Windows 7 BSOD issues

[Len19]

So far 2 passes with QPi voltage at 1.22v, Dram 1.58v, no errors yet, couple more passes and i'll try downloading seatools to check for hdd issues.
As long as this isn't a mobo issue, or even worse a psu issue...

Ok no luck pass 2 and a error, setting Qpi at 1.24

Even worse at OPi 1.24, 3 errors at pass 2 compared to the usual 1
Quick BSOD at 1.26

Giving up with the voltage tweaking, it's either causing more errors, or does nothing

Going to reinstall windows, good thing i have most of my files backed up

 

[Len19]

wow, getting bsod's even in safe mode

 

[Dave76]

You have good components, that motherboard doesn't have many issues in forums and Seasonic is a good PSU, but failures do happen even to the best.

If you are doing another memtest, set the command rate to 2T. The first four RAM timings should be 8-8-8-22, the rest on auto.
Your mobo will default to (1066) 533 RAM frequency.

Not good news on the memtest results.
With the tests you have ran and the cold booting errors, I would suggest you RMA all three RAM cards.
Get Corsair to confirm the RAM is compatible with your mobo.

If you can test with any other suitable RAM it would confirm the cause.
There is a high probability that it is the RAM failing but, the other possibilities are the HDD as mentioned, motherboard, PSU and due to the memory controller being on the CPU it is suspect as well.

This is how I would rank the possibilities.

Let us know how it's going.

 

[Len19]

On a note, nearly all bsod's lately have been either NTFS file , or Memory_Management, not sure if it's related or means both HDD and Mem is bad. Also for some reason seatools does not work on any of my drives, neither the raid 0 setup, or even my backup drive.

Going to try rma-ing my ram, but seems the corsair site is down?, but their forums are fine.

One last test though, Qpi to 1.3v, and command rate to t2, another read suggested since i have sli video cards northbridge voltage should be higher

 

[Dave76]

Try Disk Check.

Run Disk Check in Windows 7

 

[Len19]

So far 30 minutes in no bsod, had explorer crash once, only issue now is my formerly working wlan usb cannot connect to any network, it's able to detect them but for some odd reason cannot connect.

I've run chkdsk before, does not seem to find errors, command prompt closes the instant it finishes

Still no bsod, not even after a few restarts, and only 2 explorer crashes, i'm really hoping this is *fixed* for this comp.

 

[Dave76]

Did you change the RAM timings from post #43?

It's a small change but maybe it will help, the command rate change to 2T might make a difference.

 

[Len19]

Did you change the RAM timings from post #43?

It's a small change but maybe it will help, the command rate change to 2T might make a difference.

Yeah i did, i changed the command rate and the Qpi Voltage to 1.3v.
For now i have not had a single BSOD since changing those, and also a minimal amount of windows errors, i hope this will be how it'll stay, but it's hard to say, Sometimes this pc works with no problems, othertimes i can barely get it to start.

 

[Dave76]

Have ran Prime95?

CPU - Stress Test with Prime95

As with any stress testing, there are some risks involved, watch the CPU core temps and you will be fine.
If you don't feel comfortable stressing your system, then don't.

First open Speed Fan or Real Temp and monitor your CPU core temps.
Your CPU max core temp is 72.9 deg C, go to the link below and look for Tcase that temp is for the CPU case, you add 5 deg C for max CPU core temps.
Intel® Core™ i7-950 Processor


Open prime95, if it's running the test, click the 'Test' tab then 'Stop'.

Click the 'Advanced' tab, select 'Round off checking'

In the 'Options' tab select 'torture Test...' then select 'Blend'

This will test CPU and RAM.

There are lots of views on how long this test should be ran.
Hardcore OC'ers say 12-24 hours.
I have seen some OC'ers say 2 hours is enough.
For stress testing, I would say 1-2 hours will tell you if it is going to BSoD.

Let us know the results.

 

[Len19]

Gaah, after a good 12 hours of stability it crashed, ntfs.sys, unusual it crashed while gaming this time though, and another crash on reboot, as usual.

Running chkdsk /r now, has been on step 4 file 257 for about 15 mins so far.

On a note although i did get a bsod it feels like the nb voltage increase reduced the bsod frequency, reading around on what other people did with their dominator gt sets i think raising the dram/nb voltage a bit more would not be a bad idea, to certain limits of course. Going to test the qti at 1.3(current settings) with dram at 1.58

after chkdsk, regretting using it at this time, really don't want to leave pc on overnight but 470 million free clusters... 5 hours in and about 11% complete.

oh boy....13% in about 7 hours, this will be fun.

Chkdsk done, on a note with mem voltage at 1.65, qtt 1.35, if i see one more memory management bsod i am considering rma-ing this ram, and getting hyperx to replace it.

 

[Len19]

it seems like a qpi voltage boost always fixes the problem, but the next day the issues return and i'll be forced to raise the qpi again and again. At the moment it's pretty stable at 1.4v, and i really don't want to have to raise it any higher.

Good thing the mobo has a led if the northbridge starts to get too hot.

 

[Dave76]

Doesn't sound good.

I think you better RMA your RAM.

From Post #43

If you can test with any other suitable RAM it would confirm the cause.
There is a high probability that it is the RAM failing but, the other possibilities are the HDD as mentioned, motherboard, PSU and due to the memory controller being on the CPU it is suspect as well.

This is how I would rank the possibilities.

Your RAM memory controller is integrated on the CPU, there is a possibility that the memory controller could be the cause but, doesn't happen that often.

I wouldn't raise the QPI/Vtt any higher, this can cause damage to the CPU.

Let us know what you decide to do.

 

[Len19]

I'm...going to get a new set of ram the next memory related bsod i get, and then rma this set.
Probably Kingston HyperX 6gb DDR3 1600mhz. There are some pretty decent prices for it.

Would the Ram issues also cause various windows programs and services to randomly fail , I've also been having a issue with sometimes windows services *I have had the audio, internet services randomly just fail and i had to re-enable them*, video card drivers suddenly stop, and windows explorer, and especially windows desktop manager randomly crash and restart.

Might have mentioned it before but does having SLI change NB voltage requirements?

 

[Dave76]

Good choice on the RAM, make sure it is compatible with your motherboard, check the mobo website for the compatible RAM list.

RAM errors can cause the issues you mentioned.

Haven't seen any issues with SLI voltages, you might check the Graphics Card forum for similar cases.

Let us know your progress.

 

[Len19]

Well what do you know, it went from stable in one night to bsod while playing a game+an additional 3-4 bsod's while windows was loading. Yep, going to see if i can get a new ram set soon.
And another bsod the instant i managed to get to the desktop.
hyperx seems to be on the compatibility list of gigabyte x-58a ud3r

Well that's unusual, the bsod while gaming was actually caused by a cdrom.sys, not the usual ntfs.sys or ntskrnl*
I also thought corsair ram was among the better ram companies, if ram turns out to be the problem *hopefully* i must be among the unlucky few to get a bad set.
hopefully because it would be a even bigger problem if it's a mobo/cpu/psu issue.

After reading another thread, someone getting ntoskrnl.exe bsod, and dxgmm1, both of which i've seen before, it ended with the person replacing ram and solving all issues. However i'm also getting ntfs which i'm not sure if it's 100% related to ram problems. I've run chkdsk /r overnight a few days ago.

 

[CarlTR6]

Bugcheck 24, NTFS, can definitely be caused by RAM.

 

[Len19]

Ok, more bsods, i am hoping the new ram replacement will fix the bsods. Will be a long 4-7 business days. Pretty much tried everything outside hardware change.

It's almost amusing this pc crashes just as fast in safe mode as it does normally.
Some days it's just worse than other, today is one of those days where i can't even use it.

 

[Dave76]

Corsair RAM is a good brand, I haven't had any problems with mine.

All RAM brands will have some issues, some more than others.

Are you in a position to RMA the Corsair RAM?
They are usually good at replacing it quickly.

 

[Len19]

Corsair RAM is a good brand, I haven't had any problems with mine.

All RAM brands will have some issues, some more than others.

Are you in a position to RMA the Corsair RAM?
They are usually good at replacing it quickly.

They pretty much approved it about 1 hour after i asked for the rma.
I guess all companies can have duds sometimes, mine just happens to require perfect voltage and timing to run at all.

On a note for the kicks this is what i'm going to test a bit, although i have a feeling even if it works now it'll spontaneously fail later
Ram is at 1600mhz, surprisingly it hasn't crashed while loading windows, although according to blue screen view i got a memory management crash the instant i saved the bios settings. 10 minutes in no crash, it would be hilarious if somehow this completely fixes the error, but i wouldn't count on it. Of course if it does...i can cancel the replacement HyperX i just ordered, and the rma

Advanced CPU Features:
CPU Clock Ratio ............................. [23x]
CPU Frequency ................................ 3.06GHz (133x23)
Intel(R) Turbo Boost Tech ................... [Enabled]
CPU Cores Enabled ........................... [All]
CPU Multi Threading ......................... [Enabled]
CPU Enhanced Halt (C1E) ..................... [Disabled]
C3/C6/C7 State Support ...................... [Enabled]
CPU Thermal Monitor ......................... [Enabled]
CPU EIST Function ........................... [Enabled]
Virtualization Technology ................... [Disabled]
Bi-Directional PROCHOT ...................... [Auto]

Uncore & QPI Features:
QPI Clock Ratio .............................. [x36]
QPI Link Speed .............................. 4.8GHz
Uncore Clock Ratio ........................... [x25]
Uncore Frequency ...................... 3200 MHz

Standard Clock Control:
Base Clock (BCLK) Control ................ [Enabled]
BCLK Frequency (MHz) ..................... [133]
PCI Express Frequency (MHz) .............. [100]


Advanced Clock Control:
CPU Clock Drive ............................ [800mV]
PCI Express Clock Drive .................... [900mV]
CPU Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]
IOH Clock Skew ............................. [0ps]

Advanced DRAM Features:
Extreme Memory Profile (XMP) ................ [Disabled]
Performance Enhance .................... [Extreme]
System Memory Multiplier (SPD) ........ [12.0]
Memory Frequency (Mhz) ................ 1600
DRAM Timing Selectable (SPD) .......... [Expert]
Profile DDR Voltage ................... 1.5V
Profile QPI Voltage ................... 1.75V
Channel Interleaving .................. [Auto]
Rank Interleaving ..................... [Auto]

Channel A + B + C

Channel A Timing Settings:
##Channel A Standard Timing Control##
CAS Latency Time ........................... [8]
tRCD ....................................... [9]
tRP ........................................ [8]
tRAS ....................................... [20]



##Channel A Advanced Timing Control##
tRC ........................................ [Auto]
tRRD ....................................... [Auto]
tWTR ....................................... [Auto]
tWR ........................................ [Auto]
tWTP ....................................... [Auto]
tWL ........................................ [Auto]
tRFC ....................................... [Auto]
tRTP ....................................... [Auto]
tFAW ....................................... [Auto]
Command Rate (CMD) ......................... [1]

##Channel A Misc Timing Control##
B2B CAS Delay .............................. [Auto]
Round Trip Latency ......................... [Auto]

Advanced Voltage Control:

CPU
Load Line Calibration ...................... [2T]
CPU Vcore .......................... 1.30625V [Normal]
QPI/VTT Voltage .................... 1.175V [1.320V]
CPU PLL ............................ 1.800V [Auto]

MCH/ICH
PCIE .............................. 1.500v [auto]
QPI PLL ........................... 1.100v [auto]
IOH Core ........................... 1.100v [auto]
ICH I/O ............................ 1.500v [auto]
ICH Core ........................... 1.100v [auto]

DRAM
DRAM Voltage ....................... 1.500V [1.66 V]
DRAM Termination ................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Data VRef. .................... 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-A Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-B Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]
Ch-C Address VRef. ................. 0.750v [AUTO]

 

[Len19]

So much for that, bsod ntfs.sys