Perhaps they don't want to talk to the forum member that stated that "Their style/hype of communicating things is worse than Chicken Little's and Steve Gibson's."
Perhaps they don't want to talk to the forum member that stated that "Their style/hype of communicating things is worse than Chicken Little's and Steve Gibson's."
Same problem for me. After running a ProcMon capture I couldn't figure out what caused the crash.
Then I figured that "DuckDuckGo" doesn't use a web prediction service or auto suggest as it's a search engine focused on privacy.
After some messing about trying to change the default search engine to Google which I managed to do - searches from the Whitehat home page for aabbcc.com still resulted in a DuckDuckGo search followed by a crash.
EDIT: Meant to add that searching for aabbcc.com results in the page in the screenshot below being shown but typing something like yhoo.com into the address bar now redirects to yahoo.
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Same problem for me. After running a ProcMon capture I couldn't figure out what caused the crash.
Then I figured that "DuckDuckGo" doesn't use a web prediction service or auto suggest as it's a search engine focused on privacy.
After some messing about trying to change the default search engine to Google which I managed to do - searches from the Whitehat home page for aabbcc.com still resulted in a DuckDuckGo search followed by a crash.
It just seemed likely when I thought about reasons why it might not be working.
I reckon that probably it would be better to drop the "encrypted" part from the home page URL for smooth operation!
Like I said before it's a privacy issue for me and I tend to keep such things disabled anyway. Depending on what I'm searching for I use Google most of the time but for other stuff I'll switch to Opera browser with DuckDuckGo or possibly I'll be using Aviator as it's growing on me.
The only thing is that I'm still learning about it and not spending a lot of time using it yet. I'd like to know what it does with Etags and the like. I expect that given a few months some bright sparks will have it all figured out!
My Computer
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Laptop
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ASUS
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD C-60 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X501U
Memory
4.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6290 Graphics
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
It just seemed likely when I thought about reasons why it might not be working.
I reckon that probably it would be better to drop the "encrypted" part from the home page URL for smooth operation!
Like I said before it's a privacy issue for me and I tend to keep such things disabled anyway. Depending on what I'm searching for I use Google most of the time but for other stuff I'll switch to Opera browser with DuckDuckGo or possibly I'll be using Aviator as it's growing on me.
The only thing is that I'm still learning about it and not spending a lot of time using it yet. I'd like to know what it does with Etags and the like. I expect that given a few months some bright sparks will have it all figured out!
yhoo.com is not a valid typo test. It is a domain owned by Yahoo. The yhoo web server returns pings and it is doing the redirection to yahoo.com --- not the Aviator browser or the "web service" in option being tested.
aabbcc.com is a domain owned by MIS... but there does not appear to be a web server using it. Hence the navigation error. (You might get ping results for aabbcc.com or any website depending on your DNS service/setup.)
I'll stick with the simpler aabbcc.com for testing.
With the option named "Use a web service to help resolve navigation errors" turned OFF...
...this is what I see in Aviator vs. Chrome: Callender said, "The solution was to change...."
I'm not sure that your solution to Aviator's crashing works if the end result is the same as turning off the option. Or maybe I'm missing something.
With the option named "Use a web service to help resolve navigation errors" turned ON...
...this is what I see in Aviator vs. Chrome:
Avaiator is not remembering the size of the last window closed. See the video below.
Setting aabbcc.com as the homepage, Avaiator ignored that setting after a crash. The setting was still there, but Aviator took me to the default customized search page. I have to start Avaitor a second time to get it to honor my settings. I show this twice at te end of the video. Once where I go into the settings window and once without that step.
Having to restart twice to get back to your settings is not a big deal, but it night have explain some of Callender's findings.
Notice that both browser windows start off as the same size.
I have Process Explorer's Difference Highlighting Duration* set to 9 seconds. The apps turn red once they exit, but I want to see that red line for a while. It is not taking 9 seconds for these apps to exit RAM.
*the option is called Difference Highlight Duration elsewhere.
In the video, the W7 pro 64bit VM's DNS is set to 8.8.8.8 to avoid my OpenDNS service that provides its own navigation errors help. Also, a number of MS services** are disabled just to get the list in Process Explorer smaller and to stop the list from changing (thus moving up/down) more than is already does in the video.
**services like Windows Media Player Network Sharing Service and Windows Search. I get the same results with all MS services set to their default start up values.
For your first entry in "Fix Tracking" Aviator already has "Send do not track request feature" if that is what you were getting at... I was not to find the thing to click on when you told me to find Chrome and "Click on it" ...
But i'm wondering if Collusion is an overkill, or maybe even redundant, to add to Aviator as this is currently my browser of choice with Chrome as my backup.
*UPDATE*
I looked at that site again and didn't find nothing to click on but it stated which options to disable in Chrome for increased security within the "Advanced Options" ... Which is basically to uncheck all within that section except for "Send do not track".
For your first entry in "Fix Tracking" Aviator already has "Send do not track request feature" if that is what you were getting at... I was not to find the thing to click on when you told me to find Chrome and "Click on it" ...
But i'm wondering if Collusion is an overkill, or maybe even redundant, to add to Aviator as this is currently my browser of choice with Chrome as my backup.
*UPDATE*
I looked at that site again and didn't find nothing to click on but it stated which options to disable in Chrome for increased security within the "Advanced Options" ... Which is basically to uncheck all within that section except for "Send do not track".
By the way... the option that we were discussing within Aviator, the one to "
Use a web service to help resolve navigation errors" .... if it poses a risk, as stated in your post, in Chrome... Shouldn't we just leave it disabled?
I've added HTTPS Everywhere to Chrome. Niiiiice
That whole FixTracking for Chrome link was awesome. I feel like my Chrome is so much more secure now
Thanks to UsernameIssues for pointing out a few things. It seems that I was wrong when in my earlier post I stated:
"DuckDuckGo doesn't use a web prediction service or auto suggest as it's a search engine focused on privacy."
So having done a clean reinstall of Aviator I see the following:
I've reset search provider and home page to DuckDuckGo.
As for turning on "Use a web service to help resolve navigation errors" - it doesn't want to work. I still get the crash when typing aabbcc.com into the address bar.
Switched to standard Hosts File and reverted to default DNS.
After the crash I was previously getting the message "Aviator has crashed - do you want to relaunch?" but currently I no longer see that message.
As for the uninstall - it didn't fully remove Aviator. Here are the leftovers:
I've reset search provider and home page to DuckDuckGo.
As for turning on "Use a web service to help resolve navigation errors" - it doesn't want to work. I still get the crash when typing aabbcc.com into the address bar.
Switched to standard Hosts File and reverted to default DNS.
After the crash I was previously getting the message "Aviator has crashed - do you want to relaunch?" but currently I no longer see that message.
As for the uninstall - it didn't fully remove Aviator. Here are the leftovers:
I will play follow the leader and change my homepage and search engine to duck duck go as well. Should I, though even if i have HTTPS?
One last thing, could the legacy Microsoft uninstall assistant software (not sure if that's the exact name) be used to get rid of the files left behind by a normal install? Such as the ones you mentioned? Or is it better to just delete manually?
I just meant click the arrow on the banner until it displays "Chrome"
Attempting to answer some of your other questions:
If you set default search engine to DuckDuckGo it seems to use https where possible anyway. If you use any other search engine get the https everywhere add on.
As for your question:
"Use a web service to help resolve navigation errors" .... if it poses a risk, as stated in your post, in Chrome... Shouldn't we just leave it disabled?
The only reason that I enabled it on a temporary basis was because you asked about it!
As UNI has found - there does seem to be a bug and the browser crashes under certain circumstances with this feature enabled. I suppose that this bug will be ironed out in a forthcoming release.
I'll check out collusion in Aviator and see what happens. In my case - probably not much but I'll try disabling as many anti tracking methods as I can. It's not supposed to be a permanent add on - just something to help you understand who's sending information about your surfing habits to other sites.
EDIT: DuckDuckGo seems to use https where possible.
Adding https everywhere doesn't hurt!
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My Computer
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Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD C-60 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X501U
Memory
4.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6290 Graphics
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
"Use a web service to help resolve navigation errors" .... if it poses a risk, as stated in your post, in Chrome... Shouldn't we just leave it disabled?
Yes, leave it off - but we are also attempting to help Aviator fix their problems; hence the video
Yes, Aviator sends the do not track info...
...but most websites seem to ignore that
...so you need more anti-tracking measures.
I'm not too worried about tracking...
...hence my use of OpenDNS
...which sells my DNS query data.
One last thing, could the legacy Microsoft uninstall assistant software (not sure if that's the exact name) be used to get rid of the files left behind by a normal install? Such as the ones you mentioned? Or is it better to just delete manually?
Personally whenever I uninstall anything I do a manual search for leftovers (Folders, files and registry) and delete when found. I make sure that I've got a backup though!
My Computer
Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ASUS
OS
Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit 7601 Multiprocessor Free Service Pack 1
CPU
AMD C-60 APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Motherboard
ASUSTeK COMPUTER INC. X501U
Memory
4.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon HD 6290 Graphics
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) Realtek High Defi
One last thing, could the legacy Microsoft uninstall assistant software (not sure if that's the exact name) be used to get rid of the files left behind by a normal install? Such as the ones you mentioned? Or is it better to just delete manually?
Personally whenever I uninstall anything I do a manual search for leftovers (Folders, files and registry) and delete when found. I make sure that I've got a backup though!
"Use a web service to help resolve navigation errors" .... if it poses a risk, as stated in your post, in Chrome... Shouldn't we just leave it disabled?
Yes, leave it off - but we are also attempting to help Aviator fix their problems; hence the video
Yes, Aviator sends the do not track info...
...but most websites seem to ignore that
...so you need more anti-tracking measures.
I'm not too worried about tracking...
...hence my use of OpenDNS
...which sells my DNS query data.
