Solved stay with 7 or go to 10

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I’m seeking advice from forum members as to whether it would be wise to try & block updates in 10. I had been using Windows 10 Pro up until the 13th of this month. My computer was updated automatically and when it booted back up I was presented with a logon screen asking for a password. Well I am the only user of this computer & haven’t had a need for a password. I was running both IE-11 & Edge browsers & was beginning to lean toward Edge due to being more stable than IE, which would stop working on many Christian sites that I visit.

I was left with the only option of reformatting & reinstalling Windows 7 Pro from the original installation disk that I purchased when I 1st built this barebones desktop.

I have a complete window 10 image made with Reflect stored on an external Hdd, but am reluctant to use it to return to 10 which I was beginning to become comfortable with. I’m in a quandary of which way to go; stay with 7 pro or try 10 again.
 

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In my personal opinion, Win 7 is a better OS than win 10.
- Win 7 is more user configurable. Win 10 don't even let you choose the updates / upgrades. You don't know or have control on what M$ is installing on your computer.
- Win 10 spy's what you do and send to M$ (that sell the info). But Google, Apple do the same.
- Generally, win 10 is more intrinsically secure.

As you already had Win 10 you can do a clean install (no key is needed), but I would stay with Win 7 Pro.
 

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Hi OldYeller,

You have NO control over updates in W10 unless you start mucking around in the registry, its called progress

What i would say in your case -- can only use IE11 on certain sites -- is the kicker
IE is available on W10, but i suspect they will lean more and more towards Edge.

Im not an old stick in the mud, in running W10 technical preview on another laptop.
For the moment id restore W7, (it should be a system builder or Retail* licence).
The Bonus being that you can transfer to W10 later for FREE as that comp is registered.

Roy

* if its Retail you can use it on ANY computer.
 

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Thanks for your input, I've used 7 since XP & find it a very stable OS just like XP was. From what I've read there are many who are not real happy with MS & 10.
 

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Use Firefox 64 or Chrome.
I don't like Chrome as it has a lot of memory resident programs, even if it's off.
 

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Megahertz; I've tried Chrome & don't care much for it Google is too restrictive. At one time it was an excellent search engine, but gotten too big like MS.
 

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Hi, all:

It's a bit of an overstatement to say that one has NO control and must RegEdit to have control over updates in all versions of Win10.

Win10 PRO and above still has GP edits to defer upgrades (I am successfully deferring AU on my OEM Win10 box and will do so a bit longer).

And this works just fine for updates:
Windows Updates - Hide or Show in Windows 10 - Windows 10 Tutorials

Having said that, you're right. It's not like the old days with Win7, where the user had pretty much full, granular control over what to install and when for each individual patch.
Given the new "WaaS" model for Win7, however, that is gone, too.
So, the "advantage" of having control over WU no longer really applies to Win7.

It is also true that MS does seem to be chipping away at features and user control for Win10.
Educational or Enterprise is the way to go.
But, unless one qualifies for those SKUs, they are not an option.

Anyway, just saying that it is (for the moment) still possible to defer UPGRADES and to hide individual UPDATES, at least in Win10 Pro (and above).

Cheers,
MM
 
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And a Win7/64 Pro laptop; And a Win10/64 Pro desktop.
I would like to thank all who responded to this thread; there was some great advice given. I guess fate worked things out for me as my old puter died (power supply & CPU), so I got a new one with 10 already installed; problem solved!
I didn't see a 'solved' but it is.
 

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For me win 7 was the best windows ever but as microsoft and intel are aiming in a win 10 future it's clearly and more safely to go with 10 :)
 

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I would like to thank all who responded to this thread; there was some great advice given. I guess fate worked things out for me as my old puter died (power supply & CPU), so I got a new one with 10 already installed; problem solved!
I didn't see a 'solved' but it is.

To avoid crashes, I found a program that will clone my C drive and my D drive. It is Drivecline II from Farstone.com
 

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I would like to thank all who responded to this thread; there was some great advice given. I guess fate worked things out for me as my old puter died (power supply & CPU), so I got a new one with 10 already installed; problem solved!
I didn't see a 'solved' but it is.
Hi,
Good deal now go here for win-10 help :p

Windows 10 Forums
 

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