Seven or XP?

[KazeNoKoe23]

Is 7 better than XP? Oh boy, let me count the ways....

1. Security: Before I get some of the standard "I don't need Vista/7 to protect me, I know how to secure my machine" responses, let me reiterate. There have been some flaws in Windows that an antivirus and firewall simply won't catch. A good example of this would be the SWF flaw from the early days of Vista. UAC protected against this flaw, and now with 7's revised UAC, there's no reason not to jump from XP to 7, if nothing else, for the added security.

2. Performance: On every machine I've tried, ranging from old machines with Athlon 2400+ processors with 768 MB RAM, to Phenom X4's with 4 GB RAM, 7's WORST performance was on par with XP at its best. And given XP's susceptibility to "Windows Rot", I don't feel the need to format every couple of months to maintain the best speed possible. Windows 7 always feels snappy, no matter how much I load the drive up with software and other files.

3. Appearance: I realize to some, this is a non-issue, and that there are literally thousands of themes and visual styles available for XP, but with 7, I don't feel any sort of need or desire to change its appearance. Explorer looks clean IMO, and while it's argued that XP's Explorer was more customizable, 7's UI is so neat that I don't feel it needs customization. Aero looks a lot more refined than it did in Vista, and with WDDM 1.1, it's also more efficient with memory.

4. Taskbar: This might be a sub-category of Appearance, but with all the improvements made to the taskbar, I felt it deserved its own category. The way they essentially combined the old taskbar with Quick Launch makes for a very impressive and more importantly, very efficient experience. Any programs I use frequently, I just pin to the taskbar, so it's always there, and I don't have to clutter my desktop with icons or search through Quick Launch. At first I didn't even like the new taskbar because I was so used to using Quick Launch, but after using it more and more, the more I liked it.

5. Networking: Setting up a home network is still simple, like it was in Vista. I'm sure the vast majority of us know how to set up a network in XP anyways, but with 7, it's much more seamless.

There are some others like Libraries that I haven't touched on, but I haven't fooled around enough with other aspects of the OS to provide an in-depth opinion.

 

[SanityKills]

Windows XP, but I'll probably switch to Windows 7 purely out of boredom. Windows 7 has lots of small glitches, issues with gaming video, slow screen writes, and feels as if it's sluggish under the hood moreso than XP. It still feels unfinished but that's pretty typical for Microsoft these days. I get the feel that it is slower, but designed to "appear" faster cosmetically if that makes any sense.

 

[Tews]

Is 7 better than XP? Oh boy, let me count the ways....

1. Security: Before I get some of the standard "I don't need Vista/7 to protect me, I know how to secure my machine" responses, let me reiterate. There have been some flaws in Windows that an antivirus and firewall simply won't catch. A good example of this would be the SWF flaw from the early days of Vista. UAC protected against this flaw, and now with 7's revised UAC, there's no reason to jump from XP to 7, if nothing else, for the added security.

2. Performance: On every machine I've tried, ranging from old machines with Athlon 2400+ processors with 768 MB RAM, to Phenom X4's with 4 GB RAM, 7's WORST performance was on par with XP at its best. And given XP's susceptibility to "Windows Rot", I don't feel the need to format every couple of months to maintain the best speed possible. Windows 7 always feels snappy, no matter how much I load the drive up with software and other files.

3. Appearance: I realize to some, this is a non-issue, and that there are literally thousands of themes and visual styles available for XP, but with 7, I don't feel any sort of need or desire to change its appearance. Explorer looks clean IMO, and while it's argued that XP's Explorer was more customizable, 7's UI is so neat that I don't feel it needs customization. Aero looks a lot more refined than it did in Vista, and with WDDM 1.1, it's also more efficient with memory.

4. Taskbar: This might be a sub-category of Appearance, but with all the improvements made to the taskbar, I felt it deserved its own category. The way they essentially combined the old taskbar with Quick Launch makes for a very impressive and more importantly, very efficient experience. Any programs I use frequently, I just pin to the taskbar, so it's always there, and I don't have to clutter my desktop with icons or search through Quick Launch. At first I didn't even like the new taskbar because I was so used to using Quick Launch, but after using it more and more, the more I liked it.

5. Networking: Setting up a home network is still simple, like it was in Vista. I'm sure the vast majority of us know how to set up a network in XP anyways, but with 7, it's much more seamless.

There are some others like Libraries that I haven't touched on, but I haven't fooled around enough with other aspects of the OS to provide an in-depth opinion.

+1 .. + rep

 

[KazeNoKoe23]

Windows XP, but I'll probably switch to Windows 7 purely out of boredom. Windows 7 has lots of small glitches, issues with gaming video, slow screen writes, and feels as if it's sluggish under the hood moreso than XP. It still feels unfinished but that's pretty typical for Microsoft these days. I get the feel that it is slower, but designed to "appear" faster cosmetically if that makes any sense.

Strange. I haven't had any of these issues. What are your computer specs?

+1 .. + rep

And thank you for the rep.

 

[Muad Dib]

Is 7 better than XP? Oh boy, let me count the ways....

1. Security: Before I get some of the standard "I don't need Vista/7 to protect me, I know how to secure my machine" responses, let me reiterate. There have been some flaws in Windows that an antivirus and firewall simply won't catch. A good example of this would be the SWF flaw from the early days of Vista. UAC protected against this flaw, and now with 7's revised UAC, there's no reason to jump from XP to 7, if nothing else, for the added security.

2. Performance: On every machine I've tried, ranging from old machines with Athlon 2400+ processors with 768 MB RAM, to Phenom X4's with 4 GB RAM, 7's WORST performance was on par with XP at its best. And given XP's susceptibility to "Windows Rot", I don't feel the need to format every couple of months to maintain the best speed possible. Windows 7 always feels snappy, no matter how much I load the drive up with software and other files.

3. Appearance: I realize to some, this is a non-issue, and that there are literally thousands of themes and visual styles available for XP, but with 7, I don't feel any sort of need or desire to change its appearance. Explorer looks clean IMO, and while it's argued that XP's Explorer was more customizable, 7's UI is so neat that I don't feel it needs customization. Aero looks a lot more refined than it did in Vista, and with WDDM 1.1, it's also more efficient with memory.

4. Taskbar: This might be a sub-category of Appearance, but with all the improvements made to the taskbar, I felt it deserved its own category. The way they essentially combined the old taskbar with Quick Launch makes for a very impressive and more importantly, very efficient experience. Any programs I use frequently, I just pin to the taskbar, so it's always there, and I don't have to clutter my desktop with icons or search through Quick Launch. At first I didn't even like the new taskbar because I was so used to using Quick Launch, but after using it more and more, the more I liked it.

5. Networking: Setting up a home network is still simple, like it was in Vista. I'm sure the vast majority of us know how to set up a network in XP anyways, but with 7, it's much more seamless.

There are some others like Libraries that I haven't touched on, but I haven't fooled around enough with other aspects of the OS to provide an in-depth opinion.

Well done!

I would only add superior memory management, load balancing and improved analysis tools such as the Resource Monitor and Event Viewer. IMO.

Rep4U.

 

[ten]

I don't really like XP over Win2K but due to some issues I had to "upgrade". That being said, XP because there are only a couple of things in 7 that I like. Also, on my system, XP blows 7 away in terms of performance. Here's just one test...

P.S. Asking this question here is kinda silly. Most here are fanatical about Windows 7.

 

[Kaizen]

All things being equal hardware and compatability wise, Seven will always be faster than XP. But there are compatability issues to consider. If you use expensive serial devices or other old hardware, you might want to stay with XP. "XP mode" in Windows 7 does not help if your hardware is not supported by Windows 7. XP is not obsolete by a long shot. Stick with Service Pack 2 if you choose XP, there are numerous problems with Service Pack 3 (performance, glitches, crashing, compatability.)

 

[robcardiv]

Great answers.
sadly there is only one crippling flaw.

compatability.

Good luck trying to get XP 32bit drivers to run with Win7 64.

I love win7.
but ive only been using it for 24 hours (after using it and going back to XP).
and im already having to spend hour+ looking for

Why my Xbcd (NON 360) controller will not work in win7.
I guess the answer is out there somewhere,
but between the millions of vista answers out there. I still havent found it.
(And I doubt BING has the magic arrow either), guess ill go verify that.

 

[robcardiv]

Proof that random "Polls" are bad bad places to get your idea of truth.
apparently going to the windows7 forum and polling
XP vrs 7 is about as bias as it gets ^ ^

10 percent people voted for XP.

I would vote for 7, I enjoy it alot.
But less than 24 hours in, im already running up against incompatability.

Windows 7 is not smart enough to understand all XP drivers.
I dont care how, or why the excuses. It just isnt.

If you dont mind losing a few frames per second, and buying new hardware because old stuff (even xbox controllers, non 360) MICROSOFT hardware even... will fail to regonize.

 

[Zidane24]

Proof that random "Polls" are bad bad places to get your idea of truth.
apparently going to the windows7 forum and polling
XP vrs 7 is about as bias as it gets ^ ^

10 percent people voted for XP.

I would vote for 7, I enjoy it alot.
But less than 24 hours in, im already running up against incompatability.

Windows 7 is not smart enough to understand all XP drivers.
I dont care how, or why the excuses. It just isnt.

If you dont mind losing a few frames per second, and buying new hardware because old stuff (even xbox controllers, non 360) MICROSOFT hardware even... will fail to regonize.

Why should 7 run XP drivers? You realize that the Microsoft Driver Framework has changed a bit in 9 years...if non-microsoft hardware is not working on 7 and drivers designed for 7 are not available than it is the manufacture of the product's fault...same goes for Microsoft's incompatibility with their hardware you own in this case. I would like for you to prove a loss in Frames per second...as many have spoken to the contrary here in the forums...I would make sure I have the appropiate GFX and Chipset drivers designed for Windows 7 in this case. When a driver is designed for an OS that doesn't mean it is desgined to run on every OS afterwards...your argument on 7 running XP drivers is obsolete

BTW a 32-bit driver cannot be used on a 64-bit OS...please re-evaluate that statement.

 

[SquonkSC]

Why should 7 run XP drivers? You realize that the Microsoft Driver Framework has changed a bit in 9 years...if non-microsoft hardware is not working on 7 and drivers designed for 7 are not available than it is the manufacture of the product's fault...same goes for Microsoft's incompatibility with their hardware you own in this case. I would like for you to prove a loss in Frames per second...as many have spoken to the contrary here in the forums...I would make sure I have the appropiate GFX and Chipset drivers designed for Windows 7 in this case. When a driver is designed for an OS that doesn't mean it is desgined to run on every OS afterwards...your argument on 7 running XP drivers is obsolete

BTW a 32-bit driver cannot be used on a 64-bit OS...please re-evaluate that statement.

Don't bother Zidane.

There are some people that just don't get it, no matter how hard you try to explain.

Trying to reason with that kind of bias combined with ignorance is like fighting windmills.

Give up being a Don Quichot. I did a few hours ago.

 

[Sassa]

XP, Vista & 7 are Win 2000 descendants...
Of course 7 is the best of them!

 

[SquonkSC]

XP, Vista & 7 are Win 2000 descendants...
Of course 7 is the best of them!

Nice flag Sassa,

I would like to ask you permission to download it, edit it and make a dutch flag from it.

Greetz

 

[Sassa]

Nice flag Sassa,

I would like to ask you permission to download it, edit it and make a dutch flag from it.

Greetz

Permission granted

 

[SquonkSC]

Permission granted

Thanks man.

I don't think I'm allowed to rep you for it, but if I find out I can, I will.

greetz

 

[Muad Dib]

XP, Vista & 7 are Win 2000 descendants...
Of course 7 is the best of them!

Keep going back in time..........back..... back.....

Now.... Google "VMS and Windows NT" and check out where the original NT developers came from....

Windows NT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As Gomer Pyle would say "SURPRISE, SURPRISE!" :roflmao:VMS

 

[Kari]

Unsubscribing. Now.

Bye, Kari

 

[Klaw117]

Is 7 better than XP? Oh boy, let me count the ways....

1. Security: Before I get some of the standard "I don't need Vista/7 to protect me, I know how to secure my machine" responses, let me reiterate. There have been some flaws in Windows that an antivirus and firewall simply won't catch. A good example of this would be the SWF flaw from the early days of Vista. UAC protected against this flaw, and now with 7's revised UAC, there's no reason to jump from XP to 7, if nothing else, for the added security.

2. Performance: On every machine I've tried, ranging from old machines with Athlon 2400+ processors with 768 MB RAM, to Phenom X4's with 4 GB RAM, 7's WORST performance was on par with XP at its best. And given XP's susceptibility to "Windows Rot", I don't feel the need to format every couple of months to maintain the best speed possible. Windows 7 always feels snappy, no matter how much I load the drive up with software and other files.

3. Appearance: I realize to some, this is a non-issue, and that there are literally thousands of themes and visual styles available for XP, but with 7, I don't feel any sort of need or desire to change its appearance. Explorer looks clean IMO, and while it's argued that XP's Explorer was more customizable, 7's UI is so neat that I don't feel it needs customization. Aero looks a lot more refined than it did in Vista, and with WDDM 1.1, it's also more efficient with memory.

4. Taskbar: This might be a sub-category of Appearance, but with all the improvements made to the taskbar, I felt it deserved its own category. The way they essentially combined the old taskbar with Quick Launch makes for a very impressive and more importantly, very efficient experience. Any programs I use frequently, I just pin to the taskbar, so it's always there, and I don't have to clutter my desktop with icons or search through Quick Launch. At first I didn't even like the new taskbar because I was so used to using Quick Launch, but after using it more and more, the more I liked it.

5. Networking: Setting up a home network is still simple, like it was in Vista. I'm sure the vast majority of us know how to set up a network in XP anyways, but with 7, it's much more seamless.

There are some others like Libraries that I haven't touched on, but I haven't fooled around enough with other aspects of the OS to provide an in-depth opinion.

+1 rep here as well.

 

[Sassa]

Keep going back in time..........back..... back.....

Now.... Google "VMS and Windows NT" and check out where the original NT developers came from....

Windows NT - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

As Gomer Pyle would say "SURPRISE, SURPRISE!" :roflmao:VMS

It is true, but Win2000 was 1st commercial NT based release...
I'm using Windows since 1993 and 3.1

 

[Dinesh]

Ok.

It's not XP.

i agree with you.