Retiring Windows 7 Anyone Else?

[gregrocker]

Programs that run flawlessly on XP either won't run on 7 or take a "geek of the year finalist" to get them to run;

 

[Frostmourne]

Funnily enough, that usually works unless the app is really poorly coded.

 

[GEWB]

Hi all


1) That annoying 100MB or so system partition -- this is a REAL nuisance to those that like to create an OS in a SINGLE partition only -- this can play havoc with Image backups and restores as you have to set THIS as the active partition and the "Main" OS partition as a prmary partition.

It's now a question of space -- 100MB on a 500GB drive is nothing -- it's just the spreading of the OS over more than 1 partition that's the problem.

OK this is fixed by ensuring ALL partitions exist BEFORE installing the OS -- even if the parttion is empty - use GPARTED or whatever to create a partition of the size you want BEFORE installing.

This can also be a problem for those who WANT a separate partition for data.

My new laptop has a good size drive and wanted a separate 100GB data partition - but alas it wasn't possible:

> Boot partition
> Restore partition
> HP tools partition
> Windows partition


No way to split the Windows partition as four already exist!

Stupid, both HP and MS.

Regards,
GEWB

 

[gregrocker]

You can get rid of the Win7 boot/repair partition (and the repair console it makes available at bootup via F8 key) by using a third party partition manager like free Partition Wizard bootable to delete it, Resize Win7 partition into that space, then boot into the Win7 DVD Repair console and run Startup repair 3 times to eventually rewrite the MBR.

Back up all data and a system image as resize operations can fail.

You can avoid having the 100mb partition in the first place by pre-formatting your partitions.

 

[Frostmourne]

Why would you want to partition with Libraries? As for defragmenting performance, I doubt its that noticeable.

 

[Barman58]

I thing I would like to add (again ), is that windows 7 can be installed on a logical drive on an extended partition It is only the boot partition that needs to be on a primary partition.

As a proof of this check the attached image from my own system during Beta testing

The boot files are on the System ( vista ) partition by the way the image is taken from inside the X64 windows 7 beta running on the logical drive

This is a quad boot running on three primary partitions leaving 1 free just in case

 

[whs]

Why would you want to partition with Libraries

There are good reasons to have a seperate partition for your own files. One, if the OS partition goes south, you do not loose your data. Then, if you have several operating systems on the box, you can use the data for both systems.

 

[Frostmourne]

Why would you want to partition with Libraries

There are good reasons to have a seperate partition for your own files. One, if the OS partition goes south, you do not loose your data. Then, if you have several operating systems on the box, you can use the data for both systems.

Not necessarily - I have several system images and file backups across a couple of external hard drives, the most important synced with SyncToy. Any other reasons?

 

[whs]

Why would you want to partition with Libraries

There are good reasons to have a seperate partition for your own files. One, if the OS partition goes south, you do not loose your data. Then, if you have several operating systems on the box, you can use the data for both systems.

Not necessarily - I have several system images and file backups across a couple of external hard drives, the most important synced with SyncToy. Any other reasons?

Of course one images. I have 2x640GBs and 2x250GBs dedicated to that. That is for the ultimate emergency. But I just reinstalled Vista because it had a few snags and Win7 because I installed a new SSD. In both cases I did not have to make any arrangements for my data. It just stayed put on it's own partition.

 

[harpua]

There are good reasons to have a seperate partition for your own files. One, if the OS partition goes south, you do not loose your data. Then, if you have several operating systems on the box, you can use the data for both systems.

Not necessarily - I have several system images and file backups across a couple of external hard drives, the most important synced with SyncToy. Any other reasons?

Of course one images. I have 2x640GBs and 2x250GBs dedicated to that. That is for the ultimate emergency. But I just reinstalled Vista because it had a few snags and Win7 because I installed a new SSD. In both cases I did not have to make any arrangements for my data. It just stayed put on it's own partition.

When you reinstalled the OS's did you have to reinstall your applications as well?

 

[Zidane24]

No offense to the OP but...this may be a nominee for the greatest troll thread of the year:roflmao::roflmao:

 

[whs]

Yes, I reinstalled from scratch. Reinstalling the applications was not the big deal. I keep a copy of all the installation .exes of anything I ever download on a seperate 2.5" disk. And for things like Office 2007 I have the CD. The big deal was to reinstall all the updates. My recovery partition was more than 2 years old - ergo pre SP1 and they ran me thru a couple of hundred updates for days on end. I did, however, not install SP2 because I think that is what threw the monkey wrenches into my system in the first place.
As far as Windows7 goes, I installed that twice from the purchase RTM disk because I switched my SSDs. And then I installed the applications from my 2.5" disk and the CDs. Fortunately everything is working after some tweaks - e.g. I reinstalled the Vista sidebar. Win7 showered me with relatively few updates because it is new.

 

[Lordbob75]

No offense to the OP but...this may be a nominee for the greatest troll thread of the year:roflmao::roflmao:

That was my first thought when I saw this thread......

Seems to be living up to that, though it has kept pretty nice overall.

I'm still waiting for it to explode!

~Lordbob

 

[Barman58]

It's an interesting debate - which is one of the main reasons for this forum existing

 

[Lordbob75]

It's an interesting debate - which is one of the main reasons for this forum existing

Wouldn't have it any other way!

~Lordbob

 

[Zidane24]

It's an interesting debate - which is one of the main reasons for this forum existing

Wouldn't have it any other way!

~Lordbob

Indeed...the thread has borderlined at times...but it has remained a clean debate

 

[whs]

After all we are civilized people - aren't we?

 

[Zidane24]

After all we are civilized people - aren't we?

Exactly what does civilized mean again?

 

[gizbug]

XP is so dated though.............

 

[Zepher]

I consider myself pretty computer savvy and have built and maintained over 150 machines since the early 90's.
The only pre-built machines I have owned were my Commodore Amiga 3000 and various laptops through the years.
After using Vista Ultimate from Jan of this year till August when Win 7 came out and now using 7, I will never go back to XP.
I don't seem to have any issues with 7 at all. Works great on my HTPC, my Main machine, as well as on my Dell Mini 9, in fact Win 7 runs better on the Dell than it did with Windows XP Home.