Mozilla launches Firefox 4

[blombardo]

If you want to install two separate versions of FF just download and when installing choose Custom - pick a different location to install -- then you must add two items to the command line shortcut when starting... Example:

"C:\Program Files (x86)\Mozilla Firefox4\firefox.exe" -ProfileManager -no-remote

Then it will allow you to create a new profile... and run two instances at once...


Regarding how it looks: someone please tell me how to fix the buttons!!!


I can NOT make 4 look like 3.6... it comes close- but not good enough... Observe the Reload / Stop and Home buttons still in the wrong location:

http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/3916/firefox4c.jpg

 

[blombardo]

I found a partial solution - you can move the buttons around with a freaky difficult to notice drag system that is accessible in the customize menu - you actually click the buttons and drag them around....

BUT the buttons still have large gaps in them - and when you click 'use small icons' the size does not really change - the buttons are still too big in comparison to 3.6

With these tweaks I'll use it - but I'd still like to know how to make the buttons closer together and smaller - so they take up the same amount of space that they used to...

Any ideas? lol

 

[profdlp]

Are you up for trying a different theme? I think button size and position is tied pretty deeply to that. I don't know if it's compatible (yet) but I have used a theme called Microfox for the purpose you describe.

EDIT: Just tried it - it works with 4.0

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/microfox-for-firefox/

 

[blombardo]

Nice suggestion profdlp - I've helped my kids and friends install personas and other odd things... personally I've never considered adding anything to mine as I have always tended to enjoy the plain old boring stock theme... I guess I'll have to adopt one like that. Thanks for reminding me of that option. I guess my complaint is solved I'll troll this thread for a while to see if I can offer any help to others - lol

 

[smarteyeball]

Any ideas? lol

Have you tried disabling icon text?

There will still be gaps between the buttons, but the icons themselves no longer look like grandmas big undies.

 

[s31]

I found a partial solution - you can move the buttons around with a freaky difficult to notice drag system that is accessible in the customize menu - you actually click the buttons and drag them around....

BUT the buttons still have large gaps in them - and when you click 'use small icons' the size does not really change - the buttons are still too big in comparison to 3.6

With these tweaks I'll use it - but I'd still like to know how to make the buttons closer together and smaller - so they take up the same amount of space that they used to...

Any ideas? lol

lol users have already told you that you can move icons around -_-

what skin are you using? icons shouldn't be looking like that

large icons should look like this
http://www.geeky-gadgets.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/07/firefox-4.jpg

small icons should look like this

 

[mr pc]

So I finally got 3.6 and 4.0 running in tandem and I made the necessary changes (HD accel/config settings) to improve font quality no avail

And what is up with the FF4 default skin fonts?

The font quality is horrible - this is undeniably a step back in quality.

The Address bar, the google search and especially the favorites bar. Does anyone see this? It's like HD TV without the HD signal.

Does it look better on HDMI monitors?

and why the compressed window? Tabs on top doesn't promise more space for the web apparently.

hmm...I'm reluctant to take a bite out of this but concerned it might turn myself and other FF fans off. IE9's text is more appealing

There must have be developer input on this somewhere.

 

[Snowdog]

And what is up with the FF4 default skin fonts?

The font quality is horrible - this is undeniably a step back in quality.

You are doing it wrong. :huh:

With HW Acceleration on, you get Microsoft DirectWrite fonts. If you don't like them, blame Microsoft.

With HW Acceleration off, FF 3.6 and FF 4.0 render Identical down to the pixel.

I made an effort to crop these samples perfectly, If you use an image viewer that lets you instantly flip (I use irfanView which is awesome) you will see that spacing, fonts everything is pixel identical.

And again as I posted before. Fonts are identical in FF4 and IE9 both GDI and DirectWrite. Naturally if you compare FF4 DirectWrite to IE9 GDI (or vice versa) then you are mistakenly comparing two different things.

 

[boogieboy]

Any Bugs, Crashes so far?

 

[oreo27]

As additional information, here is a live Download Stat page for Firefox.

Firefox 4 Download Stats

 

[severedsolo]

Any Bugs, Crashes so far?

Occasionally crashes my Geforce 210 drivers, but it's very rare (like once a week maybe?) To be honest though, I suspect that's because I'm choosing to use old drivers.

 

[Snowdog]

Any Bugs, Crashes so far?

No crashes yet and FF4 has probably been open on my machine 10+ hours/day since release.

These days when someone reports something crashing all over the place, it is is more likely their computer that is the problem.

 

[seekermeister]

When I awoke and came to the computer a bit ago, I was greeted by a firewall dialog asking whether to allow a process named mpsigstub.exe. Somewhat thoughtlessly, I let it. Wondering if I should have done so, I Googled it, and found that it is some kind of updater associated with Windows Defender, but since I had never seen that before, I continued looking and found that it is sometimes malware.

This caused me to run Malwarebytes (which found nothing to squawk about) and SpyBot (which quickly listed a registry key belonging to MTC.MakeMeSearch.com). SpyBot listed that as a browser hyjacker. Further reading, this seemed to be related to a search toolbar. Searching my computer, I found an installed program in the root of Program Files (x86), which was named search toolbar. I uninstalled this, but the fact that it's folder was dated 3-21-2011, and the firewall dialogs that I had to clear, listed Firefox as it's target, and that Firefox was the only program of this type that I had installed in that time frame, makes me believe that Firefox installed it.

I had opted for the custom install of Firefox, as I always do with any program that I can, and I always opt out of anything of this kind, if given a choice. Therefore I either wasn't given the choice, or Firefox ignored me and installed it anyway. I'm now curious if anyone else has found this problem, or if it is just me?

 

[Wallonn7]

Nope.
I did a full scan with Malwarebytes before yesterday. Result: "clean".

 

[noobvious]

When I awoke and came to the computer a bit ago, I was greeted by a firewall dialog asking whether to allow a process named mpsigstub.exe. Somewhat thoughtlessly, I let it. Wondering if I should have done so, I Googled it, and found that it is some kind of updater associated with Windows Defender, but since I had never seen that before, I continued looking and found that it is sometimes malware.

This caused me to run Malwarebytes (which found nothing to squawk about) and SpyBot (which quickly listed a registry key belonging to MTC.MakeMeSearch.com). SpyBot listed that as a browser hyjacker. Further reading, this seemed to be related to a search toolbar. Searching my computer, I found an installed program in the root of Program Files (x86), which was named search toolbar. I uninstalled this, but the fact that it's folder was dated 3-21-2011, and the firewall dialogs that I had to clear, listed Firefox as it's target, and that Firefox was the only program of this type that I had installed in that time frame, makes me believe that Firefox installed it.

I had opted for the custom install of Firefox, as I always do with any program that I can, and I always opt out of anything of this kind, if given a choice. Therefore I either wasn't given the choice, or Firefox ignored me and installed it anyway. I'm now curious if anyone else has found this problem, or if it is just me?

I did not opt for the custom install, but as of yet nothing popped up. SO now I am running full scans with Superantispyware and MSE, and running a Hitman Pro scan too.....so we'll see what happens.

Edit:Hitman turned up only one tracking cookie. Other scans are ongoing....

 

[Snowdog]

No Malware here. Seriously though, do you really think Mozilla is going to stoop that low. You probably picked it up on something you forgot about.

 

[pparks1]

When I awoke and came to the computer a bit ago, I was greeted by a firewall dialog asking whether to allow a process named mpsigstub.exe. Somewhat thoughtlessly, I let it. Wondering if I should have done so, I Googled it, and found that it is some kind of updater associated with Windows Defender, but since I had never seen that before, I continued looking and found that it is sometimes malware.

This caused me to run Malwarebytes (which found nothing to squawk about) and SpyBot (which quickly listed a registry key belonging to MTC.MakeMeSearch.com). SpyBot listed that as a browser hyjacker. Further reading, this seemed to be related to a search toolbar. Searching my computer, I found an installed program in the root of Program Files (x86), which was named search toolbar. I uninstalled this, but the fact that it's folder was dated 3-21-2011, and the firewall dialogs that I had to clear, listed Firefox as it's target, and that Firefox was the only program of this type that I had installed in that time frame, makes me believe that Firefox installed it.

I had opted for the custom install of Firefox, as I always do with any program that I can, and I always opt out of anything of this kind, if given a choice. Therefore I either wasn't given the choice, or Firefox ignored me and installed it anyway. I'm now curious if anyone else has found this problem, or if it is just me?

I have not seen this issue.

 

[Maguscreed]

Use noscript with firefox, it will prevent anything being injected without your permission.

 

[Fayla]

I've never, ever, seen or had this happen with the Firefox install, you must have picked it up somewhere else or don't have noscript installed (As Magus said.)

When I awoke and came to the computer a bit ago, I was greeted by a firewall dialog asking whether to allow a process named mpsigstub.exe. Somewhat thoughtlessly, I let it. Wondering if I should have done so, I Googled it, and found that it is some kind of updater associated with Windows Defender, but since I had never seen that before, I continued looking and found that it is sometimes malware.

This caused me to run Malwarebytes (which found nothing to squawk about) and SpyBot (which quickly listed a registry key belonging to MTC.MakeMeSearch.com). SpyBot listed that as a browser hyjacker. Further reading, this seemed to be related to a search toolbar. Searching my computer, I found an installed program in the root of Program Files (x86), which was named search toolbar. I uninstalled this, but the fact that it's folder was dated 3-21-2011, and the firewall dialogs that I had to clear, listed Firefox as it's target, and that Firefox was the only program of this type that I had installed in that time frame, makes me believe that Firefox installed it.

I had opted for the custom install of Firefox, as I always do with any program that I can, and I always opt out of anything of this kind, if given a choice. Therefore I either wasn't given the choice, or Firefox ignored me and installed it anyway. I'm now curious if anyone else has found this problem, or if it is just me?

 

[seekermeister]

Nope.
I did a full scan with Malwarebytes before yesterday. Result: "clean".

As I said, Malwarebytes didn't find anything on my computer either...SpyBot did. However, you probably don't need to run that, just check in Program Files (x86) for a folder named Search Toolbar, and also in Programs and Features for the same. If not in either place, then no program is going to detect it.