Upgrade Questions

What OS for this laptop?

  • Vista x64

    Votes: 1 12.5%
  • 7 x64

    Votes: 7 87.5%

  • Total voters
    8
  • Poll closed .

merkat106

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I am upgrading the ram on my mother's laptop from 2Gb to 4GB (Corsair). Currently the OS is Vista x86 HP. I know I must upgrade the OS to x64 to make full use of the new ram, but the question is whether Vista or 7. If it was mine, I would say 7, but it isn't. I have Technet so getting a license is not a problem.

She requests the following: Windows Mail and Office 2003 (she really hates the Office 2007 ribbon). She seems resistant to use Outlook or Windows Live Mail. So, if I can get the two above applications to work on 7, I'll do it, otherwise, I'll put Vista back.

I know that there is a tutorial for installing Windows Mail on 7, but does WM really work on 7? No bugs.

And I do not know for sure if Office 2003 is compatible with 7. I'll check this soon.

I am asking for opinions on how I should proceed.

The Laptop: HP Pavilion dv9650us
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ATX Custom Build 2012
OS
Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i3-2100 @ 3.10GHz
Motherboard
Intel DH67CL desktop ATX
Memory
10 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Asus EAH5450 series (Radeon)
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 226BW, Samsung Syncmaster P2450H
Screen Resolution
226BW: 1680 x 1050 & P2450H: 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320 GB sata (boot), Samsung 640 GB sata, Seagate 2 TB sata (data)
PSU
Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500W
Case
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition
Cooling
stock cooling with added intake fan
Keyboard
HP Wireless Elite Keyboard Wireless Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft Touch
Internet Speed
Comcast Cable business class <=18Mb {averages 12Mb}
Other Info
Optical drives: LG SuperMulti Blue, HP DVD 1260T
Other: Kensington Bluetooth Receiver
Network: Buffalo Wireless N USB, DLink N router/DLink Ethernet Switch/DLink Xtreme N wireless bridge
Printer: HP Photosmart Plus, HP Officejet Pro 8600 Plus
PCs: HP dv6-3040us (7 x64 SP1), HP DM4-2165dx (7 x64 SP1), HP Pavilion zv6130us (7 x86), Apple Macbook Air (Lion)
************
Well the CPU does support 64 bit instruction, even though the frequency on it is a bit low. If ever choosing between the two I would go with win7.

...I'm a formerly jilted vista user though, so take that with a grain of salt I suppose.
Might not hurt to check on driver availability to help in the choice too.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Insane hobo technologies. ;-)
OS
Windows 7 x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard
Asrock z68 extreme 4 gen 3
Memory
G.skill Ripjaw 16gigs @ 1866
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia gtx580 (evga)
Sound Card
Integrated HD audio + hdmi
Monitor(s) Displays
24" ASUS widescreen + 42" insignia
Screen Resolution
1080p (1920x1080)
Hard Drives
128 Samsung 830
256 Samsung 840
3 x 1tb storage drive (various)
1 western digital 1tb (eSATA)
1 Seagate 1tb (eSATA)
PSU
1 kilowatt SLI/Crossfire rated Silverstone modular
Case
NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan
Cooling
Zalmann
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless 3000 (v2)
Mouse
MS - wireless 5000 (bluetrack)
Internet Speed
depends on if you ask me or my provider.
Other Info
The above information is provided as is, and the author assumes no responsibility for issues it may cause with your sanity or fanboyism.

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ATX Custom Build 2012
OS
Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i3-2100 @ 3.10GHz
Motherboard
Intel DH67CL desktop ATX
Memory
10 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Asus EAH5450 series (Radeon)
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 226BW, Samsung Syncmaster P2450H
Screen Resolution
226BW: 1680 x 1050 & P2450H: 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320 GB sata (boot), Samsung 640 GB sata, Seagate 2 TB sata (data)
PSU
Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500W
Case
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition
Cooling
stock cooling with added intake fan
Keyboard
HP Wireless Elite Keyboard Wireless Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft Touch
Internet Speed
Comcast Cable business class <=18Mb {averages 12Mb}
Other Info
Optical drives: LG SuperMulti Blue, HP DVD 1260T
Other: Kensington Bluetooth Receiver
Network: Buffalo Wireless N USB, DLink N router/DLink Ethernet Switch/DLink Xtreme N wireless bridge
Printer: HP Photosmart Plus, HP Officejet Pro 8600 Plus
PCs: HP dv6-3040us (7 x64 SP1), HP DM4-2165dx (7 x64 SP1), HP Pavilion zv6130us (7 x86), Apple Macbook Air (Lion)
************
I liked Vista, but it was so slow.
So I think you'll get a majority vote on Windows 7, because of it being superior.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom Build
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit
CPU
Intel Core i7-4790
Motherboard
GA-Z87X-D3H
Memory
G.SKILL 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3 F3-10666CL9D-8GBNT
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon R7 250
Sound Card
Realtek ALC892
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung UN32EH5000, Dell 1703FPT
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080, 1280 x 1024
Hard Drives
WD5003AZEX
WD10EZEX
Samsung HD103SJ
Samsung 128 GB 840 PRO
PSU
SeaSonic M12II SS-500GM
Case
Fractal Design Define R4
Cooling
Zalman CNPS9900ALED
Keyboard
Logitech K800
Mouse
Logitech M705
Internet Speed
16 Mbps
Antivirus
Avast
Browser
Firefox
Other Info
Bose Companion 2 Multimedia Speakers
I need my concerns addressed as mentioned in my original post. What do I do if the client wants Windows Mail & Office 2003 (not Office 2007).
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ATX Custom Build 2012
OS
Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i3-2100 @ 3.10GHz
Motherboard
Intel DH67CL desktop ATX
Memory
10 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Asus EAH5450 series (Radeon)
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 226BW, Samsung Syncmaster P2450H
Screen Resolution
226BW: 1680 x 1050 & P2450H: 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320 GB sata (boot), Samsung 640 GB sata, Seagate 2 TB sata (data)
PSU
Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500W
Case
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition
Cooling
stock cooling with added intake fan
Keyboard
HP Wireless Elite Keyboard Wireless Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft Touch
Internet Speed
Comcast Cable business class <=18Mb {averages 12Mb}
Other Info
Optical drives: LG SuperMulti Blue, HP DVD 1260T
Other: Kensington Bluetooth Receiver
Network: Buffalo Wireless N USB, DLink N router/DLink Ethernet Switch/DLink Xtreme N wireless bridge
Printer: HP Photosmart Plus, HP Officejet Pro 8600 Plus
PCs: HP dv6-3040us (7 x64 SP1), HP DM4-2165dx (7 x64 SP1), HP Pavilion zv6130us (7 x86), Apple Macbook Air (Lion)
************

said it wouldn't work for me either, but I managed to get it installed and working on the machine in the other room.

Using 07 on this one though, was able to use the key from a old dead work computer.

...however, if we are in what if land, I think you have already made your choice there.

p.s. that link just leads me to a page that spins it's wheels forever.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Insane hobo technologies. ;-)
OS
Windows 7 x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600k
Motherboard
Asrock z68 extreme 4 gen 3
Memory
G.skill Ripjaw 16gigs @ 1866
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia gtx580 (evga)
Sound Card
Integrated HD audio + hdmi
Monitor(s) Displays
24" ASUS widescreen + 42" insignia
Screen Resolution
1080p (1920x1080)
Hard Drives
128 Samsung 830
256 Samsung 840
3 x 1tb storage drive (various)
1 western digital 1tb (eSATA)
1 Seagate 1tb (eSATA)
PSU
1 kilowatt SLI/Crossfire rated Silverstone modular
Case
NZXT Phantom + additional 220 fan
Cooling
Zalmann
Keyboard
Microsoft wireless 3000 (v2)
Mouse
MS - wireless 5000 (bluetrack)
Internet Speed
depends on if you ask me or my provider.
Other Info
The above information is provided as is, and the author assumes no responsibility for issues it may cause with your sanity or fanboyism.
Hope :)

No Office 2007 - if I did, I would be instructed to take it off...
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
ATX Custom Build 2012
OS
Windows 7 Enterprise x64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core i3-2100 @ 3.10GHz
Motherboard
Intel DH67CL desktop ATX
Memory
10 GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Asus EAH5450 series (Radeon)
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung SyncMaster 226BW, Samsung Syncmaster P2450H
Screen Resolution
226BW: 1680 x 1050 & P2450H: 1920 x 1080
Hard Drives
Western Digital 320 GB sata (boot), Samsung 640 GB sata, Seagate 2 TB sata (data)
PSU
Cooler Master Extreme Power Plus 500W
Case
Thermaltake V3 Black Edition
Cooling
stock cooling with added intake fan
Keyboard
HP Wireless Elite Keyboard Wireless Keyboard
Mouse
Microsoft Touch
Internet Speed
Comcast Cable business class <=18Mb {averages 12Mb}
Other Info
Optical drives: LG SuperMulti Blue, HP DVD 1260T
Other: Kensington Bluetooth Receiver
Network: Buffalo Wireless N USB, DLink N router/DLink Ethernet Switch/DLink Xtreme N wireless bridge
Printer: HP Photosmart Plus, HP Officejet Pro 8600 Plus
PCs: HP dv6-3040us (7 x64 SP1), HP DM4-2165dx (7 x64 SP1), HP Pavilion zv6130us (7 x86), Apple Macbook Air (Lion)
************

Office 2003 is compatible with Windows 7, both 32 and 64 bit versions. The above link recommends upgrading; it doesn't declare it to be incompatible.

I've switched to Office 2010, but I used 2003 on Win7 Home Premium X64 for about a year before that. Micorosft Document Imaging was incompatible, but the main applications ran just fine.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
homegrown
OS
Windows 7 Pro X64 SP1
CPU
Intel Core I7-3930k
Motherboard
Asus P9X79 Pro
Memory
16 GB Gskill DDR3-2133
Graphics Card(s)
eVGA GTX680
Sound Card
Creative X-Fi Titanium
Monitor(s) Displays
As PA246Q
Screen Resolution
1920 X 1200
Hard Drives
Corsair Force GT, 120 GB
WDC 1.5TB Caviar Black
PSU
PCP&C Silencer 750 Crossfire
Case
Silverstone FT02
Cooling
Noctua NH-D14
Keyboard
cheap Logitech USB
Mouse
Microsoft Intellimouse Explorer (old optical) USB
Internet Speed
6Mb cable
Other Info
Pioneer BDR-205
Samsung SH-203B
Monsoon 5.1 speakers
The only real noticable difference between Windows Mail and Windows Live Mail is perhaps the name. Otherwise they are functionally almost identical.

I'd go with Office 2007 or Office 2010 because of better performance and security, but there's nothing wrong with Office 2003. Just keep in mind that in order to be able to read Office 2007/2010 files, you'll need to also install the Office Compatibility update.

As for the OS? Windows 7 all the way...
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Virtual Machine
OS
Windows 7 Professional 32-bit SP1
CPU
AMD A4/A6
Motherboard
Intel Corporation 440BX Desktop Reference Platform
Memory
3.00GB EDO
Graphics Card(s)
VMware SVGA 3D
Sound Card
High Definition Audio Device
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic Non-PnP Monitor on VMware SVGA 3D
Screen Resolution
1440x900
Hard Drives
1 x 60GB VMware Virtual SATA Hard Drive ATA Device
Antivirus
Kaspersky Total Security
According to this Microsoft page, Office 2003 is compatible with Windows 7. So if you must use this version (I guess you must if your mom says so, right?) then you should be OK.

I tend to use web-based email these days, so I can't say much about Windows Mail (Live or otherwise), but previously I was using Thunderbird. I also saw other people using Outlook ad other clients, I did not see a lot of difference, they say Outlook is not secure though.

That said and having voted for 7 x64, I would recommend installing Windows 7 32-bit on your laptop, even if you are putting in 4 GB of memory. I am using 64-bit myself, but to be honest, compared to my dad's 32-bit version, there is not much difference or advantages, especially for mundane tasks - text editing, internet and email, and so on. I guess your mom is not a gamer, right? She probably does not run memory intensive calculations as well. Video editing? Maybe, but then you would need a more powerful machine. For general users, I think 32-bit is still simpler to use, there are less compatibility issues, and less possible confusion.
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Inspiron 530
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate (x64)
CPU
Q6600
Memory
8 GB
Graphics Card(s)
ATI Radeon HD 2600 XT
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung Syncmaster P2450
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
Samsung HD103UJ
Samsung HD501LJ
Internet Speed
25 Mb/s
The only thing with Windows Live Mail which has made me leave it alone is once installed it started to download EVERYTHING from my gmail account, even though I chose unread items only (but I suppose everything was unread to the program). Then after I realised 3Gb's had been 'lost' I found the problem & deleted.

Thing was Live Mail then deleted all my mails from the Google server. :mad:

Go with 7
 

My Computer

Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Toshiba Satellite L500
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium x64 OEM --> RTM clean install
CPU
Intel T4400
Motherboard
? - laptop inbuilt ?
Memory
4Gb
Graphics Card(s)
? - Mobile Intel(R) 4 Series Express Chipset Family ?
Sound Card
Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
? + extended to a 42" LG55PC plasma tele!
Screen Resolution
1366 * 768
Hard Drives
320Gb 5500rpm
PSU
?
Case
?
Cooling
?
Internet Speed
3Meg, when it works.
Other Info
A LOWLY LAPTOP!
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