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ZippoLag

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Alright, here goes the tale of how I ended up hating myself for not making a backup last week as I had planned:

My hard disk layout is pretty simple, I have a 500gb Western Digital as main drive, a 500gb Maxtor where I keep pretty much everything, and an older and not totally relyable 300gb Maxtor that remains unplugged except when I need the extra storage momentairly (all SATA).

So, I had the PC powered off, plugged out my dvd drive to plug in a friend's hdd (IDE) and unplugged my 500gb maxtor to plug in the 300gb. Booted up, moved some files between the forementioned disks, and then, I remembered I needed something I had on my 500gb Maxtor (currently unplugged), so believing that SATA drives could be hot plugged/unplugged, and pulled out the 300gb and placed in the 500gb one, that's when it all began.

Opening the D drive (where the 300gb was, and now 500gb should be), showed the file structure of the 300gb disk, refreshing did nothing and I dared not to open any file. Realizing I had just effed up I decided to restart, thinking everything should come out right then. For my surprise, when booting up, before windows, a commandline message that I had never seen showed up, it was pretty much like when you schedule a ScanDisk for startup, but it said something about indexes needing correction or something along the lines (can't remember quite right). After some blaspheming and thanking Windows7 for realizing I had broken whatever it was I broke, I gave it my nod of approval and let the thing run. And it ran for about half an hour, spewing out line after line of numbers and occassionally (quite regularly actually) filenames and paths, wich kind of made me raise an eyebrow, but hey, it was some system proccess that was running, so I just let it go.

Now, I went ahead to throw some 15 gigs into that 500gb maxtor disk, and when finishing the copy I realized: there was *way* too much free space on that disk! After a quick look I discovered that *many* folders and files were missing! I've tried "GetDataBack for NTFS" but recovering all that data manually and checking what's been deleted and what not is going to be a real pain, so.. Does anyone know some sort of fix for this? I mean, if I hadn't had that proccess run I would still have all that data! Just what was that?!

Thanks in advance, I'm really clueless on this one.
 

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Realtek High Definition Audio
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"500"GB FUJITSU MAXTOR STM3500320AS ATA Device (IDE)
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Alright, here goes the tale of how I ended up hating myself for not making a backup last week as I had planned:

My hard disk layout is pretty simple, I have a 500gb Western Digital as main drive, a 500gb Maxtor where I keep pretty much everything, and an older and not totally relyable 300gb Maxtor that remains unplugged except when I need the extra storage momentairly (all SATA).

So, I had the PC powered off, plugged out my dvd drive to plug in a friend's hdd (IDE) and unplugged my 500gb maxtor to plug in the 300gb. Booted up, moved some files between the forementioned disks, and then, I remembered I needed something I had on my 500gb Maxtor (currently unplugged), so believing that SATA drives could be hot plugged/unplugged, and pulled out the 300gb and placed in the 500gb one, that's when it all began.

Opening the D drive (where the 300gb was, and now 500gb should be), showed the file structure of the 300gb disk, refreshing did nothing and I dared not to open any file. Realizing I had just effed up I decided to restart, thinking everything should come out right then. For my surprise, when booting up, before windows, a commandline message that I had never seen showed up, it was pretty much like when you schedule a ScanDisk for startup, but it said something about indexes needing correction or something along the lines (can't remember quite right). After some blaspheming and thanking Windows7 for realizing I had broken whatever it was I broke, I gave it my nod of approval and let the thing run. And it ran for about half an hour, spewing out line after line of numbers and occassionally (quite regularly actually) filenames and paths, wich kind of made me raise an eyebrow, but hey, it was some system proccess that was running, so I just let it go.

Now, I went ahead to throw some 15 gigs into that 500gb maxtor disk, and when finishing the copy I realized: there was *way* too much free space on that disk! After a quick look I discovered that *many* folders and files were missing! I've tried "GetDataBack for NTFS" but recovering all that data manually and checking what's been deleted and what not is going to be a real pain, so.. Does anyone know some sort of fix for this? I mean, if I hadn't had that proccess run I would still have all that data! Just what was that?!

Thanks in advance, I'm really clueless on this one.

Have you tried turning on the display of hidden files and folders? CHKDSK usualy recovers files into a series of hidden folders on the root of a drive...

..also you are correct if assuming that SATA is hot-swappable. This is true ONLY if your motherboard SATA controller is set to AHCI mode. Just use caution in changing this option in bios, because if your Windows was installed to a SATA drive when the controller was perhaps set to "IDE-Compatibility" mode in the bios, then you are going to screwup the Windows installation. The only trouble with setting things to AHCI mode is that you'll have "Safely Remove Hardware" options for ALL your sata drives in the notification area of the taskbar. Which is what you want, right?
 

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Windows 7 Professional 32-bit SP1
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Intel Corporation 440BX Desktop Reference Platform
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VMware SVGA 3D
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Generic Non-PnP Monitor on VMware SVGA 3D
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Interesting, my disks are indeed on IDE mode, so that explains the hotswapping problem..

Now, I've checked and there are no hidden folders or files, and scandisk claims everything's allright.

Anyways, thanks.
 

My Computer

OS
MS Windows Server 2008 R2
CPU
AMD Phenom X3 8650
Motherboard
MSI MS-7374
Memory
Kingston 2.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz 6-6-6-18
Graphics Card(s)
512MB GeForce 9500 GT (XFX Pine Group)
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
SyncMaster 2243lnx @ 1680x1050
Hard Drives
"500"GB FUJITSU MAXTOR STM3500320AS ATA Device (IDE)
"500"GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00H2B0 ATA Device (IDE)
"300"GB Western Digital WDC ATA Device (IDE)
PSU
Cooler Master 650W
Case
COOLER MASTER 609
It sounds that you had a bunch of orphaned files that the system has purged. At the time, you may have been able to fix the MFT from the mirror. But as things stand, the orphaned files are probably gone for good. Sorry
 

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Hard lesson to learn man :( I feel for you.


Steve
 

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Interesting, my disks are indeed on IDE mode, so that explains the hotswapping problem..

Now, I've checked and there are no hidden folders or files, and scandisk claims everything's allright.

Anyways, thanks.

The best I can do for you is recommend R-Studio. It helped me a fews years back when my old motherboard failed, and the replacement did not support RAID JBOD. R-Studio built a "virtual" JBOD from the 3 hard drives, and I was able to recover about 80% of the lost data.

It may work even better for you, since the data is only on 1 drive...
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
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Virtual Machine
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Windows 7 Professional 32-bit SP1
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AMD A4/A6
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Intel Corporation 440BX Desktop Reference Platform
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3.00GB EDO
Graphics Card(s)
VMware SVGA 3D
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
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Generic Non-PnP Monitor on VMware SVGA 3D
Screen Resolution
1440x900
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1 x 60GB VMware Virtual SATA Hard Drive ATA Device
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Kaspersky Total Security
Thanks to all.

GetDataBack for NTFS sounds like a rel pain (for what the report shows), so I'm currently analizing with Recuva, and if it doesn't look pretty either, I'll try R-Studio.
 

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OS
MS Windows Server 2008 R2
CPU
AMD Phenom X3 8650
Motherboard
MSI MS-7374
Memory
Kingston 2.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz 6-6-6-18
Graphics Card(s)
512MB GeForce 9500 GT (XFX Pine Group)
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
SyncMaster 2243lnx @ 1680x1050
Hard Drives
"500"GB FUJITSU MAXTOR STM3500320AS ATA Device (IDE)
"500"GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00H2B0 ATA Device (IDE)
"300"GB Western Digital WDC ATA Device (IDE)
PSU
Cooler Master 650W
Case
COOLER MASTER 609
Alrighty, I was checking and, even tho I could see hidden files, I hadn't checked the box for showing 'system protected files', doing that made a folder named "found.000" appear, wich seems to contain about 300gb of my lost data! (wich explains why the disk doesn't have that much disk space considering the amount of files missing). Now, assorting the files and folders in there is going to be some long work -tho nothing compared to having to "undelete" the data- since most folders have their names replaced to "dir0000.chk" and such, but before I start I wonder: can I just cut and paste the files in there to another folder in the same drive and everything should be fine? or is there some other precaution I should take?
 

My Computer

OS
MS Windows Server 2008 R2
CPU
AMD Phenom X3 8650
Motherboard
MSI MS-7374
Memory
Kingston 2.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz 6-6-6-18
Graphics Card(s)
512MB GeForce 9500 GT (XFX Pine Group)
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
SyncMaster 2243lnx @ 1680x1050
Hard Drives
"500"GB FUJITSU MAXTOR STM3500320AS ATA Device (IDE)
"500"GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00H2B0 ATA Device (IDE)
"300"GB Western Digital WDC ATA Device (IDE)
PSU
Cooler Master 650W
Case
COOLER MASTER 609
Alrighty, I was checking and, even tho I could see hidden files, I hadn't checked the box for showing 'system protected files', doing that made a folder named "found.000" appear, wich seems to contain about 300gb of my lost data! (wich explains why the disk doesn't have that much disk space considering the amount of files missing). Now, assorting the files and folders in there is going to be some long work -tho nothing compared to having to "undelete" the data- since most folders have their names replaced to "dir0000.chk" and such, but before I start I wonder: can I just cut and paste the files in there to another folder in the same drive and everything should be fine? or is there some other precaution I should take?

Cut and Paste should work find, but as you rightly noticed, you've got some work ahead of you sorting it all out.

You'd think that after all this time, Microsoft's programmers will have figured out a way of recovering folder name as well when running CHKDSK...
 

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Virtual Machine
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Windows 7 Professional 32-bit SP1
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AMD A4/A6
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Intel Corporation 440BX Desktop Reference Platform
Memory
3.00GB EDO
Graphics Card(s)
VMware SVGA 3D
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic Non-PnP Monitor on VMware SVGA 3D
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
1 x 60GB VMware Virtual SATA Hard Drive ATA Device
Antivirus
Kaspersky Total Security
By this time you'd think microsoft people's would do so many things..

Anyway, thanks everyone! I've got my data back, fully restored :)
 

My Computer

OS
MS Windows Server 2008 R2
CPU
AMD Phenom X3 8650
Motherboard
MSI MS-7374
Memory
Kingston 2.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz 6-6-6-18
Graphics Card(s)
512MB GeForce 9500 GT (XFX Pine Group)
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
SyncMaster 2243lnx @ 1680x1050
Hard Drives
"500"GB FUJITSU MAXTOR STM3500320AS ATA Device (IDE)
"500"GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00H2B0 ATA Device (IDE)
"300"GB Western Digital WDC ATA Device (IDE)
PSU
Cooler Master 650W
Case
COOLER MASTER 609
By this time you'd think microsoft people's would do so many things..

Anyway, thanks everyone! I've got my data back, fully restored :)

That's good to hear, ZippoLag.

It's ironic, isn't it? All of us, despite knowing the importance of backups, don't always do so, until it is driven home by near disasters such as you've had.

Human Nature I guess, to ignore what matters until it's almost too late to do anything about it...
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Virtual Machine
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit SP1
CPU
AMD A4/A6
Motherboard
Intel Corporation 440BX Desktop Reference Platform
Memory
3.00GB EDO
Graphics Card(s)
VMware SVGA 3D
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic Non-PnP Monitor on VMware SVGA 3D
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
1 x 60GB VMware Virtual SATA Hard Drive ATA Device
Antivirus
Kaspersky Total Security
I always recomend everyone to make backups.
Personally, I blame procrastination, since I've had a bulk of 100 DVDs sitting on my desk FOR ALMOST A YEAR NOW and I just "don't find the time" to use them up on making a proper backup. It makes me quite a tad angry towards myself, but I guess I'll just have to MAKE the time for doing it '^^
 

My Computer

OS
MS Windows Server 2008 R2
CPU
AMD Phenom X3 8650
Motherboard
MSI MS-7374
Memory
Kingston 2.0GB Dual-Channel DDR2 @ 400MHz 6-6-6-18
Graphics Card(s)
512MB GeForce 9500 GT (XFX Pine Group)
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
SyncMaster 2243lnx @ 1680x1050
Hard Drives
"500"GB FUJITSU MAXTOR STM3500320AS ATA Device (IDE)
"500"GB Western Digital WDC WD5000AAKS-00H2B0 ATA Device (IDE)
"300"GB Western Digital WDC ATA Device (IDE)
PSU
Cooler Master 650W
Case
COOLER MASTER 609
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