Will I lose all of my files with upgrade?

[element4life3]

I have just downloaded the new ISO image of the latest build of 7, 6956. the specific one I downloaded is "ULTIMATE_GB1CFRE_EN_DVD_6956.iso" I am planning on mounting it on a virtual drive with Daemon tools to install it.

My question is if I am going from Vista to 7 am I going to have to start from scratch when installing 7 or do I have the option to just upgrade and not lose all of my files and data? I know there will be this option with the final release but for these alphas can I still keep all my files?

 

[darkassain]

it depends if you a 64 system then yes since this is a 32 bit iso
if your Vista is 32 bit you wont loose most configuration options

just one thing
do not use daemon tools burn it to a dvd...
such will cause errors....
since deamon tools is incompatible with 7


forgot to tell you there is an upgrade option available in windows 7 choose that one...

 

[napilopez]

As far as I know, you cannot upgrade without starting fresh. I do not know how these virtual disk thingamajiggs work at all, as I've never used one.

However, what you could do is partition your hard drive if you only have one. This way you can dual boot the operating systems. You can easily partition your drive form Vista's disk manager. Once you do that, you will be able to simply install 7 onto the new partition, and once you perform a small tweak to allow 7 to recognize your vista partition, you will be able to access all of your vista files from there.

EDIT:

Wait, you can upgrade from vista to 7 darkassain? Is it only from different builds of 7 that you cannot upgrade?

 

[NormCameron]

I have just downloaded the new ISO image of the latest build of 7, 6956. the specific one I downloaded is "ULTIMATE_GB1CFRE_EN_DVD_6956.iso" I am planning on mounting it on a virtual drive with Daemon tools to install it.

My question is if I am going from Vista to 7 am I going to have to start from scratch when installing 7 or do I have the option to just upgrade and not lose all of my files and data? I know there will be this option with the final release but for these alphas can I still keep all my files?

As this is a pre-beta I would recommend you dual boot and keep your existing Vista install untouched. Remember it will probably time-bomb in January and you could lose the lot.

Norm

 

[element4life3]

Shoot....is there any way I can get 7 in my computer without having to burn the ISO to a dvd?

[Edit] Should I just wait for the public Beta to be released and scratch my idea for now? Does the public beta comeout in January?

 

[darkassain]

As far as I know, you cannot upgrade without starting fresh. I do not know how these virtual disk thingamajiggs work at all, as I've never used one.

However, what you could do is partition your hard drive if you only have one. This way you can dual boot the operating systems. You can easily partition your drive form Vista's disk manager. Once you do that, you will be able to simply install 7 onto the new partition, and once you perform a small tweak to allow 7 to recognize your vista partition, you will be able to access all of your vista files from there.

EDIT:

Wait, you can upgrade from vista to 7 darkassain? Is it only from different builds of 7 that you cannot upgrade?

yes you can upgrade from vista 6801 would the unversal for all....
i was able to upgrade from vista ultimate x64 to 6801 x64
it depends what os architecture you are using....
32 to 32 (meaning 6801/6956) 64 to 64 (6081, 6956)

eventually i reverted to a clean install because better speed and it is cleaner thank a upgrade...

Shoot....is there any way I can get 7 in my computer without having to burn the ISO to a dvd?

[Edit] Should I just wait for the public Beta to be released and scratch my idea for now? Does the public beta comeout in January?

no there is no way you can upgrade or even do an install without a disk...
well no im lying but its the easiest way...
other ways would be to use vm (virtual machine) and then only then can you install without burning a disc....

for a regular user i would just wait... (there isnt any support from ISV's or Third party software manufactures (only forums such as this))
but if you want the latest and greatest (AND HAVE A MACHINE TO SPARE) then go ahead and look for one...

 

[Mark]

The best way to do it is with a DVD on fresh install on a separate partition, but you can use the upgrade option if you are using 32bit Vista and you want to upgrade to the 32bit Windows 7 and when the public Beta comes out you should then be able to upgrade to that.

All upgrades need to be done from inside the OS and not from a Restart, load Vista and insert the disc and run the setup, choose the upgrade option and it will check to see what is compatible and then it will stop and give you a list of programs that will not be supported and under that it will tell you to do a restart and start the install again.

Once you Restart and start again it should then complete the Upgrade and depending on how much you have loaded onto the system that will directly affect how long the upgrade will take. I upgraded the 6801 build to the 6936 build both 64bit and it took about 1 hour.

 

[darkassain]

The best way to do it is with a DVD on fresh install on a separate partition, but you can use the upgrade option if you are using 32bit Vista and you want to upgrade to the 32bit Windows 7 and when the public Beta comes out you should then be able to upgrade to that.

All upgrades need to be done from inside the OS and not from a Restart, load Vista and insert the disc and run the setup, choose the upgrade option and it will check to see what is compatible and then it will stop and give you a list of programs that will not be supported and under that it will tell you to do a restart and start the install again.

Once you Restart and start again it should then complete the Upgrade and depending on how much you have loaded onto the system that will directly affect how long the upgrade will take. I upgraded the 6801 build to the 6936 build both 64bit and it took about 1 hour.

yes thanks for mentioning that grim...
they need to so it can log all the config files needed to install....
and the reboot is the actuall install....
oh and remember to disable your anti-virus as this can interfere

actually this has occured to me ...
you can actually boot from a partition ala startup repair (remember everyone when you get a freshly partioned install you get a propmt that it will create 2 partitions???
well its more complicated (and frustrating for just an install)
if you 7 just burn it and upgrade....

 

[wysiwyg]

I find partitioning and clean install the best.

A 500gb for my main Vista systems.

A 320gb for my Win 7 systems.

 

[darkassain]

I find partitioning and clean install the best.

A 500gb for my main Vista systems.

A 320gb for my Win 7 systems.

so what would you call that boot
certainly not quad booting???....lol
yes we all agree that a clean boot is the preffered way???

 

[element4life3]

So if I were to just do an upgrade from Vista to 7 would I have a ton of incompatible programs? The only programs I really use often are Firefox, Office2007, Live Messenger 2009 (Beta) and Utorrent. Am I going to have any issues with any of these?

And are you guys saying that if I upgrade to the 6956 build it will possibly give me the option to upgrade to the public beta when it releases?

 

[z3r010]

no there is no way you can upgrade or even do an install without a disk...

Not true.

I mounted my win7 iso with daemon tools from within Vista and installed it from there

 

[darkassain]

Not true.

I mounted my win7 iso with daemon tools from within Vista and installed it from there

hmmm...
i always got an error after the reboot that some files were missing....
tried a clean install and all was well
i tried even spinrite if it was the drive... ???
well if you say so...
i guess you can

So if I were to just do an upgrade from Vista to 7 would I have a ton of incompatible programs? The only programs I really use often are Firefox, Office2007, Live Messenger 2009 (Beta) and Utorrent. Am I going to have any issues with any of these?

And are you guys saying that if I upgrade to the 6956 build it will possibly give me the option to upgrade to the public beta when it releases?

yes if you choose the right architecture and from my understanding 6956 is 32 so when the beta comes just choose the 32 version to download....

as for the apps....
all of them are compatible....
you shouldnt have any trouble with them
you should really check here...
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/867-list-supported-apps-windows-7-6801-6956-a.html
that reminds me i should add utorrent....lol

 

[dan7777]

Hi, there folks keep getting BSOD this is the msg i get... STOP 0X0000007F(0X000000008050031,0X00000000000006F8,0XFFFFF800028A3953) anyone help on his matter. thanks for help in advance.

 

[darkassain]

Hi, there folks keep getting BSOD this is the msg i get... STOP 0X0000007F(0X000000008050031,0X00000000000006F8,0XFFFFF800028A3953) anyone help on his matter. thanks for help in advance.

please create a new thread dan7777...

 

[dan7777]

please create a new thread dan7777...

i did mate but no one answered heres is the thread for it...http://www.sevenforums.com/general-discussion/949-bsod-windows-7-6801-x64.html#post742.

 

[element4life3]

yes if you choose the right architecture and from my understanding 6956 is 32 so when the beta comes just choose the 32 version to download....

as for the apps....
all of them are compatible....
you shouldnt have any trouble with them
you should really check here...
http://www.sevenforums.com/software/867-list-supported-apps-windows-7-6801-6956-a.html
that reminds me i should add utorrent....lol

Thanks a bunch!! I decided to go the DVD route and am going to try the upgrade, and as long as all of those programs work i should be good!

 

[darkassain]

Thanks a bunch!! I decided to go the DVD route and am going to try the upgrade, and as long as all of those programs work i should be good!

glad you got your question anwser...
just remember...
32 with 32
64 with 64

 

[element4life3]

glad you got your question anwser...
just remember...
32 with 32
64 with 64

Yes I always remember that. 64 bit wouldnt even work with my comp anyways. I'm about to start the upgrade so wish me luck!

 

[darkassain]

As this is a pre-beta I would recommend you dual boot and keep your existing Vista install untouched. Remember it will probably time-bomb in January and you could lose the lot.

Norm

actually norm nothing has happend apart from the nagging...
you can still create and save documents...
and you can install programs
although full screen programs are impossible due to the nagging
i believe you cannot use aero and the goodies that you get...lol