What Should I Do Next With My PC?

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Hello all,

I currently have this PC that I am using for gaming and my other daily tasks. I have some things I'd like to do, but my budget won't cover it all at once. I'd like help deciding what to do first.

Okay, so here are my pc specs:

Intel core i5 650 CPU 3.20ghz

4gb ddr3 ram

Corsair CX600M psu (600 watts)

windows 7 as my operating system

120gb SSD + 1tb HDD

Nvidia GTX 650Ti BOOST GPU

This mobo is from around 2009-2010 so the CPU is a bit old as well as it's a dual core and not a quad core.

I have several options with a budget of 200 dollars (might get to 250 in the future, not sure):

- I can get a core i7 870 cpu that's a quad core instead of this dual core, but then I'll risk taking off my cpu fan and not putting it back on properly. I probably should take it to the store to do that..

- I can get a new or more powerful, used GPU, although I'm afraid any higher than my current will be bottle necked by the CPU. Well it already is... unless I get the core i7 cpu? not sure

- I can take it to the pc store to get a water cooling system installed in replace of the fans in my system :D

- I can have it get serviced and fixed up on the inside, and maybe a fresh install of windows 7 or 8 on the pc that they'll do for me.



I already am upgrading the ram to 8gb, as it is on it's way here.

So that's it. I can only do one of those with my budget and I have no idea which one to choose because they all seem very nice. Which seems like the most needed one to you all?

I'd love to hear your thoughts, thanks
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Maingear Custom PC
OS
Windows 7 Pro
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600k @4.6Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD4-B3
Memory
16 GB DDR3 1600mhz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980Ti
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Curved MSI 144hz 1ms
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD
PSU
Seasonic 650 Watts Gold Rating
Case
Custom Maingear Case
Cooling
60mm Maingear Liquid Cooling CPU
Keyboard
Basic Wireless Keyboard
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Basic Wireless Mouse
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Microsoft Security Essentials
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Google Chrome (Latest Version)
Hard drives OK. Operating system OK.

I'd be reluctant to put a more powerful processor on that existing motherboard. As you say--it's 2009/2010 era stuff. But your limited budget may force that.

Current generation Intel processors typically use DDR4 RAM. If you are committed to DDR3, then you are restricted to Haswell or earlier motherboards--ignoring whether or not your particular DDR3 will work on any specific motherboard.

A recent generation quad core processor and motherboard is likely to cost a minimum of 250, more likely 300.

Would you consider buying a used CPU and motherboard?


I wouldn't think a water cooling setup or a reinstall of Windows would be a top priority unless you are having significant unmentioned problems. You don't mention any heat problems or Windows issues.

The i5-650 scores 3142 on the Passmark benchmark. The i7-870 scores 5461. That difference would likely be noticeable, but not a night and day difference.

A used i7-870 costs roughly 80 to 100 on ebay.

What would I do? I'd wait until I could spend at least $300 and get off the 2009 technology entirely.

If you can't or won't wait, then just get the strongest processor that is compatible with your current motherboard.
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Hard drives OK. Operating system OK.

I'd be reluctant to put a more powerful processor on that existing motherboard. As you say--it's 2009/2010 era stuff. But your limited budget may force that.

Current generation Intel processors typically use DDR4 RAM. If you are committed to DDR3, then you are restricted to Haswell or earlier motherboards--ignoring whether or not your particular DDR3 will work on any specific motherboard.

A recent generation quad core processor and motherboard is likely to cost a minimum of 250, more likely 300.

Would you consider buying a used CPU and motherboard?


I wouldn't think a water cooling setup or a reinstall of Windows would be a top priority unless you are having significant unmentioned problems. You don't mention any heat problems or Windows issues.

The i5-650 scores 3142 on the Passmark benchmark. The i7-870 scores 5461. That difference would likely be noticeable, but not a night and day difference.

A used i7-870 costs roughly 80 to 100 on ebay.

What would I do? I'd wait until I could spend at least $300 and get off the 2009 technology entirely.

If you can't or won't wait, then just get the strongest processor that is compatible with your current motherboard.

Alright, thank you very much for the help. I'll have to think it over because I'm a little uncomfortable buying another CPU and motherboard when I've just gotten this one, but I see what you mean. I'm just trying to do what's best for my comfort and convenience.

My CPU does get hot when under full load like in the late 80's early 90's Celsius but that's because the stock fan is very bad, i believe.

I'll most likely get the 1st gen i7 and once I get enough money again, I'll probably be ready for a new PC by that time. I'm also wanting to avoid the new 6th gen CPU's because they make it very hard to install windows 7 as far as I'm aware. I'll be able to follow what you said though when the time comes, it really did help me. Thank you so much.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Maingear Custom PC
OS
Windows 7 Pro
CPU
Intel Core i7 2600k @4.6Ghz
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-Z68X-UD4-B3
Memory
16 GB DDR3 1600mhz
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980Ti
Sound Card
Onboard
Monitor(s) Displays
Curved MSI 144hz 1ms
Screen Resolution
1920x1080
Hard Drives
250GB Samsung 860 Evo SSD
PSU
Seasonic 650 Watts Gold Rating
Case
Custom Maingear Case
Cooling
60mm Maingear Liquid Cooling CPU
Keyboard
Basic Wireless Keyboard
Mouse
Basic Wireless Mouse
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials
Browser
Google Chrome (Latest Version)
I'll most likely get the 1st gen i7 and once I get enough money again, I'll probably be ready for a new PC by that time. I'm also wanting to avoid the new 6th gen CPU's because they make it very hard to install windows 7 as far as I'm aware. I'll be able to follow what you said though when the time comes, it really did help me. Thank you so much.

Win 7 is cranky about installing on Skylake, but I did it a couple of months ago--but yeah, there's no over-riding reason to go with Skylake rather than Haswell, particularly if you are on a budget.

Re cooling: if you are going to change processors anyway, I wouldn't buy the cooling setup first. I'd get the new processor and then re-evaluate. i-7s do tend to run hotter than i-5s.

I don't know anything about your case or fan setup, but it's possible your temps could be knocked down a bit by better case fans, even with the same cooler.

If I recall correctly, those early i5s and i7s ran pretty hot, compared to more recent generations.

If on a budget, you also have to consider that a new cooler that is compatible with an i7-870 motherboard may or may not be compatible with a recent generation motherboard. Just as the RAM for an i7-870 board may not be compatible with a newer generation board.
 

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Ignatz Special; 4 speed manual gearbox; factory air conditioning; one of one
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium SP1, 64-bit
CPU
Intel Skylake i5-6600K, not overclocked
Motherboard
AsRock Z170M Extreme 4, micro ATX
Memory
8 GB HyperX DDR4-2666 (2 x 4 GB)
Graphics Card(s)
none; graphics are integrated on CPU
Sound Card
onboard: Realtek ALC1150; external: USB Behringer UF0-202
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell S2340M 23 inch IPS
Screen Resolution
1600 x 900
Hard Drives
System: Crucial MX100 series SSD, 128 GB;
Data: Samsung Spinpoint 103SJ, 1 TB;
Backup: WD Caviar Green WD30EZRX-00D8PB0, 3 TB
PSU
Rosewill SilentNight 500 watt fanless, semi-modular
Case
Antec Solo II
Cooling
Noctua NH-U12S; Noctua F12 intake, Noctua S12A exhaust
Keyboard
Microsoft 200 6JH-00001 USB
Mouse
Dell or Microsoft optical wired; USB
Antivirus
Microsoft Security Essentials and Malwarebytes Premium
Browser
Pale Moon
Other Info
All fans PWM; speeds at idle: CPU circa 500 rpm; intake circa 600 rpm; exhaust circa 600 rpm; CPU temps 27 idle and 47 C load in a warm room (27 C/81 F) when running Intel Extreme Tuning Utility stress test.
Hi,
Yep I have an old Acer 2009 mobo once i added quad core and a much better cpu cooler it's great now.
I'm sure some deals are around it's not like you live in the far east.. where dealers are limited :)

Amazon was where I found my Q9550 cpu for I believe 75.us ? plus 7.00 insurance do not forget this it covers replacement and shipping :)
Had to go through 4 cpu's and 2 venders to get one that was stable temperature wise but finally did :party:

But yea the cpu/ cooler/ and ram would be the best starting point.
After those 3 items everything is down hill.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
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FireFox & Pale moon
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