video streaming etc. Just a guess.

 

[RoasterMen]

Well, this is unfortunate. My Samsung will still keep it's Windows 7 as it is it's limit. If you look at my specs you'll see what i mean. This computer i still gonna be at Windows 7 because everything i need is here.

If you look CLOSELY into my system's specs, Mine is obviously limited to Windows 7 XD

 

[FerchogtX]

Forced automatic updates sounds quite risky... remember those updates that rendered Windows 8 unusable or gave Black Screens? And what about those updates for Windows 7 that did almost the same?... If this happens with Windows 10, Microsoft will pay for that error...

I hope they get back at their senses...

 

[Lady Fitzgerald]

Forced automatic updates sounds quite risky... remember those updates that rendered Windows 8 unusable or gave Black Screens? And what about those updates for Windows 7 that did almost the same?... If this happens with Windows 10, Microsoft will pay for that error...

I hope they get back at their senses...

What worries me more is M$ would enforce actual changes to Win 10, much like Win 8.0 users were pretty much forced to update to 8.1 or no longer be able to receive certain updates, no matter if they liked the newer one or not. In the past, if people liked an OS but didn't like the next one, they could stay with the older until its EOL.

 

[FerchogtX]

Forced automatic updates sounds quite risky... remember those updates that rendered Windows 8 unusable or gave Black Screens? And what about those updates for Windows 7 that did almost the same?... If this happens with Windows 10, Microsoft will pay for that error...

I hope they get back at their senses...

What worries me more is M$ would enforce actual changes to Win 10, much like Win 8.0 users were pretty much forced to update to 8.1 or no longer be able to receive certain updates, no matter if they liked the newer one or not. In the past, if people liked an OS but didn't like the next one, they could stay with the older until its EOL.

Pretty much the same fear I have, sadly... This could mean shoving into our throats a totally annoying tablet mode for desktops once we are all trapped in this...

 

[whs]

For me, the automatic updates would be a showstopper. I would never use such a system as my workhorse. We know how often they have bricked Windows with an update and there is no reason to believe that this will not happen in the future. People make mistakes - that is quite normal. Imposing automatic updates is one of them.

 

[alphanumeric]

Forced automatic updates sounds quite risky... remember those updates that rendered Windows 8 unusable or gave Black Screens? And what about those updates for Windows 7 that did almost the same?... If this happens with Windows 10, Microsoft will pay for that error...

I hope they get back at their senses...

What worries me more is M$ would enforce actual changes to Win 10, much like Win 8.0 users were pretty much forced to update to 8.1 or no longer be able to receive certain updates, no matter if they liked the newer one or not. In the past, if people liked an OS but didn't like the next one, they could stay with the older until its EOL.

Pretty much the same fear I have, sadly... This could mean shoving into our throats a totally annoying tablet mode for desktops once we are all trapped in this...

To no control over added features or GUI changes. I have a feeling I'm not going to like some of the changes. Time will tell. I can easily just go back to 8.1 if it happens that they change something and I really don't like it.

 

[groze]

What worries me more is M$ would enforce actual changes to Win 10, much like Win 8.0 users were pretty much forced to update to 8.1 or no longer be able to receive certain updates, no matter if they liked the newer one or not. In the past, if people liked an OS but didn't like the next one, they could stay with the older until its EOL.

Pretty much the same fear I have, sadly... This could mean shoving into our throats a totally annoying tablet mode for desktops once we are all trapped in this...

To no control over added features or GUI changes. I have a feeling I'm not going to like some of the changes. Time will tell. I can easily just go back to 8.1 if it happens that they change something and I really don't like it.

alphanumeric
Do you know how often windows 10 consumer build release will be? If it is once a month there could be issues with people that have slow high speed and bandwidth limits. A build release should be released every year not every month with the option to roll back if there is issues. Otherwise, I can see sites popping up on how to block windows update using the host file or third party software.

 

[alphanumeric]

I don't know anymore than you do. I haven't been privy to any secrete Microsoft insider info, if that's what your wondering. Even if I was, as an MVP, I'm bound by my NDA, non disclosure agreement, so I can't comment on it until somebody else leaks it. At the moment though, I don't know anything that falls under "I wish I could tell" anyway.

 

[newpgm]

I'm no Guru (D'oh) like others here but I did sleep at Holiday Inn Express last night

As an average user I wonder if MS & Google (other tech giants) realize what the average user community wants? Have been following some threads related to Outlook & Skype on MS Answers forum & there are some very angry users out there. For years this has been an issue, MS apparently not listening to the community. We don't all use Skype.

Hotmail was a fantastic product, one of MS's best. We were forced onto Outlook.

It appears Outlook.com on my Android is going away in favor of Microsoft Outlook. Most reviews I have read for Microsoft Outlook are bad. MS bought Acompli & now must make use of it. Check out the comments on the App Store, many people complaining of loss of functionality.

Windows 10 has very little appeal for me, feel like I just became comfortable with Win 7 in the past couple years. Did not install Win 7 until it had been out for a while. Win Vista wasn't that bad, of course not nearly as good as Win 7. I am always behind the in-crowd. Many of my relatives still run XP & are in no hurry to upgrade. They don't like change.
Just read another post here that the US Navy is paying to extend the life of XP. My dentist still runs XP :sarc:

Even Google is now screwing with my Google+ page & it's annoying. Not to mention they are also trying to force us onto Hangouts, Google Chat worked great. Better than Hangouts for my purposes.

My point, thru all the whining, is how tedious. Not all of us have time to keep up with this constant barrage of change. Life gets in the way.

I have been installing Linux/Ubuntu systems on older (XP) PC's for some time now. It works great for email, surfing & online shopping. Of course there are still things I need Windows to run but for a second PC it's great. Bit too much "Aw, Snap!" but hey for an OS they only ask a $16 donation to download

While watching Mr. Robot last night found it somewhat amusing that I actually could keep up the discussion = Gnome desktop, root directory, DNS references, et al. that I suspect was supposed to wow the audience. Perhaps I too can be a Guru one day

 

[MilesAhead]

Hotmail was a fantastic product, one of MS's best. We were forced onto Outlook.

I was on Hotmail for several years before MS bought it. They spiffed up the interface a bit and increased the storage. Otherwise it is basically the same except for the demand for a mobile phone number to maintain access to the account you have had for years.

Since many free WiFi providers block ftp OneDrive lets me back up when it would otherwise not be possible. But for the email part all that was really needed was to increase the storage allotment as everything online gets bigger over time including attachments.

If you keep Linuxin' on down you will be a guru. Read up on the scripts that the control applets use to really do the work and you are most of the way there. (Stuff like the start up scripts and settings in /etc folder. One example: /etc/fstab ) :banghead:

 

[groze]

@MilesAhead

You can actually change that to another non-Microsoft email and you don't need to provide a mobile phone. That how I had been using window 10 preview and our outlook emails.

 

[newpgm]

If you keep Linuxin' on down you will be a guru. Read up on the scripts that the control applets use to really do the work and you are most of the way there. (Stuff like the start up scripts and settings in /etc folder. One example: /etc/fstab ) :banghead:

Yay!
Do feel like my computer knowledge has taken a leap forward since I began to play with Linux.

 

[MilesAhead]

If you keep Linuxin' on down you will be a guru. Read up on the scripts that the control applets use to really do the work and you are most of the way there. (Stuff like the start up scripts and settings in /etc folder. One example: /etc/fstab ) :banghead:

Yay!
Do feel like my computer knowledge has taken a leap forward since I began to play with Linux. Had some Unix experience (very little) back in the day when I worked for a large Telecom Co, should have stuck with it

Heh heh. With these new easy Linux installs the young whippersnappers think all you do is pick what you want, reboot, and up comes XWindows when you log in. But it wasn't always that way. The first time I got X going I had a book how to configure it, downloaded the libraries, modified the example lisp configuration file until the thing would load without crashing, and just did a lot of trial and error. I ripped my hair out quite a bit. But that's how I learned. The install got you to 6 virtual terminals in console mode. Plus back then not everything was PCI buss. Once PCI won the bus wars it simplified things.

Just installing a browser and getting it to work with online media was a big deal.