Why do have the people on this thread assume the user is to blame for his/her problem with firefox. You will find that a lot of people don't like firefox, which is why chrome has become as popular as it has in such a short time. A lot of people have problems with firefox running slowly or crashing regularly, even after deleting cookies, browsing data, and what have you. If you don't have problems, good for you, but don't assume everyone that does run into a problem is to blame, just like we don't like people blaming their problems on Bill Gates or Win7.
BTW can I see some secondary source stating that all your browsing data gets sent to google? I see people saying it, but no evidence for it. And chromes speed and reliability has a lot to do with the fact that it opens a new process for all tabs and plug-ins.
How about the fact that the OP has confirmed that their HDD is 0% fragmented, and that they use now toolbars, plugins or extensions but everyone keeps saying that it is the users fault because they use to many plugins and don't defrag their HDD or do other simple maintenance.
Also, you're reaching a lot on what you say about Chrome. Let me guess. MS makes a unique product ID on every computer with Windows to track everything you do one them.
Thanks for the reasonable and rational posts and satire. It was needed to ease the air.
I see that another person, whose judgement has a clear perspective is not clouded any hint of fanboyism. Note that I'm not insinuating that anyone who defends Firefox is a Firefox fanboy. Only those who fervently defend it without taking a step back to look at the whole picture are.
If I drive a car without ever doing basic maintenance like say changing oil and filters I can't possibly blame BMW or Dodge for building such unreliable cars.
As for your notions about chrome being wrongfully accused: Do you really think Google put a unique ID in each of their browsers because they were bored....or even that this has been done with the users best interest in mind?
Didn't think so.
Excuse me, I call it as I see it.
I'm just very pragmatic: If somebody enters a bank with a ski mask over their head I don't automatically assume they're having a winter social I didn't know about.
-DG
The car starts to degrade in performance within 1 month of buying it. Should I blame BMW or Dodge?
Hell Yes I should.
The reasonable expectation would be that it should stay in tip top condition for at least a year because all my other cars did so, including the previous car I bought from them.
Firefox starts lagging within a day... while it didn't use to.
I have a minimal level of standards set already, thanks to Firefox. (see rising expectations & relative deprivation) To add fuel to the fire, another browser like Chrome doesn't lag like Firefox.
I know firefox is free and I have no right to complain. But hey, I'm not giving nonconstructive complains like "F** this sucks"; I'm giving proper feedback about the causes of the problem.
Now, let's alter the car scenario a bit to tailor it to my case.
I'm smart enough to only use clean petrol, which doesn't damage my filters.
(think programs and AV software)
I also make sure I don't drive on bumpy lousy roads. Neither do I drift.
(think malicious websites, overclocking and other abuses of the PC)
I'm also smart enough to avoid parking my expensive car out on the road at night so that thieves won't get a chance to mess around with my car.
(think clicking on malicious links that have a stupid/unbelieveable promise)
As such, I only do a minimal amount of maintenance. It can't be my fault that the car starts to seriously degrade in performance within 1 month of buying it right?
Well, the original poster is making a statement that Firefox has gotten bad and that seems to insinuate it must be that same way for everybody using it.
This is why some of us firefox users and responding back...because we aren't seeing or experiencing the same problems as the OP. Therefore, there must be something different about our setups.
This is one of the best comments from the Firefox supporters and defenders.
I'm on the fence.
Well, the original poster is making a statement that Firefox has gotten bad and that seems to insinuate it must be that same way for everybody using it.
No I didn't insinuate it must be that same way for everybody using it. I didn't say anything along the lines of "everybody is having problems with firefox".
I'm sure that you can tell that the opinions were
all mine. Mine!
Do I need to add a "for me" at the end of every sentence to make that crystal clear?
Didn't think so.
because we aren't seeing or experiencing the same problems as the OP. Therefore, there must be something different about our setups.
That might be the case. But what would it be?
None of you have mentioned anything about your setups.
In my opinoin(and yes, it's just an opinion) I wouldn't say that anyone means bad as in "not good"
Why did I move away from FF? I loved FF years ago, it was great, flawless and fast. In my experience, it's not that FF has gotten bad really. It's just that I compare how FF3+ runs compared to the previous versions that I loved. I liked FF for the reason of speed, which, compared to what it used to be, simply isn't the same. I rarely ever used any extentions aside from the more important 2 or 3.
I have never actually had a real "problem" with FF3+ , it's just that it isn't the same. I still have FF3 as a backup since I use Opera as my main, but after messing with IE8 and now the 9 beta, I see no advantage of FF over IE at all, they're both comparably slow-ER, not necessarily slow.
On another note.....the plan to have extentions in Opera now kinda pisses me off. I always liked this browser because it was simple and fast.. I just worry that it's going to be another FF. Who knows, maybe i'll just go to IE9 when it finally arrives.
I did like FF4 beta a lo for the time I used it though.
True... My sentiments though I didn't think of that when I was posting this.
EDIT: Also, don't say a word about switching to Chrome. Sick of google, don't trust Chrome, whether what is said is true or not. I won't ever touch it.
Chrome is the only stop-gap solution, which is fast, that I know of and have at the moment... until Firefox gets its frickin act back together. I hope Firefox does so soon.
