Should I defragment my (18% fragmented) SSD?

[essenbe]

I agree with everything Hopalong said. I would also stay away from System mechanic too. Windows 7 is the very best at keeping itself Clean and fully functional. Many or most of these type registry cleaners and tune up utilities will mess Windows 7 up. As far as tweeks to your SSD. I would do very little. Make sure defrag is turned off, check your alignment, turn off hibernate will save you about 8GB of space on the SSD) and make sure trim is enabled. As I recall you used Paragon migrate to transfer your OS. If you did it will be aligned. But, to check these things, open an elevated command prompt (click start, type cmd in the search box, on the cmd entry that appears, right click it and select run as administrator. Copy/paste this in the command window powercfg -h off and press enter, That will disable Hibernate and save space on the SSD. after that copy/paste this into the window and press enter fsutil behavior query disabledeletenotify If it returns DisableDeleteNotify = 1 (Windows TRIM commands are disabled)
DisableDeleteNotify = 0 (Windows TRIM commands are enabled) in the same window type diskpart and press enter, in a few seconds it will respond diskpart. type 'list disk' and press enter. It will list all hard drive in or connected to your machine, each given a number. I believe you have a laptop so only 1 should be listed as disk 0. But if you have others look for your SSD and the number it was given. type select disk # (where # is the number of the disk, yours will probably be 0) example: select disk 0 and press enter, it will reply that disk 0 is now the selected disk, type list partition and press enter. It will show the disk size and offset. The offset is your alignment. As long as it is divisible by 4 it is OK. If you get a number you don't understand or you think is not right, post a screenshot here and one of us will tell you about it. Other than that, you really don't need to do anything. You can find tweeks all over the internet that recommend all sorts of things. They are not necessary and too many people have tweeked their SSD to where it no longer gives good performance. This is all I do to mine. I have 4 by 3 manufacturers and all work quite well.

 

[Mr Bass]

Hi Chaps...

Many, many thanks.


I ran the Windows experience .. that has changed in the Primary Data Transfer Rate to 7.5 so, I guess TRIM has kicked in as I have read somewhere that this forces TRIM to work when it does the system check for new hardware and calibrates the new scores.


Base score is a crappy 5.9 ..lol this is the graphic vibe to run Areo.


Processor 7.0
RAM 7.7
Graphics (desktop performance to run Aero) 5.9 ... base score :-/
Gaming Graphics 6.6
Primary Hard Disk 7.5

I will do the things essenbe has asked I'm about to copy the posting to wordpad and save to usb so I can go into the studio and run the commands..

Cheers!

 

[Mr Bass]

Just a footnote, I will uninstall System mechanic and Diskeeper just use the slow windows default one for my NON SSD drives. That way mr cock up wont be at home..lol

 

[whs]

Mr. Bass,

do yourself a favor and keep things simple. No "tuning" tools, no tweaks no playing around with the SSD. And do not be afraid that the SSD is fragile and cannot stand a lot of R/W operations - it is a lot sturdier than a spinning disk and there is no reason to move ANY system files away from it.

The only 2 actions I recommend is to move your user folders to the HDD and if you do not use hiberate, get rid of the hiberfile. The cmd command is powercfg -h off

That's all - enjoy your new SSD.

 

[Mr Bass]

Hello essenbe and whs,

I Have now kept it simple. lol very........

So I have done the tasks below.. using the run cmd...


1 TRIM is on... it was on by default ... so Win 7 did this.
2 Hibernate is now off ... 40.4 Gb free space out off the 59.6 available on the SSD drive ... which is C.
3 All 3rd party tweak tools and defraggers are off .......... totally uninstalled of the machine. I will use the default Microsoft defrag for my spinners.
4 Only O.S and music programs are on the SSD.
5 Its a music studio laptop.... so external drives are used for copious amounts of 24 bit .WAV files I never used to keep them on machines. (I have lots of cold back up drives as well)

The reason why I joined this forum is the quality of the advice.

I NEVER join forums... NEVER, but as I was new to Windows 7 operating system ... I really needed some strong advice.

I'm a music producer, mastering engineer ..lol very technical in other areas ... but this has been fun. And well many thanks for all the good advice. The music laptop runs like a charm.. lol providing I don't use Windows explorer to open folders with metadata written to .WAV files as this send it crazy.

Have a great day!

 

[whs]

Sounds good.

 

[Corazon]

Well, it should. He's a music producer.

 

[Mr Bass]

I'm about to wrap it up for today. The new laptop is running really well at producing music in the studio, I perform out on the 10th Dec ... so it has all been resolved just in time for me to gig with he machine in Sunny Berlin.

Nitey Nite..

 

[Mr Bass]

Lol .. I liked that original pun from whs about it "sounding good" ... ..

 

[essenbe]

Good night and glad you are happy. Play a good one for us.

 

[Mr Bass]

Oh.. I'll be back... I'm a muso I'm bound to screw things up a bit from time to time when it comes to Windows... but if it was a Fairchild 670 that needed tweakin... there would be no problems.. lol :devil:

 

[sablegsd]

Okay, I give up, what's a SSD?

 

[Mr Bass]

Hi,

Its Solid State Disk.

The best way to describe it as a big flash disk that replaces a conventional mechanical disk drive. So it is quicker and less prone to mechanical failure. Do a search for Solid State Disk. I have just replaced mine on my music laptop .. it boots in 7 seconds from cold.. but the bottom line is that it is best to use for a boot drive for O.S and software.

They are very expensive in comparison to conventional mechanical disks.. but they are becoming cheaper by the month. I'm sure there are loads of more senior members that can enlighten you more with technical prowess of these devices. They make Win 7 really snappy .. a lot.





http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solid-state_drive#cite_note-SNIA-101-1

 

[essenbe]

An SSD is a Solid State Drive. Unlike most hard drives it has no moving parts and are much faster than spinning hard drives. It is the speed and response time (from the time you click the mouse until the program opens) is much faster. Most spinning hard drives have a response tim of around 14-15ms. A good SSD has a response time of 0.1ms

 

[Mr Bass]

Whoops .. its late.... SOLID STATE DRIVE... there is no god damn disk.. that's the whole point to it in the first place..lol

O.K they can make you computer more responsive in real world use.

Mechanical disks need to spin, and find the data... these puppys don't ... so its a more high tech usb drive that you replace a conventional drive with. Common size is 2.5 like the same size as the drive in a laptop, but much light as it is chips they use rather than a magnetic disk and all that shielding .. you can get 3.5 sized ones.. but most users get a 2.5 and use a converter kits.. which is a bracket and various cables to fit into a desktop HD bay.

I've just been converted .. did it myself with a help from this forums senior members´.

 

[Corazon]

You've been converted? Didn't know you measured 2.5"

 

[Mr Bass]

Mini Me..

Hi, I'm originally from Lilliput. Right now I'm jumping from key to key on the human sized keyboard and pushing the mouse along. Phew!

 

[Corazon]

Hope your mouse pointer is set to its fastest speed. LOL!

Welcome Mr Bass

 

[mad duce]

+1 thank god i came across this page. I just build a new computer with SSD and normal HD and thought i was being on top of my maintenance by defrg them every week.

 

[Mr Bass]

Thanks Corazon,

Plus I'm a Ladyboy... so its even tuffer in Heels! Whoops just laddered a pair of tights... I tried to use the quote function on Sevenforums... and slipped of the enter button.............. Oh I wish I was normal sized...