Is it really overheating, bad sensor, or another problem?

[AddRAM]

Your +12 V still only says 9.9 I`m not sure exactly what that is supposed to say using hardware monitor.

My 1000 watt EVGA only says 7.08 Volts there, so who knows if that`s suppose to fluctuate or not, the only true way to test that is with a volt meter.

But I really don`t see any difference in your screenshots.

Use the bios to check the voltages and temps, I just went in and my +12 volts is fine, so I wouldn`t trust Hardware Monitor too much.

What power supply did you get ?

Post a link please.

 

[Dude]

Hardware Monitor reads low voltage for a lot of users. Check the BIOS

 

[Layback Bear]

Correct.

Hardware Monitor has not been working correctly for many in the last couple of weeks.
Hopefully Hardware Monitor people will get it fixed soon. It has been a good program for a long time is the past.

 

[AddRAM]

CPUID

 

[LeonDroid]

Your +12 V still only says 9.9 I`m not sure exactly what that is supposed to say using hardware monitor.

My 1000 watt EVGA only says 7.08 Volts there, so who knows if that`s suppose to fluctuate or not, the only true way to test that is with a volt meter.

But I really don`t see any difference in your screenshots.

Use the bios to check the voltages and temps, I just went in and my +12 volts is fine, so I wouldn`t trust Hardware Monitor too much.

What power supply did you get ?

Post a link please.

I'm concerned with the 1.9 & 2.02 V readings for the CPU and the 117 C & 115 C temp spikes in TMPIN1 & TMPIN2 (or should my only concern be the temperatures listed under AMD FX-4130?).

This is the PSU I bought: CORSAIR CX series CX500 500W ATX12V v2.3 80 PLUS BRONZE Certified Active PFC Power Supply - Newegg.com

Posting pictures of the BIOS screens...

And a picture of the message I got when I booted the computer. It's been running over 4 hours as of this posting.

 

[AddRAM]

Everything in the bios looks fine.

Hardware monitor is garbage, it`s not reading temps right, uninstall it.

Why is it running startup repair ?

Get your data off (if you have anything important) you shouldn`t, and reinstall windows.

 

[link238]

Are you actually able to feel the heat off the computer? 100+ in celcius will def be noticable around the case.

Your processor shoumd be ok up to around the 70's in terms of celsius, it wont be so good for you but the chip can take it. Its performance would be lowered though as its conductivity will be down

 

[LeonDroid]

Everything in the bios looks fine.

Hardware monitor is garbage, it`s not reading temps right, uninstall it.

Why is it running startup repair ?

Get your data off (if you have anything important) you shouldn`t, and reinstall windows.

I have no idea why it was running startup repair. It finished shortly after I posted that and when I logged in there was an error on the desktop telling me that it couldn't start because a dll file was missing. Some of the icons are gone as well as entire programs missing from their program files folders. Browsers, email client, BigFish game is manager gone but the games are still in their folders....Oh, and no need to uninstall Hardware Monitor...it disappeared too. For future reference is there one that does work well?

Which brings me to this question...Do I need to reinstall windows or buy a new hard drive then reinstall? The reason I ask is because my hard drive has 3 partitions (250 GB, 32GB, & 650 GB). The OS is on the 250GB partition and the 650GB partition is where I store everything I want to keep in case windows crashes. Also, I'm a big fan of redundancy & having multiple copies of everything important.


link238: I only actually felt heat the first time it overheated. At that time I removed the HS/Fan that came with it and replaced it with the HS/Fan from an AMD FX-8350. Hardware Monitor and Core Temp still gave me temp spikes of 117 C & 256 C respectively despite the fact that there is no evidence that there was ever a temperature that high (the back of the motherboard would be discolored).

 

[ignatzatsonic]

no need to uninstall Hardware Monitor...it disappeared too. For future reference is there one that does work well?

Which brings me to this question...Do I need to reinstall windows or buy a new hard drive then reinstall? The reason I ask is because my hard drive has 3 partitions (250 GB, 32GB, & 650 GB). The OS is on the 250GB partition and the 650GB partition is where I store everything I want to keep in case windows crashes. Also, I'm a big fan of redundancy & having multiple copies of everything important.

You can look at Speccy, a free download from Piriform. It's generally well thought of but I won't say it's flawless. Here's a sample screen shot.

If you want to stress test the PC, you can run something like Prime95.

Re 3 partitions: Good idea to have data separate from OS, but do you have the data backed up onto another discrete drive? What's on the 32 GB partition?

 

[link238]

Was thinking of asking about the other partition.

The h/s fan on a 8350 isnt any better. These things generate a ton of heat. I run a 8350 and recently switched over to liquid cooling. If you can support it i would def suggest it. Corsair or cooler master are cheap but good. I would regularly get temps around 40c around my processor. Had a house fan blowing on the sob constantly and still wasnt good. But i do have to say, never went up to 60 let alone 70 or 100. As for new install, not sure.

One thing i'd suggest is something like an external temp monitoring addon. For example i'm going to be getting an NZXT Sentry 3, its a mix fan control and temp sensors

 

[AddRAM]

With all those issues, I would definitely reinstall windows.

Once again, the bios is the only place to check true temp readings.

 

[Solarstarshines]

With all those issues, I would definitely reinstall windows.

Once again, the bios is the only place to check true temp readings.

Agreed Bios will actually give you a top CPU temp as well

If you are going for water cooling getting one with Monitoring Software is a real way to go but only Top Tier Models offer that so if you're looking for good cooling you will be looking at at least $100+

Everything else looks good though

 

[link238]

If you can support it, corsair h100i works wonders and has temp monitoring software for the pc and the pump. It uses a twin 120mm radiator (uses two 120mm fans) so if you have two top of case 120s that are joined up or 2 side/back fan spaces available you can use that. What kind of case do you use? Sorry if its in your sys specs, im on my phone

 

[LeonDroid]

You can look at Speccy, a free download from Piriform. It's generally well thought of but I won't say it's flawless. Here's a sample screen shot.

If you want to stress test the PC, you can run something like Prime95.

Re 3 partitions: Good idea to have data separate from OS, but do you have the data backed up onto another discrete drive? What's on the 32 GB partition?

1: Already have Speccy. It pretty much agrees with the readings of the other programs.
2: I thought Prime95 was for Intel based systems. I can't afford them top shelf processors. I use the AMDs...on sale (e.g. my AMD FX-8350 only cost me $130 from TD).
3: The 32GB partition was intended for PageFile.sys, but ended up being used for a Staging Area, PC Purgatory, PC Paddock...whatever you want to call it? Its a redundant storage place for files from other computers, Program settings backups, files being moved into or out of the computer (like the screenshots I've posted). My most important files are double & triple backed up excluding the external hard drives.

link238: When I continued to get overheating warnings, I took the FX-8350 HS/Fan out and replaced it with an Arctic Freezer 13: ARCTIC Freezer 13 with 92mm PWM Fan - Newegg.com
The case is a Thermaltake V4 Black Ed: Thermaltake V4 Black Edition Gaming Chassis Mid Tower Steel Computer Case Fully Black Powdered Interior VM30001W2Z - Newegg.com It says it supports 2 120mm top fans, but the memory retainer clips block the forward most one.

My FX-8350 is Liquid Cooled by a Zalman LQ-310, but that's in a different computer than the one this thread is focused on, and way more computer than I'll ever need.

 

[link238]

not a bad case or cooler. Try an os reinstall and get back to us.

 

[LeonDroid]

Which brings up the final question...
Is there any way, short of using an Ubuntu disk or different PC to reformat the OS partition, to reinstall W7 w/o it creating the Windows.old folder?

 

[Dude]

A clean install will not have a windows.old folder. Look at step 6 here

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1649-clean-install-windows-7-a.html?ltr=C

 

[AddRAM]

Make sure you are booting from the dvd and not trying to re install from within windows.

It`s all explained in the link above.

 

[LeonDroid]

A clean install will not have a windows.old folder. Look at step 6 here

http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/1649-clean-install-windows-7-a.html?ltr=C

Actually, the most helpful steps were 7 & 8. Although neither were specific to my request, I was able to use the information. Now I know what I should have been doing. I am no stranger to reinstalling windows. It's something I try to avoid because it's such a pain. What's most confusing, I was using the Virtual System component of Returnil System Safe (Poor man's Deep Freeze) when this happened.

Back to the temperature issue, is there any way to check the BIOS temps from within windows? I'm guessing not or someone would have already mentioned it.
When I finished doing the reinstall, including the drivers, I restarted the computer to check BIOS temps. The readings were: System: 32 (89.6) & CPU: 33 (91.4). That cannot possibly be the highest temp the CPU reached.
I'm going to give it a workout tomorrow and try out a few more monitoring programs (EasyTune6, AMD OverDrive and SpeedFan) to compare against Speccy & BIOS readings.

 

[link238]

Be careful that they dont interact bad. Its like antivirus, the more you have doesn't mean the better you are off.