Sapphire HD 3850 PCIe

Simon Cole

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Dear friends,

I have just built my very first PC but am having problems with the above graphics card. In device manager I am able to see that my HD 3850 is being detected, but I cannot see any of the monitors I have plugged into it.

I have updated the latest version of ATI Catalyst (10.1) and installed and run that.
I have also tried the ATI Hotfix software.

I know that there is a way of updating the cards's hardware ID into the setup executions. Please can anyone give me a little more guidance on that?

They are:
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_E630174B&REV_00
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&SUBSYS_E630174B
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&CC_030000
PCI\VEN_1002&DEV_9505&CC_0300

I should also mention that I am running an earlier Radeon 7000 (not cross-fired).

Many many thanks!

Simon
 

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Home build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit
CPU
Intel 8200 Quad Core
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L
Memory
4GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon Sapphire 7000
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W2243S, LG W1942T, HP w1907v
Hard Drives
128 GB Matrox
PSU
750W
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Wizard
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25 cm side, 15cm front, Intel CPU cooler and power supply
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Simon welcome to the forums.

Unless you need it for more than two monitors, take the 7000 out as that is the cause of the problem. Reason for that is the 3850 is using the WDDM 1.1 driver, and the 7000 is using the WDDM 1.0 (if you're lucky and not just whatever default driver Windows installed for it) and Windows is defaulting to the lowest common denominator for the driver and using the 7000 driver.
 

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Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
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Xonar DGX w/ Corsair Vengence 1300
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Dear Stormy13,

I would like to run 3 monitors. Will it be necessary to remove the 7000?

Thanks
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit
CPU
Intel 8200 Quad Core
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L
Memory
4GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon Sapphire 7000
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W2243S, LG W1942T, HP w1907v
Hard Drives
128 GB Matrox
PSU
750W
Case
Wizard
Cooling
25 cm side, 15cm front, Intel CPU cooler and power supply
Mouse
Logitech MX518
Internet Speed
2-4 MB
It is if you want the 3850 to work properly. There have been a few threads on here about this same problem and the solution was to remove the older card, and if needed for more than two monitors to get another of with a different make (Nvidia for example) or a newer card of the same make that uses the same generation of driver.

Have seen threads where some have tried it with a Nvidia card from the 8xxx series and up, with a card from an earlier generation and the same thing happens. Now if the second card was a non WDDM 1.1 Nvidia card in your case, the problem wouldn't occur (two totally different drivers, not just different driver models).
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Me
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so far
Motherboard
Asus M5A97 EVO
Memory
ADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Sound Card
Xonar DGX w/ Corsair Vengence 1300
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL Abid
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12
PSU
Antec Earthwatts 650W Green
Case
Antec Three Hundred
Cooling
Cooler Master 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
35000/3000
Success!

Thank you Stormy13 for some great advice. The card now runs with no problems, but it is a tad noisy. You're my hero! I spent ages trying to sort this out and it was elimentary my dear Watson.

Can you recommend any compatible good PCI card to go with it. I also have PCI expansion slots on my GA-EP45-UD3L motherboard, but don't know whether they are on any help.

Thanks again and have a big hug from sunny Wales.

Simon
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit
CPU
Intel 8200 Quad Core
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L
Memory
4GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon Sapphire 7000
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W2243S, LG W1942T, HP w1907v
Hard Drives
128 GB Matrox
PSU
750W
Case
Wizard
Cooling
25 cm side, 15cm front, Intel CPU cooler and power supply
Mouse
Logitech MX518
Internet Speed
2-4 MB

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Me
OS
Win 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
FX-8350 @ 4.6 GHz so far
Motherboard
Asus M5A97 EVO
Memory
ADATA XPG V1 Series Black 8GB DDR3 1600
Graphics Card(s)
Sapphire R9 270x Dual-X
Sound Card
Xonar DGX w/ Corsair Vengence 1300
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer S232HL Abid
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
120 GB OCZ Vertex 3
500 GB Seagate 7200.12
PSU
Antec Earthwatts 650W Green
Case
Antec Three Hundred
Cooling
Cooler Master 212 EVO
Keyboard
Logitech G510
Mouse
Logitech G500s
Internet Speed
35000/3000
Please do you know of any suitable alternative PCI cards?
...just so that I can take my pick between them.

Also, would I have problems with this 64bit card on my 32bit system?

Another thought... is crossfire possible?
 
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My Computer My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 32bit
CPU
Intel 8200 Quad Core
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-EP45-UD3L
Memory
4GB DDR2
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon Sapphire 7000
Monitor(s) Displays
LG W2243S, LG W1942T, HP w1907v
Hard Drives
128 GB Matrox
PSU
750W
Case
Wizard
Cooling
25 cm side, 15cm front, Intel CPU cooler and power supply
Mouse
Logitech MX518
Internet Speed
2-4 MB
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