Slow PC.....need some advice

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Dell, W-7, 64-bit, Intel-i5, RAM-6gig, HDD-1TB (75% full), Security-MSE.

1. I uninstalled all useless programs including Java, toolbars....etc.
2. Ran CCleaner including the Registry cleaner.
3. Ran Malwarebytes (full scan) - no viruses but tons of junk got removed.
4. Ran SuperAntiSpyware (full scan) - nothing found.
5. Disabled majority of Start-up items, just left essential programs.
6. HDD is defragmented.

After the restart PC is still sluggish, though the Task Manager shows that very few resources are used.

With the spec it has this PC should be flying....!!!!

Any advice....?

Thanks,
BBDS
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home 64bit
When was it last "flying" as you'd expect?

Any hardware changes since that date?

Is your impression that it is slow based on anything measurable or is it a "feeling"?

What i5?

How many processes running and RAM used when it is lagging?

Lagging at any particular task or in all tasks?

How is performance if you disable EVERYTHING in startup?
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home made Desktop
OS
Windows 10 Pro. 64/ version 1709 Windows 7 Pro/64
CPU
Intel i7-6800K @ 4.3
Motherboard
ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
Memory
Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 1070 OC
Monitor(s) Displays
Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
Screen Resolution
1920-1080 or 1280-720 HDMI
Hard Drives
INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
PSU
EVGA Platium 1200W
Case
Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
Cooling
XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
Mouse
Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
Browser
I.E. 11 default/Firefox/ ISP Time Warner Cable/Spectrum
Other Info
LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
When was it last "flying" as you'd expect?

Any hardware changes since that date?

Is your impression that it is slow based on anything measurable or is it a "feeling"?

What i5?

How many processes running and RAM used when it is lagging?

Lagging at any particular task or in all tasks?

How is performance if you disable EVERYTHING in startup?


This is not my PC and know nothing about its history.

i5 - is a processor.

It is lagging when I open a program like CCleaner or any other.
The lagging is noticeable, especially when I was running Malwarebytes it struggled to open any additional program, though the Task Manager was showing only 30% RAM and 3% CPU was used. Malwarebytes and TeamViewer were the only programs running then.

The PC has also several Epson printer programs installed, but I just do not think they would cause an issue + they do not start automatically.

I have 4 PCs (including an old XP) at home and they all run blazing fast. You click on a program and its up and running.

Are there any (free) diagnostic tools to help with this issue.........?


Thanks,
BBDS
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home 64bit
I know it's an i5; but there are many different i5s. Which do you have? Right click "computer" and look at properties. It should say something like "i-5 2400" or whatever.

Since you know nothing about it's history, I assume this PC has never been "fast" in your personal experience?

How many processes running typically? (processes tab of task manager, with "show processes from all users" checked.)

Look at "physical memory" on the performance tab of task manager. How much shown as total, cached, available, and free?

Repeat: any improvement if you turn off EVERYTHING in startup?

Do a reboot and open a common program like Word or Excel or CCleaner or Photoshop and tell me how many seconds it takes to open, right after the reboot.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Dell, W-7, 64-bit, Intel-i5, RAM-6gig, HDD-1TB (75% full), Security-MSE.

1. I uninstalled all useless programs including Java, toolbars....etc.
2. Ran CCleaner including the Registry cleaner.
3. Ran Malwarebytes (full scan) - no viruses but tons of junk got removed.
4. Ran SuperAntiSpyware (full scan) - nothing found.
5. Disabled majority of Start-up items, just left essential programs.
6. HDD is defragmented.

After the restart PC is still sluggish, though the Task Manager shows that very few resources are used.

With the spec it has this PC should be flying....!!!!

Any advice....?

Thanks,
BBDS

i5 , but which I5 , first , 2nd , 3rd , or 4th generation ? how many cores ? and what is your GPU ? if u experiencing no-reason-slowdown , it might be a virus , fake/ungenuine OS common problems , might even some problems with hardwares

and also do not turn off start up stuffs if u dont know its effects , i suggest go to start menu , type msconfig and choose full start up , u have 6gb ram , some extra task wont slow u down :P
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
I3-3220 3,3Ghz
Motherboard
Asus B75M-Plus
Memory
Dynet 4gb @1333Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GTX 750Ti Windforce OC'd 13%
Sound Card
Realtek
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
WD blue 500gb
Keyboard
E-Blue Cobra Reinforcement
Mouse
E-Blue Gaming Mouse
Internet Speed
580kb/s | 67kb/s
Antivirus
Bitdefender Internet Security
Browser
Google Chrome / Firefox
i5 , but which I5 , first , 2nd , 3rd , or 4th generation ? how many cores ? and what is your GPU ? if u experiencing no-reason-slowdown , it might be a virus , fake/ungenuine OS common problems , might even some problems with hardwares

and also do not turn off start up stuffs if u dont know its effects , i suggest go to start menu , type msconfig and choose full start up , u have 6gb ram , some extra task wont slow u down :P

Thank you everybody.

I will find out tomorrow about GPU, CPU and other details.

But just for my curiosity - how does virus slow down your PC, does it use huge amount of CPU or RAM....? Because when I was running Malwarebites and it struggled opening CCleaner I noticed that only 5% CPU and 30% RAM was used. When I finished with Malwarebites performance improved substantially, but still it was not flying.

This PC is no older than 5yo, even with i5 first generation it should open any 2-3 programs simultaneously without any delay, we are not talking about some advanced gaming here - am I wrong...?


Thanks,
BBDS
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home 64bit
well , i guess best shot for u now is just reinstall windows or restore it back to its origin , and trust me dont use any performance boost or speed up softwares , it will just slow your pc down even more >.<
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64
CPU
I3-3220 3,3Ghz
Motherboard
Asus B75M-Plus
Memory
Dynet 4gb @1333Mhz
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte GTX 750Ti Windforce OC'd 13%
Sound Card
Realtek
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
WD blue 500gb
Keyboard
E-Blue Cobra Reinforcement
Mouse
E-Blue Gaming Mouse
Internet Speed
580kb/s | 67kb/s
Antivirus
Bitdefender Internet Security
Browser
Google Chrome / Firefox
Really nothing other than your security software is needed in start up.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
CPU
Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory
16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling
Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Keyboard
E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse
steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
Internet Speed
48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus
Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser
IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
Other Info
4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
.......when I was running Malwarebites and it struggled opening CCleaner I noticed that only 5% CPU and 30% RAM was used. When I finished with Malwarebites performance improved substantially, but still it was not flying.

This PC is no older than 5yo, even with i5 first generation it should open any 2-3 programs simultaneously without any delay, we are not talking about some advanced gaming here - am I wrong...?

Malware scans put a good workload on the hard drive. You may have an older not so fast HD for all we know.

"Still not flying" after Malwarebytes. Compared to what? You say you know nothing of this PC's history or whether it ever "flew".

Do a reboot and then immediately do some common tasks and let us know how quickly it responds in seconds, not how it "feels".

Details on RAM usage and processes needed.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Knowing more about your system would be helpful.
These tutorial will show you how to install them properly on the forum.

By Brink:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/180324-system-info-see-your-system-specs.html

By Kari:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/311593-speccy-publish-snapshot-your-system-specs.html

Dell Inspiron 620

This is the Spec, except her PC has only 6 GIG RAM, not 8.
Dell Inspiron 620 Specs (Core i5 2310 2.9 GHz : LED 24") - Desktops - CNET Reviews

You have to agree that with this spec there should be no noticeable lag.

Next time I connect to her PC I will try to disable all Start-up items, maybe even try to run it in safe mode.

Thanks
BBDS
 
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My Computer

OS
Windows 7 Home 64bit
Layback bear provided the correct way to post specs here.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Home Built Desktop By DataTech
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate X64 SP1
CPU
Intel i5-2550K, Differing ~4.4-4.8GHz No built in GPU
Motherboard
ASUS P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3
Memory
16GB G.Skill Sniper 1866MHz @ 2133MHz 2x8GB
Graphics Card(s)
ASUS GTX650TIB-DC2OC-2GD5, (650TI Boost)
Sound Card
Onboard Realtek 5-1
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung P2570HD
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256GB SSD for OS, 500GB Seagate Constellation (Enterprise drive) for Data
PSU
Corsair HX650W
Case
Inwin Dragon Rider
Cooling
Hyper 212 EVO w/two Noctua fans, push-pull, @1300 RPM
Keyboard
E-Z Eyes, bright yellow keys with large characters
Mouse
steelseries SENSEI Laser Pro Gaming
Internet Speed
48-51Mbs Mbs down, 11 Mbs up Xfinity Cable
Antivirus
Norton Internet Security 2013
Browser
IE 10, Opera, Pale Moon if needed
Other Info
4 case fans, LG BluRay-RE, ASUS DVD-RW, Mr. Fusion power supply, 1.21 gigawatts.
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