When does System Restore delete "old" System Restore Points?

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When does System Restore delete "old" System Restore Points?

A few days ago, there were 3-4 SR points in the list.

Today there is only 1. Nothing significant has changed on the system.
 

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When does System Restore delete "old" System Restore Points?

A few days ago, there were 3-4 SR points in the list.

Today there is only 1. Nothing significant has changed on the system.


Have you done any defragmenting and if so, with what defragmenter?
 

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When does System Restore delete "old" System Restore Points?

Hi Darkstar,

Open control panel, open system, click on the system protection tab, then the configure button under protection settings. Then you'll see how much memory system restore has used. You can set it to whatever you want to. It also mentions that as space fills up older restore points will be deleted to make room for new ones.

I have no idea where your missing restore points have gone, but here's how I manage mine.
 

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When does System Restore delete "old" System Restore Points?

A few days ago, there were 3-4 SR points in the list.

Today there is only 1. Nothing significant has changed on the system.

Restore points can get large if you have save old versions of file enabled. Also if you have large video files. When I'm getting ready to defrag I either delete or park any video files on my system disk to an external. Then I'll make a new restore point. I use CCleaner to delete all but that new one. Then defrag. If video files are under one of the folders that restore backs up, you can get some really large restore points. If the disk space usage setting is conservative then the system may delete them to make room for the new one.
 

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HP Media Center
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Windows 7 32 bit
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AMD 5200+ dual core
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CRT
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500 GB Sata internal :

SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives
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Thanks, guys.

Have you done any defragmenting and if so, with what defragmenter?
Nope, no defragging. I have NIS 2012 but "Insight Optimizer" (which calls Windows Defrag) is disabled

Open control panel, open system, click on the system protection tab, then the configure button under protection settings. Then you'll see how much memory system restore has used. You can set it to whatever you want to. It also mentions that as space fills up older restore points will be deleted to make room for new ones.

I have no idea where your missing restore points have gone, but here's how I manage mine.
Yep, I had already checked that, which is where I initially saw that the sapce used had decreased.

Restore points can get large if you have save old versions of file enabled. Also if you have large video files. When I'm getting ready to defrag I either delete or park any video files on my system disk to an external. Then I'll make a new restore point. I use CCleaner to delete all but that new one. Then defrag. If video files are under one of the folders that restore backs up, you can get some really large restore points. If the disk space usage setting is conservative then the system may delete them to make room for the new one.
No new large files, as far as I can see. Where do I see if "old versions" is enabled and turn it off? Similarly for "conservative" disk space usage?
 

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Scan 3XS P55 liteDAW
OS
Windows Home Premium (64)
CPU
Intel Core i7 860
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Gigabyte GA-P55A-UD4
Memory
8GB (4x2GB) Corsair TwinX XMS3
Graphics Card(s)
1GB Gainward 9500 GT
Sound Card
M-Audio Delta 66
Monitor(s) Displays
Acer v223wBBd
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
1 x 500 GB WD Barracuda (OS+Docs)
2 x 1TB Samsung Spinpoint F3 (Data)
PSU
Enermax EMD625AWT II - 625W Enermax Modu82+ II
Case
Fractal Design Define R2 Black
Cooling
Prolima Megahalems Super 6 Heatpipe Tower Cooler
Keyboard
Microsoft Digital Media Pro
Mouse
Belkin Optical Ergo
Internet Speed
8 Mbps nominal (14.9 achieved !)
Other Info
Digital Audio Workstation
The "save old versions of files" may not be in the settings on Home Premium. But you may be able to recover some old versions of files using Shadow Explorer free program. Windows must save the files by default for Shadow Explorer to work. I guess it amounts to on Ultimate(or whatever Windows flavors support that setting) you can turn it off to make smaller restore points.

Also there may be some command line method to override settings missing in the Gui. Like in Vista there's no setting controlling the percentage of the disk space reserved for restore points. But you can set it from the command line. For example, I use this on my Vista64 system to set it to 24 GB max:

vssadmin Resize ShadowStorage /For=C: /On=C: /Maxsize=24GB

You probably need to run such commands from an administrative command prompt. I'm sure there's an article in the Tutorials how to open an Admin Command Prompt. Just search if you need directions.
 

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HP Media Center
OS
Windows 7 32 bit
CPU
AMD 5200+ dual core
Memory
2 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce 6150SE 128 MB
Monitor(s) Displays
CRT
Screen Resolution
1280x1024
Hard Drives
500 GB Sata internal :

SIIG USB 3.0 docking stations w/WD Caviar Black 6 Gb/s drives
Keyboard
PS/2
Mouse
PS/2 Wheel Mouse
Other Info
SIIG USB 3.0 PCIexpress card.
October "Patch Tuesday" was a few days ago.
Did you apply the updates for this?
You can look in Windows Update History to see if/when these updates were installed.
 

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In post #6 Insight Optimizer
Been doing a little Goggling and it seem that Norton's Insight Optimizer is still some what a mystery. It could be removing some restore points to optimize your system. I defrag using the CMD Prompt. Just type in defrag and you will get various options to pick from. I use this
defrag C: /U /V
I know of no optimizer no mater what brand needed or wanted by Windows 7.
 

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ASUS X-99 Deluxe II
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Corsair Platinum 16 gig @2400
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EVGA GTX 1070 OC
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Asus 27" LED LCD/VE278Q
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INTEL SSD 730-240 Gb Sata 3.0/
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Phanteks Luxe Tempered Glass 8 fans/ one radiator
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XSPC/ Water Cooled CPU
Keyboard
Das 4 Professional
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Logitech M705/MX Anywhere 2-S
Internet Speed
100 mbits
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Microsoft Security Essentials/ Malwarebytes Premium 3.0/ SAS
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LG BluRay Burner/
Sound system-KLipsch-THX/
Icy Dock ssd Hot Swap bays.
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