Northbridge temps 90c-is that bad?

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Hey guys,

I was using HWmonitor to monitor psu load and temps. Looking at the attachment (attached) my core 1 and core 2 are around 40c at load ( TMPIN0 and TMPIN1, confirmed when entering bios after restart so cpu is still hot)

But TMPIN2 is at 85c but 90c load, I am sure this is the Northbridge as when i touch the heatsink after shutdown its REALLY hot.

My northbridge right now is undervoltaged as well as my cpu...

Any help is greatly appreciated with a dose of rep :P

happy solving!

PS- cant reapply thermal paste to northbride those darn clips are fixed tightly.
 

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If i were you I would contact the Manufactuer

Those temps can't be right and if it is that hot something is defective

max temps i seen on board and cpu socket were 50c at best you are exceeding it by almost 40+c nothing good about those numbers
 

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If i were you I would contact the Manufactuer

Those temps can't be right and if it is that hot something is defective

max temps i seen on board and cpu socket were 50c at best you are exceeding it by almost 40+c nothing good about those numbers

Thanks for the quick reply, I will contact gigabyte today, and i found some pliers to see if i can get off the heatsink.

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That cant be right, have you tried to get your hand close to it, but not touching it, does it actualy seem that hot?
 

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Ouch! That is hot. And you are quite right to be concerned, as that is uncomfortably hot. I note that you only have an 80mm fan for your case cooling, and I think that this is probably insufficient. If you can clean any dust/detritus from the heatsink fins and improve the cooling, you might be better. Temporarily remove the side panel to allow better air circulation.

What I would do is restore everything back to default settings (clockspeeds/voltages), power down to allow the system to cool down fully (might take some time, given those temperatures) and then power back on. Don't run any programs except for HWMonitor and let it idle. How are the temps, particularly TMPIN2, reading over time? What does it show at startup, after 5 mins, and after 10 mins ?
 

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Hi all,

I should be able to cover everything in this post, i am using my laptop,

firstly: putting my hand on the northbridge heatsink its boiling hot, its the hottest thing to touch in there even beating my radeon card. cpu heatsink is cool to the touch,

secondly, my can can only accomodate 3 fans all 80mm only. I have a fan blowing air in at the front and its pulling more air in than the 80mm fan at the back can blow out (i heard that is the best thing to do)

thirdly, I reset the voltages in bios to default and at idle they were the same 80c~ for NB and 50c~ for cpu (voltage increased to normal so hotter??? i load furmark for load and the temps actually went across 95 for NB and 60c for CPU which is not overclocked.

fourthly, i used my pliers to remove the heatsink and there is a good ammount of thermal paste on it, with silver particles.(guessing ac5?)

LASTLY

the NB shared an IGP the HD 3200, however i use a discrete card so it should not be in use, and its disabled in bios...


I think i covered everything
 

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you have to ring and see what they got for ya, it is incredibly hot, has it always been like this?
 

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you have to ring and see what they got for ya, it is incredibly hot, has it always been like this?

To be honest im not sure, that heatsink has always been hot when i touch it after use, like hotter than others, ill put up a ticket on their site
 

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If i were you I would contact the Manufactuer

Those temps can't be right and if it is that hot something is defective

max temps i seen on board and cpu socket were 50c at best you are exceeding it by almost 40+c nothing good about those numbers

Thanks for the quick reply, I will contact gigabyte today, and i found some pliers to see if i can get off the heatsink.

by the way i like your banner :D

Thank you and you're welcome ! :D
 

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Now that you've got the heatsink off, make sure that you carefully clean off all the old TIM from both it and the chip itself. Reapply paste and resit the heatsink (after cleaning it out) in exactly the same way as you would with a CPU.

I would also address your cooling. Does the exhausted air feel cool, warm, or hot? Having more air entering the case than leaving is not necessarily a good thing, as my opinion is that it should be balanced. Fans should not be used to force air; rather they should be used to assist the natural flow of air through the case. A simple analogy to the arrangement you have, where you have more air going in than out, is a simple bicycle pump. If you hold the pump at the bottom end where the hose normally attaches (but not blocking the hole) and pump away, you will notice that it remains relatively cool. Now block the hole with your thumb and pump again. Notice how it starts to warm up quite quickly. The same thing also happens to PCs if the cooling system doesn't function effectively.
 

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That has to be seen as no computer part should ever be that hot..
 

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Now that you've got the heatsink off, make sure that you carefully clean off all the old TIM from both it and the chip itself. Reapply paste and resit the heatsink (after cleaning it out) in exactly the same way as you would with a CPU.

I would also address your cooling. Does the exhausted air feel cool, warm, or hot? Having more air entering the case than leaving is not necessarily a good thing, as my opinion is that it should be balanced. Fans should not be used to force air; rather they should be used to assist the natural flow of air through the case. A simple analogy to the arrangement you have, where you have more air going in than out, is a simple bicycle pump. If you hold the pump at the bottom end where the hose normally attaches (but not blocking the hole) and pump away, you will notice that it remains relatively cool. Now block the hole with your thumb and pump again. Notice how it starts to warm up quite quickly. The same thing also happens to PCs if the cooling system doesn't function effectively.

Thanks for that info on cooling.
Cool air is being pulled in and pushed out. i will adjust the rear to run faster since it has a controller. as for the TIM i will have to wait till i get cash when im back at work in 2 weeks. I literally used every penny to buy a new HDD after mine failed. I should mention now im conscious about noise, it agitates me xD
 

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This is normal with gigabyte motherboards.
Check it on systemfan, it will show up around the 90's as well.

My motherboard has the exact same reading, and it's been running like that for years.
 

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thanks erick, that helps me conscious wise!
 

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Dell E2311H DVI/VGA 5ms response, 1080p
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200rpm SATA III
PSU
Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 700w
Case
Lian-Li PC-6010 With Side Window
Cooling
Aywun A4 80mm fan
Keyboard
Logitech K120 Wired Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech K120 Wired Mouse
Internet Speed
802.11N 300Mbps+ ADSL2+ Max 12.12Mbps
Other Info
Speakers: Logitech LS21 2.1 Satellites + Sub woofer

AMD Catalyst 12.11 BETA
Linksys x2000 Dual Band Wireless N 300Mbps ADSL2+
LiteON CD/DVD Player


GAME PERFORMANCE:
Battlefield 3: 41 FPS Ultra 1x AA @ 1980x1080
Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080
Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games):
300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!!
This is normal with gigabyte motherboards.
Check it on systemfan, it will show up around the 90's as well.

My motherboard has the exact same reading, and it's been running like that for years.
Well you do know if the Mofest start to get extremely hot and it isn't a top grade board it will end up blowing up capacitors and all pretty much you want to avoid Overly Hot Mosfets because you attempt to Overclock go ahead and just pour gas on it and light it because you will have a toaster on your hands

If you want to be double sure use another prog like the boards sensor control in bios and then you will be sure
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1Intel I7-6700K @ 4.6 Ghz 1.344 volts everyday OC32GB G-Skill TridentZ 3200mhz 16-18-18-38 DDR4Sli Gigabyte Windforce GTX 980 G1
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
CoreI7-6700K MrFingerIII Special Builds
OS
Windows 10 Home Premium 64bit sp1
CPU
Intel I7-6700K @ 4.6 Ghz 1.344 volts everyday OC
Motherboard
Asrock Fatality K6 Z170 Socket 1151
Memory
32GB G-Skill TridentZ 3200mhz 16-18-18-38 DDR4
Graphics Card(s)
Sli Gigabyte Windforce GTX 980 G1
Sound Card
AC97 Creative Rage Tactic 3D Headphones Bluetooth
Monitor(s) Displays
27" Asus ROG Swift PG278Q G-Sync 48" Vizio Smart HD TV
Screen Resolution
2560x1440p 27"- 48" Currently Gaming at 2560x1440p Res 2K
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung Evo840SSD Seagate baracuda 500 GB WD Mybook 500Gb 1TB Seagate Barracuda
PSU
HX1050w Corsair Silver 80plus certified crosfire/sli
Case
Enthod Pro Full Tower
Cooling
Corsair H110i GT 280 mm High Performance WaterBlock
Keyboard
Logitech wireless keyboard
Mouse
Logitech wireless mouse
Internet Speed
Cox Cable 100+ mb
Antivirus
WebRoot Spysweeper with Antivirus
Browser
IE-10, Chrome, Opera
Other Info
My Other Rig is a AMD FX8320E @4.6Ghz 16GB Ballistic Sport Ram
Mobo Asrock Fatality 990FX 120GB OCZ SSD 1TB Seagate Barracuda Corsair H75 Cooling PSU Corsair CX750
GPU GTX Gigabyte 970G1
If it takes out the capactors it has a good potencial to take out everypart of your currect computer
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x86Intel Pentium D 925 @ 3.00GHz1GB DDR2 667MHzOverclocked Asus ATI Radeon X1600 Pro 512MB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Packard Bell iMedia 2218 -- Has Been Running For Almost 7 Years!
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x86
CPU
Intel Pentium D 925 @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
Socket 775 MCP73VT-PM
Memory
1GB DDR2 667MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Overclocked Asus ATI Radeon X1600 Pro 512MB
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Audigy 570
Monitor(s) Displays
19" LCD Monitor; MW19E-AAA
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
500gb 7200rpm (Windows 7) ---
160gb 7200rpm (Backup) ---
1TB Iomega External Drive (7200rpm)
PSU
250w Packard Bell Standard
Case
Packard Bell standard
Cooling
Intel Socket 775 Air Cooler
Keyboard
Wired PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Wireless USB Mouse
Internet Speed
Wireles --- Download - 6.63 Mbps Upload - 0.38 Mbps
Other Info
Currently Planning To Build New Computer --- Also Got A Samsung Galaxy Ace II (Plays All Games You Throw At It)
true guys, But according to the website it uses a 3+1 VRM Phase, and high grade "japanese" capacitors (Stable system operation depends upon the quality of CPU VRM (voltage regulator module). GIGABYTE adopts Conductive Polymer Aluminum Solid Capacitors for CPU VRM to ensure a longer lifespan for systems in daily operation and boost system stability under extreme conditions. CPU VRM with Solid Capacitors featuring better electronic conductivity, excellent heat resistance enhances system durability even operating in high temperature environment.)

xD, dont know if they are rubbing the details in juicy sauce but i do take extra care with temps, a blown board is not on my list of things i want to happen
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium x64AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.1/2MB/2000MHz 45nm AM32X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1600MHz Dual C...HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: ...
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
CGR Watsonator Custom rig
OS
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.1/2MB/2000MHz 45nm AM3
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 AM3, 760G, Ultra Durable 3, M-ATX
Memory
2X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1600MHz Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: 1000MHz
Sound Card
Genius Sound Maker Value 5.1
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell E2311H DVI/VGA 5ms response, 1080p
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200rpm SATA III
PSU
Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 700w
Case
Lian-Li PC-6010 With Side Window
Cooling
Aywun A4 80mm fan
Keyboard
Logitech K120 Wired Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech K120 Wired Mouse
Internet Speed
802.11N 300Mbps+ ADSL2+ Max 12.12Mbps
Other Info
Speakers: Logitech LS21 2.1 Satellites + Sub woofer

AMD Catalyst 12.11 BETA
Linksys x2000 Dual Band Wireless N 300Mbps ADSL2+
LiteON CD/DVD Player


GAME PERFORMANCE:
Battlefield 3: 41 FPS Ultra 1x AA @ 1980x1080
Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080
Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games):
300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!!
Yes but even them... have a chance to get damaged at those temperatures i think
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x86Intel Pentium D 925 @ 3.00GHz1GB DDR2 667MHzOverclocked Asus ATI Radeon X1600 Pro 512MB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Packard Bell iMedia 2218 -- Has Been Running For Almost 7 Years!
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x86
CPU
Intel Pentium D 925 @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
Socket 775 MCP73VT-PM
Memory
1GB DDR2 667MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Overclocked Asus ATI Radeon X1600 Pro 512MB
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Audigy 570
Monitor(s) Displays
19" LCD Monitor; MW19E-AAA
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
500gb 7200rpm (Windows 7) ---
160gb 7200rpm (Backup) ---
1TB Iomega External Drive (7200rpm)
PSU
250w Packard Bell Standard
Case
Packard Bell standard
Cooling
Intel Socket 775 Air Cooler
Keyboard
Wired PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Wireless USB Mouse
Internet Speed
Wireles --- Download - 6.63 Mbps Upload - 0.38 Mbps
Other Info
Currently Planning To Build New Computer --- Also Got A Samsung Galaxy Ace II (Plays All Games You Throw At It)
Well thanks for all your help guys, i will wait to buy some TIM before i can do anything else...

question here: what is the average life of a motherboard, I have had this since august 2010 so its had a good run considerering the stress ive put it through, (extreme 4ghz+ overclocking, Underclocking, Undervolting, bios modding, the only thing i have replaced in this system since i bought it was the GPU and cpu cooler and more ram and hdd..

So it may be time i upgrade anyway to a atx with SATA III, Intel and crossfire :3 my cpu is now a bottleneck to the rest.

http://www.gigabyte.co.nz/products/product-page.aspx?pid=3583&dl=1#ov
 
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My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium x64AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.1/2MB/2000MHz 45nm AM32X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1600MHz Dual C...HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: ...
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
CGR Watsonator Custom rig
OS
Genuine Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
AMG Athlon II X2 255 3.1/2MB/2000MHz 45nm AM3
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA78LMT-S2 AM3, 760G, Ultra Durable 3, M-ATX
Memory
2X 4GB Kingston DDR3 1066MHz @ 1600MHz Dual Channel
Graphics Card(s)
HIS HD Radeon 7770 GHz Edition iCooler Core: 1000MHz
Sound Card
Genius Sound Maker Value 5.1
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell E2311H DVI/VGA 5ms response, 1080p
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 @ 60Hz
Hard Drives
Western Digital Caviar Blue 500GB 16MB Cache 7200rpm SATA III
PSU
Cooler Master eXtreme Power Plus 700w
Case
Lian-Li PC-6010 With Side Window
Cooling
Aywun A4 80mm fan
Keyboard
Logitech K120 Wired Keyboard
Mouse
Logitech K120 Wired Mouse
Internet Speed
802.11N 300Mbps+ ADSL2+ Max 12.12Mbps
Other Info
Speakers: Logitech LS21 2.1 Satellites + Sub woofer

AMD Catalyst 12.11 BETA
Linksys x2000 Dual Band Wireless N 300Mbps ADSL2+
LiteON CD/DVD Player


GAME PERFORMANCE:
Battlefield 3: 41 FPS Ultra 1x AA @ 1980x1080
Mass Effect 2 and 3: 60 FPS Highest 4x AA @ 1920x1080
Counter Strike Source (and other Valve games):
300 FPS (max FPS in game) Highest settings 8x AA 16x AF @ 1920x1080!!!
Well my 775 Socket has been runing since 2007 and no signs of it dying anytime soon, but i havnt obused it, havnt overclocked or nothing so i cant really answer for you right now..
 

My Computer My Computer

At a glance

Windows 7 Ultimate x86Intel Pentium D 925 @ 3.00GHz1GB DDR2 667MHzOverclocked Asus ATI Radeon X1600 Pro 512MB
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Packard Bell iMedia 2218 -- Has Been Running For Almost 7 Years!
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x86
CPU
Intel Pentium D 925 @ 3.00GHz
Motherboard
Socket 775 MCP73VT-PM
Memory
1GB DDR2 667MHz
Graphics Card(s)
Overclocked Asus ATI Radeon X1600 Pro 512MB
Sound Card
Sound Blaster Audigy 570
Monitor(s) Displays
19" LCD Monitor; MW19E-AAA
Screen Resolution
1440 x 900
Hard Drives
500gb 7200rpm (Windows 7) ---
160gb 7200rpm (Backup) ---
1TB Iomega External Drive (7200rpm)
PSU
250w Packard Bell Standard
Case
Packard Bell standard
Cooling
Intel Socket 775 Air Cooler
Keyboard
Wired PS/2 Keyboard
Mouse
Dell Wireless USB Mouse
Internet Speed
Wireles --- Download - 6.63 Mbps Upload - 0.38 Mbps
Other Info
Currently Planning To Build New Computer --- Also Got A Samsung Galaxy Ace II (Plays All Games You Throw At It)
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