Water cooling

[thefabe]

Just went through some more of the boxes of items I bought in a pallet check out this radiator fan setup. Radiatop is bloue anodizxed with 1/2 in tubing 3 cores 2 3/4 inches thick and 11 inches long with 2 120 mm coloer master aluminum fans. Just for kicks I made a cardboard side plate and hooked them up to the side of my case. The temps droped 9c on gpu and 10 c on GFX card. Just crazy thougth I'd share. going to list it on ebay wanted to have some input. Oh the fans are connected together with one cable leading to a MB fan controller the other runs them both. Thanks Fabe

 

[Lordbob75]

Hey, (resurrecting dead thread)

Could you give any advice on water cooling kits? I was thinking of water cooling my beast, just for the heck of it. However, I cannot find a lot of information on a good starting kit.

I would be cooling my CPU and GPU. I also have a nice spot on the top of my case for a reservoir to fit (cooler master haf 932)/

~Lordbob

 

[Everlong]

Hey, (resurrecting dead thread)

Could you give any advice on water cooling kits? I was thinking of water cooling my beast, just for the heck of it. However, I cannot find a lot of information on a good starting kit.

I would be cooling my CPU and GPU. I also have a nice spot on the top of my case for a reservoir to fit (cooler master haf 932)/

~Lordbob

Check this site out: Watercooling UK - PC Liquid Cooling Shop, Specialist Case Modding and Performance Overclocking

It's an English site, but you can get an idea of what kind of stuff to get. It has some great sets of kits on listed here XSPC, Swiftech and WCUK Watercooling kits - Easy to install, all in one!! >> Watercooling UK

And just for the record, you have space at the top of your case for a radiator, not reservoir XSPC do some of the best pumps, and a lot of them are reservoirs with the pump built in, which saves space.

 

[Lordbob75]

And just for the record, you have space at the top of your case for a radiator, not reservoir XSPC do some of the best pumps, and a lot of them are reservoirs with the pump built in, which saves space.

No, it is most certainly a reservoir.

On the back half of the case, there is a big 230mm fan on top. This can be replaced with 4 120mm fans, which is where I think you could mount the radiator.
On the front of my case (the top front that is), there is a little 12cm by 13cm silicone cover that you pull up. Underneath this is the fillport (it even says that on the cover) where you can fill the resevoir without opening the case.

Perhaps you thought I meant the fan, or maybe I worded it wrong.

Thanks for the links, I will check those out.

~Lordbob

EDIT: I should ask: I found a great site (http://www.frozencpu.com/) that has lots of stuff. Would it be possible to just pick out each individual part? Like buy a reservoir, pump, tubes, radiator, and mounts? I would be EXTREMELY worries about comparability.

 

[Everlong]

I see what you mean with the reservoir space now. Only problem with that is you'd need to find a reservoir that would line up with that fill hole.

There's not that much compatiblity between each part apart from the tubing size. Different tubing size has it's advantages and disadvantages, like 1/2" offers greater water flow, so better performance, and is generally used more, so easier to find components to fit it, but then it blocks airflow more with being physically larger, increased sidewards pressure on sockets, and a higher chance of kinking (though anti-kink coils help this)

Then there's smaller sizes like 3/8" which is easier to bend being smaller, and in some cases can offer greater performance as the water travels faster with it being narrower, but there's less components that use this tubing size.

As for other stuff like the CPU block, you just choose one that fits your CPU socket.

 

[Lordbob75]

I see what you mean with the reservoir space now. Only problem with that is you'd need to find a reservoir that would line up with that fill hole.

There's not that much compatiblity between each part apart from the tubing size. Different tubing size has it's advantages and disadvantages, like 1/2" offers greater water flow, so better performance, and is generally used more, so easier to find components to fit it, but then it blocks airflow more with being physically larger, increased sidewards pressure on sockets, and a higher chance of kinking (though anti-kink coils help this)

Then there's smaller sizes like 3/8" which is easier to bend being smaller, and in some cases can offer greater performance as the water travels faster with it being narrower, but there's less components that use this tubing size.

As for other stuff like the CPU block, you just choose one that fits your CPU socket.

Yeah, there is that problem.

Thanks a lot Everlong, that actually really helps.

~Lordbob

 

[Everlong]

You're welcome, glad I could help

 

[Lordbob75]

Could you give any advice on pumps? Not sure exactly what I should be looking for in one, besides not being too big.

Also, I really like the compression fittings compared to barbs, any thoughts there?

And I am rather lost on radiators. I would love to have one that fits right where my top fan is now (on the inside), but I am not sure what to look for

~Lordbob

 

[A Guy]

Lordbob, you might find these links useful:

[Project] My HAF 932 Water-Cooling Build *56K Warning* - Vista Forums

Cooler Master HAF 932 Case Review - Page 12

YouTube - Watercooling build Part1 - CoolerMaster HAF932 Case Modding results

A Guy

 

[Everlong]

Well pumps are measured in the head preassure (metres/hour, or ft/hour) and the amount it can pump in litre/hour (or gallon/hour). 12V pumps are better as you connect these to your PSU. AC pumps need an external power connection.

The type of fitting is all down to personal preference really, though I do prefer compression fittings as well, even though you need to take the inner diameter of the tubing as well as the outer diameter in to consideration, whereas with barb you just need the inner diameter, but that's not really a problem to match sizes.

Radiator sizes in length are pretty simly. They're simply sized by the amount of 120mm fans you can fit on one, so a 120 radiator is simply a single 120mm fan, 240 = 2 fans and so on.

 

[Lordbob75]

Lordbob, you might find these links useful:

[Project] My HAF 932 Water-Cooling Build *56K Warning* - Vista Forums

Cooler Master HAF 932 Case Review - Page 12

YouTube - Watercooling build Part1 - CoolerMaster HAF932 Case Modding results

A Guy

Thanks for the link of XGs build. That helps a lot.

Well pumps are measured in the head preassure (metres/hour, or ft/hour) and the amount it can pump in litre/hour (or gallon/hour). 12V pumps are better as you connect these to your PSU. AC pumps need an external power connection.

The type of fitting is all down to personal preference really, though I do prefer compression fittings as well, even though you need to take the inner diameter of the tubing as well as the outer diameter in to consideration, whereas with barb you just need the inner diameter, but that's not really a problem to match sizes.

Radiator sizes in length are pretty simly. They're simply sized by the amount of 120mm fans you can fit on one, so a 120 radiator is simply a single 120mm fan, 240 = 2 fans and so on.

Again Everlong, thank you. I think I know what I will be looking for now, and I know I need a 240 radiator (using the top CD drive for the reservoir).

~Lordbob

 

[thefabe]

This moght give youa place to start. Water-Cooling Systems Roundup: 16 Systems Reviewed! - X-bit labs And not suggesting your a begginner but A Beginner's Guide For WaterCooling Your PC : Introduction Hope this will help. Here is just a google search for watercooling kits. Fabe water cooling kits - Google Product Search I actually sold the unit posted on the bay for 36.48 surprised.

 

[bobtran]

I use this:
Thermaltakeusa*»*Thermaltakeusa*»*BigWater 760is : BigWater 760is CL-W0121

I have more than pleased with my system. I went to this solution when I started running dual video cards and overclocking my Q6600. Currently with stock settings I average about 42C-45C. Pushing my system with overclock to 3.0ghz and Crysis I average about 55C.

Good luck with your quest.....it IS worth it.

 

[Lordbob75]

Thank you Fabe, good links.

Bobtran, I saw that and really didn't like that particular model. I can be picky sometimes, and I know EXACTLY how I want my system set up. I just have to hope that the parts exist to do so. So far, it seems that they do, except for a GPU block. Seems the 260 is not a popular water cooled part?

~Lordbob

 

[bobtran]

Look around the site and you will find many other models that might fit your needs better including water cooled cases, external radiator, etc...I was just telling you what I found to work for me....I am please with the product line, not recommending that exact model for you.

Waterblock for 260 here: Koolance GeForce GTX 280/260 Waterblock

 

[Lordbob75]

Look around the site and you will find many other models that might fit your needs better including water cooled cases, external radiator, etc...I was just telling you what I found to work for me....I am please with the product line, not recommending that exact model for you.

Waterblock for 260 here: Koolance GeForce GTX 280/260 Waterblock

I saw that one, but for that price, I will pass on a GPU block for now.

Maybe later.

So far, here is what I have picked out:
Pump: Koolance PMP-450 $100

Radiator: Koolance 2x120mm, Copper (High Flow) - $60 (2 APEVIA CF12SL-UBL 120mm Blue LED Case Fans at $8 ea)
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Reservoir: Danger Den Bay Reservoir (1 bay) - $35
Fittings: Koolance Compression Fitting Nozzles (ID: 13mm OD: 16mm) (cost added)
Tubing: Koolance Green UV PVC (ID: 13mm OD: 16mm) - $1.80 per foot
Tube Wrap: Maybe Later

Total comes to around $235...

~Lordbob