PC Doesn't Boot after too much overclocking

[crazykilla]

Hello, I'm CrazyKilla

I love games, but what i mostly love about them is their beauty, the graphics and that realistic crap,
But if i Play games like Skyrim or L.A. Noire, i get Lag, (Only on Highest Settings)

Heres some of my specs:

Dual GeForce GTS 450s
I also have SLI for the 2 cards (are there very expensive SLI bridges that can boost my performance?)
16GBs of Ram (4x8gb)
Asus Rampage IV Extreme Motherboard
Intel i7 CPU 3.6GHz
And 2 Shitty Hard Drives (1 around 350gb and 2nd around 120gb)
I have about a 900Watt powersupply that handles crap fine,

The Hard drives are both old and slow, im not sure if they are bringing my performance down

So one day, i decided to do some overclocking, i started up the BIOS and i overclocked shit to the max, but then i clicked save and exit and my PC was basicly like this:

I push power button: PC turns on for 20 secs, then turns off
i wait about 4 secs and PC starts again,
i wait another 15-20 secs and PC turns off again,
i wait and nothing happens, The if i push power button again it all repeats,

Basicly after Overclocking my PC doesn't Start,
My problem isn't the PC not starting because i can fix that with a awesome reset button on my motherboard,

What i want is to be able to do Overclocking without having my PC restart itself and not manage to stay on for half a minute

NOTE: I reset my motherboard and went into BIOS again, and i had everything on default which works fine, and then i set a few things higher, nothing much, just things that would add a very small amount to my FPS, but still the PC decides not to work!

NOTE: I still had this problem back when i had a single graphics card and about 4gbs of ram,

 

[Maguscreed]

So one day, i decided to do some overclocking, i started up the BIOS and i overclocked shit to the max, but then i clicked save and exit

Did you bother to even read about overclocking before randomly cranking everything up?
Probably not, that question kind of answers itself.

What I don't get is apparently minus my graphics your system is basically mine.
There is not a whole lot to be gained clocking these things. They already turbo up to 4.2ghz without you even doing anything.

You want better graphics, you need a better graphics card.
Believe me if you are running a quad core 3.6ghz i7 you drastically exceed the recommended processor for any game on the market, not the minimum required mind you but the recommended.

Finally slow hdd's will affect load times, but shouldn't be affecting in game rendering and the actual in game experience.

 

[ignatzatsonic]

You didn't say what i7, so:

Take a look here:

Core i7 Overclocking Guide For Beginners

If that doesnt' satisfy you, here are 28,500 links on overclocking various i7 processors:

- Google Search

 

[TanyaC]

Hi,

Firstly, the 450 graphics card is a low end - middle of the road card. If you want to play games on max settings look at the 670, 680 or 690 cards.

Some people swear by SLI, some others think the price/heat/performance ratio is not worth it (I'm one of the latter). But each to his own.

The problem with the lag in your games is probably not due to your other components. 16gb of RAM is plenty, and an I7 3.6ghz CPU is plenty. Although, you say you have 4x8gb of memory, which actually equals 32gb not 16gb.

With overclocking, you always start small and tweak in small amounts until your PC stops booting, or starts to become unstable, at which point you back it off a little.

There are plenty of resources for overclocking around the net, such as Overclockers: The Performance Computing Community for Overclocking Hardware and How to Overclock Information and Overclock.net - An Overclocking Community

A new hard drive is probably worth the investment. Unless the drive(s) are faulty, they are probably not contributing a lot to your lagging.

Are you running your memory quad channel? The mobo supports it, but you have to make sure you put the memory in the correct slots for that to work.

 

[crazykilla]

yea sorry i messed up with the 4x8gb, its 4x4, also i tried making small tweaks, even they stopped pc from booting, also my motherboard has black and red slots for ram, it goes: (Red) (Black) (Red) (Black) (Processor) (Black) (Red) (Black) (Red),
For some reason i can only put Ram in the Red slots, if i put it in the black i dont know what happens but it doesn't notice the ram (maybe that memory quad channel thing you mentioned?)

 

[TanyaC]

yea sorry i messed up with the 4x8gb, its 4x4, also i tried making small tweaks, even they stopped pc from booting, also my motherboard has black and red slots for ram, it goes: (Red) (Black) (Red) (Black) (Processor) (Black) (Red) (Black) (Red),
For some reason i can only put Ram in the Red slots, if i put it in the black i dont know what happens but it doesn't notice the ram (maybe that memory quad channel thing you mentioned?)

Yes, I took alot at your motherboard. Looks nice. It would make sense that the red slots are the correct slots to put it in.

Anyway, have a look at the I7 overclocking site Ignatzatsonic suggested, and some of the others. Some boards are easier to overclock than others.

Best of luck.

 

[Mintos45]

First Rule of OCing: Make sure you have the heart to fix it if it blows up.
Second Rule: Don't crank it up to the max. (Example: When you're driving a car, do you just start the engine and go automatically to gear 5? Or do you go gear 1, 2, 3, 4 and THEN 5?)

 

[dexislegend123]

First Rule of OCing: Make sure you have the heart to fix it if it blows up.
Second Rule: Don't crank it up to the max. (Example: When you're driving a car, do you just start the engine and go automatically to gear 5? Or do you go gear 1, 2, 3, 4 and THEN 5?)

Or if your american you have no gears at all

But dude seriously....... Take the advice read into what your doing before you do I posted a good starter OC software and tutorial in one of my posts find it start there.

It may help when you get up and running.

Also monitor your system when your OC

 

[Layback Bear]

First off your motherboard is a great over clocker but would not be considered a beginners over clocking motherboard. Next you surly need to read and understand the motherboard manual. Many site have been given for over clocking. All those site are good but all the post in those sites arn't. You will need to do a lot of reading and studying. Their is no magic wan. If you are going to over clock I highly recommend better than stock cpu and case cooling. SLI and over clocking creates a lot more heat.

 

[oxymoron02]

Just to throw in my two pennies aswell.

You're the absolute worst type of system owner. You throw caution to the wind like it's confetti and display all the eloquence of a caveman smashing a rock against another rock to make one of them work better.


The simple fact that you came here posting that you "overclocked shit to the max" demonstrates that you should never have been allowed to buy these parts in the first place, let alone assemble them into a working machine and definitely not to enter advanced and potentially dangerous configuration options.
And yes, I have an intense dislike for the language you use in your post. I swear like a mother****er in real life but online I like to pretend that I have some decorum.


To reiterate what Tanya has stated, your graphics card is considered low-end and the fact that you have two running in SLI makes no difference; SLI and Crossfire are vastly overrated unless you have cards which make them worthwhile, and even then a decent single or dual GPU card will still blow them out of the water, especially if overclocked.

Second, you're not overclocking the CPU to try and make games run smoother, are you? It is the GPU which handles the majority of the grunt work when playing games (kind of makes sense now, doesn't it? Graphics card?) and so tweaking this can drastically improve performance.
For example my 6870 will actually stutter a little when playing Saints Row The Third at its stock settings; 900MHz core clock and 1050 on the memory. Change just the core clock to 930 and this stuttering disappears completely. A tiny change can have a profound impact but again, only if you have the hardware to support it.


There have been some excellent links provided for you here, even the sarcastic "25,000 Google results" link which honestly, is what you should have done yourself in the first place. Overclocking is a very risky game and you are to be perfectly honestly incredibly lucky that you didn't simply burn out your processor that first time. My advice to you, ease into this slowly; treat overclocking the way you'd treat a virgin (yes I just made that analogy). Don't just slam into the poor girl and start recklessly hammering away without reason or method. Take it slow, be gentle with her, and she will absolutely give you a hassle-free, awesome time.

 

[Mintos45]

Just to throw in my two pennies aswell.

You're the absolute worst type of system owner. You throw caution to the wind like it's confetti and display all the eloquence of a caveman smashing a rock against another rock to make one of them work better.


The simple fact that you came here posting that you "overclocked shit to the max" demonstrates that you should never have been allowed to buy these parts in the first place, let alone assemble them into a working machine and definitely not to enter advanced and potentially dangerous configuration options.
And yes, I have an intense dislike for the language you use in your post. I swear like a mother****er in real life but online I like to pretend that I have some decorum.


To reiterate what Tanya has stated, your graphics card is considered low-end and the fact that you have two running in SLI makes no difference; SLI and Crossfire are vastly overrated unless you have cards which make them worthwhile, and even then a decent single or dual GPU card will still blow them out of the water, especially if overclocked.

Second, you're not overclocking the CPU to try and make games run smoother, are you? It is the GPU which handles the majority of the grunt work when playing games (kind of makes sense now, doesn't it? Graphics card?) and so tweaking this can drastically improve performance.
For example my 6870 will actually stutter a little when playing Saints Row The Third at its stock settings; 900MHz core clock and 1050 on the memory. Change just the core clock to 930 and this stuttering disappears completely. A tiny change can have a profound impact but again, only if you have the hardware to support it.


There have been some excellent links provided for you here, even the sarcastic "25,000 Google results" link which honestly, is what you should have done yourself in the first place. Overclocking is a very risky game and you are to be perfectly honestly incredibly lucky that you didn't simply burn out your processor that first time. My advice to you, ease into this slowly; treat overclocking the way you'd treat a virgin (yes I just made that analogy). Don't just slam into the poor girl and start recklessly hammering away without reason or method. Take it slow, be gentle with her, and she will absolutely give you a hassle-free, awesome time.

Amazing analogies...
Can I rep you for saying all that^^^^?

 

[Layback Bear]

oxymoron02 Tell us all how you really feel.

 

[Cr00zng]

Or if your american you have no gears at all

The American car does have gears, even if it is automatic transmission; at the very least it has "R, N, D, 1, 2"

But dude seriously....... Take the advice read into what your doing before you do I posted a good starter OC software and tutorial in one of my posts find it start there.

It may help when you get up and running.

Also monitor your system when your OC

Agreed and the guy should just get a better graphic card and forget OC-ing...

 

[Mintos45]

Get a GTX 690.
OC it slightly and it'll dominate everything else

 

[oxymoron02]

Mintos I certainly won't stop you.

Bear, does it honestly not aggravate you to your wit's end when someone makes a post like crazykilla's? No research whatsoever, no attempt to understand what he's doing; just straight into overclocking everything as high as possible and expecting it work, only to end up absolutely baffled when it doesn't?

And to skimp on the graphics card when you want to play graphics-intensive games such as Skyrim and LA Noire again only shows his complete inexperience in buying and building computers. Then coming here and explaining everything with liberal doses of "crap" and "shit" thrown in like he's slinging around words as if he's wielding some sort of forum-based six-shooter?



For crazykilla; You never told us what kind of numbers you're clocking to, and how you set about doing it in the BIOS. My first foray into overclocking was a disaster which only manifested after around two weeks (and that was incredibly lucky on my part), as thanks to an unintuitive BIOS from XFX I managed to overclock the chipset rather than the CPU and didn't realise this until my system kept blue screening entirely at random.

 

[Layback Bear]

Yes to a degree oxymoron02. But we all have a deferent learning curve. The OP is lucky he/she got a motherboard that won't let the computer become a toaster. Hopefully with the post here the learning will start. I wouldn't think one would buy a motherboard like that and not over clock. I also do agree that one of the new wip asss video cards would be a great idea. It would help gaming more than a over clock would. These are choice the the owner operator of the computer have to make. My main point is and was, the first thing one does in my mind is the homework and learn. Don't jump off the bridge to see if you can swim. Learn to swim and then jump off the bridge.
With a little home work one would probably choose a different motherboard for a beginner. Chose a different video card and looked into better cooling.

 

[dexislegend123]

And the moral of this story is Learn to walk before you run.

 

[gazz9496]

question is did you change the voltages or overclock the wrong thing, did you change settings that don't even need changing.

do you have the k version of the i7? or the normal one.

so little information given what you were asking.