Multi-Monitor Taskbar Support

jweigel

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Any suggestions to deal with multiple monitors in Win7? I was using UltraMon in Vista and really liked what it did. With all the changes to the taskbar in 7, UltraMon has lots of issues.

Is there anything new in 7 dealing with the taskbar (across multiple monitors)?

Thanks for any help?

JJW
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I don't think a solution is available for dealing with the Taskbar across multiple monitors yet. :(
 

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You could write Microsoft a nasty arse letter telling them they are dumbarses for not implementing something that hundreds of people have contacted them about since 2002! (probably way earlier but I can't back that up) and I am sure thousands if not tens of thousands of people would use it, just not all of them are as mad about it as some of us that write Microsoft letters begging them to please actually LISTEN to the users.
 
Not from Microsoft - there are 3 major players in that dept - one is old, only uses old Windows 200 style bars, another is Realtime Soft UltraMon which costs like $40 and the third is DisplayFusion: Free Multi-Monitor Desktop Wallpaper Software | Binary Fortress Software which is both free and shareware (free version is feature limited, but even the limited version packs a wallop in terms of features, including multimonitor taskbar support (although it still uses only a Vista style taskbar) and many other features as well.

I bought the app ($15 CAN, roughly $13 US) and am now helping to Beta test DF on Windows 7 - it is a beautiful app. And, since it is free (you are not *forced* to buy the paid version) I'd suggest you give it a shot. If you like it enough, contact the author about wanting to help Beta test on W7 and buy the software and he'll email you pretty quickly (usually within 24 hours).
 

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Hmm, I'll check it out. He needs to get it to look like win7 though, and then I would pay for it instantly.
 
I'll convey that to him right now - but I don't think he actually has *access* to Win 7 as of yet, so that could be an issue....

my email said:
Also, btw, if you are around, I can pass along my WLM / Skype username(s) so we can talk more directly and I can show pics easily.

I have a fellow Win7 'user' who wants the secondary taskbar to look like the native Windows 7 style - I am assuming (and I told him as much) that you probably don't currently have access to Windows 7 - is this correct? Or is it possible to get a Proof of Concept in having the taskbar note which OS it is in / which type of taskbar is being used and match it?
 

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I might be able to do better than that - I *did* download dual copies of the ISO from the NGs,and I have both of them - I suppose I could send him one of them....

Since there are no keys involved, I think I'd be in a lot less trouble if it were to get out what it is in the envelope than if I sent him additional things like cracks / hacks / etc., right?
 

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I would agree with you. I felt the same way in a similar situation a few weeks back with 6936 and BlueBadge :)
 
Right, then, let's see what he says....
 

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I seem to remember M$ saying that Windows 7 would have multimonitor task bar.

If win7 is feature complete, where the hell is it!!!
 

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I have just checked up and maybe they didn't quite say they would have it :(

Engineering Windows 7 : Follow-up: Starting, Launching, and Switching

Multi-mon Support

It comes as no surprise that many of you wrote to discuss multi-monitor support for the taskbar. This is a popular request from our enthusiasts (and our own developers) and was called out as an area of investigation in the original post.

@Justausr is very direct with this comment: “The lack of multi-monitor support is just about a crime. We've seen pictures of Bill Gate's office and his use of 3 monitors. Most developers have 2 monitors these days. Why was multi-monitor support for the taskbar missing? Once again, this is an example of the compartmentalization of the Windows team and the lack of a user orientation in defining and implementing features. The fact that this is even a "possible" and not an "of course we're going to..." shows that you folks STILL don't get it.”

At least in this particular case we tend to think we “get it”, but we also tend to think that the design of a multi-mon taskbar is not as simple as it may seem. As with many features, there is more than one way to implement this one. For example, some might suggest a unique taskbar that exists on each display and others suggest a taskbar that spans multiple displays. Let’s look at both of these approaches. While doing so also keep in mind the complexities of having monitors of different sizes, orientations, and alignments.

If one was to implement a taskbar for each display where each bar only contained windows for its respective portion of the desktop, some issues arise. Some customers will cite advantages of less mouse travel since there is always a bar at the bottom on their screen. However, such a design would now put the onus on the customer to track where windows are. Imagine looking for a browser window and instead of going to a single place, you now had to look across multiple taskbars to find the item you want. Worse yet, when you move a window from one display to another, you would have to know to look in a new place to find it. This might seem at odds with the request to rearrange taskbar buttons because customers want muscle memory of their buttons. It would be like having two remotes with dynamically different functionality for your TV. This is one of the reasons that almost every virtual desktop implementation keeps a consistent taskbar despite the desktop you are working on.

Another popular approach is a taskbar that spans multiple desktops. There are a few third-party tools that attempt to emulate this functionality for the Windows taskbar. The most obvious advantage of this approach (as well as the dual taskbar) is that there is more room offered for launching, switching and whispering. It is fairly obvious that those customers with multiple displays have more room to have more windows open simultaneously and hence, require even more room on their taskbar. Some of our advanced customers address this issue by increasing the height of the taskbar to reveal multiple rows. Others ask for a spanning taskbar. The key thing to recognize is that the problem is not necessarily that the taskbar doesn’t span, but that more room is required to show more information about windows. So, it stands to reason that we should come up with the best solution to this problem, independent of how many displays the customer has.

We thought it would be good to just offer a brief discussion on the specifics of solving this design problem as it is one we have spent considerable time on. One of the approaches in general we are working to do more of, is to change things when we know it will be a substantial improvement and not also introduce complexities that outweigh the benefits we are trying to achieve.

Once again, many thanks for your comments. We look forward to talking soon.

- Chaitanya
 

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I hate to tell them, but DisplayFusion gets it and UltraMon gets it - both very good products that simply work.

Neither of those products have a 50 MB DL or anything horrendous like that, so contrary to his belief that it is not easily done, I offer this:

DF Taskbar Settings.PNG

It has 3 options, which are the 3 most requested options Jon (developer) has received in terms of reproducing the functionality of the original taskbar in the secondary taskbar.

Perhaps if they were to stop compartmentalizing as Justausr said....
 

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*sigh* Oh Microsoft .. why must your torment us? Just add it in please. Thanks.
 

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As I mentioned in another topic, I *seriously* doubt this build is *feature complete* - I can agree that most of the features incorporated are complete, but I beg to differ re: feature completeness, as I believe more and more features are still waiting to be added as the development continues.

In the meantime, please look at Display Fusion - it really rocks.

The ability to use the wall-paper change *using Flickr images directly fro Flickr* is amazing.
 

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I hope your right JG.
 

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I miss my UltraMon with matching theme and whatnot from Vista, I'm stuck with this single monitor taskbar. It's so frustrating sometimes. :(
 

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Yeah, up until build 7000, DF was working great in W7 also. Now, the Multi-mon feature has been broken, and Jon is not sure if he can get it working again before the next full release.

Oh well, it still has the other features I want.
 

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