Windows 7 - I've Lost Control

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I have Windows 7 Pro, which has been working fine.
Today, I downloaded and installed an Intel update.
After that, the Intellimouse did not work properly.
In device manager, I found a usb device showing an error. With my ups this is common. I just disable and the enable the usb device and it works.
I stupidly disabled this device and wound up with no mouse and no keyboard control. And obviously no way to get back into device manager.
I tried a different mouse and keyboard - no joy.
I tried the repair disk (for the first time) and it tells me I have the wrong Windows version. The disk, from Dell, says Windows 7 Pro. I tried a repair disk I had made right after getting the computer but had the same problem.
I looked in the BIOS and USB are all enabled. I even tried removing the battery from the board to reset everything. No help.
Note that the computer boots just fine, just no way to do anything.

Right now, I am using an older Windows disk. I would really like to fix the one that is the problem just to avoid the hassle of installing programs and transferring tons of files. I do not have a retail disk for Windows 7 Pro so cannot do a fresh install.

Anyone ever run into this and find a fix for it? I can see the disk when plugged into a USB port. I'm sure there is just some file that need to be replaced or edited, but I have no clue as to which one or even where to look.

Any help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,
Howard
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i7-6700
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual 24-inch
Hard Drives
EVO 850 SSD
Seagate 1 TB (x2)
Case
On the floor
Internet Speed
Miserable
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Browser
Firefox
Did you make the repair disk on the same computer? Sometimes you get that message if your repair disk was made on a 32-bit version of Windows and you're trying to use it on a 64-bit version, or vice versa.

If you can get the repair to boot, and if you have System Restore turned on, I would try that first.

If you have access to another computer try to make a new repair disk.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
iNTEL Core i7 2630QM 2GHz
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M
Hard Drives
INTEL SSDSC2CW240A3
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Google Chrome
System Restore was going to be my first attempt.
One repair disk came from the manufacturer, Dell. The other was made on the same computer. Don't know why they won't work.
I can't create a repair disk on the other computer; it's running XP.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i7-6700
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual 24-inch
Hard Drives
EVO 850 SSD
Seagate 1 TB (x2)
Case
On the floor
Internet Speed
Miserable
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Browser
Firefox
Tried making another repair disc and got an error "system repair disc could not be created." Thanks, Microsoft.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i7-6700
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual 24-inch
Hard Drives
EVO 850 SSD
Seagate 1 TB (x2)
Case
On the floor
Internet Speed
Miserable
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Browser
Firefox
If your discs (DVD) are PRE-SP1 and you have updated to SP1 that could cause this problem.
You would need to use a Win7 disc with SP1.
You can download the Win7 ISO with SP1 using the Heidoc downloader and create a new Win7 disc with SP1.
Microsoft Windows and Office ISO Download Tool

Try a repair using a new DVD with SP1.
You can also use this DVD for a clean install.
You need a readable COA sticker (license) to activate Windows with this DVD.

If you can look in BIOS it sounds like the keyboard works before Windows starts.
If that's true, what you can try:

  • Turn on the PC
  • Repeatedly tap the F8 key to see if that brings up a boot selection screen
  • If that works, try booting in Safe Mode, to see if that works
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.

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My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
Thanks for the info.

The computer came with Win7 Pro SP1 installed. The repair disk from Dell is the same (I just looked at it to be sure). I had created a repair disk with this computer, and that disk will not work either; gives the wrong version error on both repair disks. Now the computer will not create a repair disk, just gives me an error.
I have no COA sticker, just an OEM number.
I can boot into safe mode, but have the same problem: no mouse or keyboard.
When I boot with the repair disk, the mouse and keyboard both work fine.
Very frustrating. There has to be a simple change that can be made to one of the system files to correct this.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i7-6700
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual 24-inch
Hard Drives
EVO 850 SSD
Seagate 1 TB (x2)
Case
On the floor
Internet Speed
Miserable
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Browser
Firefox
I have no COA sticker, just an OEM number.

I'm not sure what that means.
If it's a laptop, the COA sticker could be in the battery compartment.

Is this a refurbished PC ?

All legitimate new PC's should have a legitimate COA sticker, if they had Win 7 preinstalled.

You might need to ask Dell support about this.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
It is neither a laptop nor a refurbished computer; it is a desktop that was purchased new from Dell this past January. There is a spot on the top of the case where a sticker would go, but Dell and most other makers no longer provide one.

I really don't want to reinstall the system on that drive. I just want to see if I can find a quick fix for the problem.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i7-6700
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual 24-inch
Hard Drives
EVO 850 SSD
Seagate 1 TB (x2)
Case
On the floor
Internet Speed
Miserable
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Browser
Firefox
If it's a new Dell PC Dell less than 1 year old i would expect they would stand behind the product/warranty and fix it.
I don't have any other ideas :(
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
home built
OS
Multi-Boot W7_Pro_x64 W8.1_Pro_x64 W10_Pro_x64 +Linux_VMs +Chromium_VM
CPU
AMD Athlon II x4 620
Motherboard
Gigabyte GA-MA785G-UD3H
Memory
6GB GSkill DDR2 800
Graphics Card(s)
AMD 4670 GPU + AMD 4200 IGP
Sound Card
on board Realtek ALC889A
Monitor(s) Displays
RCA 40" LCD TV, Insignia 32" LCD TV, HP 15" LCD monitor
Screen Resolution
1680 x 1050
Hard Drives
OCZ Vertex 3 120GB,
Samsung F3 1TB (3),
Several others - WD, Seagate, Hitachi, ...
PSU
Corsair 500 W
Case
Rosewill mid tower
Cooling
CM 90mm rifle
Keyboard
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, Dell USB wired
Mouse
Gyration wireless, Logitech wireless, V7 USB wired
Internet Speed
Spectrum - 100Mbps D / 10Mbps U
Antivirus
Avast, MBAM3, EMET, WinPatrol
Browser
Pale Moon, Firefox, IE
Other Info
2 multi-boot PC's
Mainly HTPC/Office/Gen purpose (no gaming).
Trendnet USB KVM.
LG DVD burner/Blue Ray Player.
Tray system for removable SATA backup drives.

Not currently OCd, under-volted.
I use Hybrid sleep, rarely re-boot or shutdown.

Hauppauge HD-PVR, Avermedia PCIe TV Tuner, Hauppauge PCI TV Tuner.
What was the Intel update that you installed?.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built using existing case
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
CPU
Intel i5 3570 3.4Ghz Ivy Bridge SKT 1155 quad core
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z77-HD3 SKT 1155 2xSata 3, 4x USB 3.0
Memory
G-Skill Rip Jaws 16Gb (8x2) DDR3 -1600 PC3 12800 CL 10 red
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte NVIDIA GT610 1Gb DDR3 810/1200 PCI-E 2.0 Silent
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition & Realtech High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Philips 226V4L 16:9 aspect ratio
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 HD
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256gb SSD, SATA 3.
Hitachi Touro Portable 1tb, USB 3.0 HDD used for image b/ups.
PSU
Corsair VS450
Case
Codeng
Cooling
PSU fan & CPU fan
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech Wireless trackball M570
Internet Speed
Wireless 3G. 3mg down & 550kb up.
Antivirus
Bitdefender Internet Security 2020
Browser
Opera (Current Version) & Firefox
Other Info
MS Office 2013 Pro. Davis weather station software. MGE Nova 600 avr UPS.
I don't recall. It was one that showed up yesterday.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i7-6700
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual 24-inch
Hard Drives
EVO 850 SSD
Seagate 1 TB (x2)
Case
On the floor
Internet Speed
Miserable
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Browser
Firefox
I found the old hard drive that came in the computer when it was new. I booted with that and was able to create a recovery disk.
I still got the "wrong version" message when I booted that recovery disk and tried to repair the new drive. Remember, the new drive started as a clone of the original. But there have been numerous updates since then.
Is there any chance that the fact that the new drive is an SSD could be causing the problem? That makes no sense, but we are dealing with Microsoft here.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i7-6700
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual 24-inch
Hard Drives
EVO 850 SSD
Seagate 1 TB (x2)
Case
On the floor
Internet Speed
Miserable
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Browser
Firefox

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
iNTEL Core i7 2630QM 2GHz
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M
Hard Drives
INTEL SSDSC2CW240A3
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Google Chrome
Because it`s on a SSD doesn`t matter.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
Sound Card
Realtek High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
Internet Speed
Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
Antivirus
Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
Browser
Chrome
Other Info
Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
Thanks, TrustMe, but without having any keyboard or mouse control, I can't do a restore. And Kyhi's Windows 10 rescue disk isn't of any use with Windows 7. In fact, I already have a Windows 10 rescue/reinstall disk from Dell.

What I would like to find out is which system file I need to edit or replace on the bad disk to regain the device control. Should be a piece of cake if I just knew where to look.

I have other Win 7 disks, like the one I'm using now. The hassle is that I spent a lot of time getting everything sorted on Windows 7 to allow old programs and drivers to work. I didn't write anything down, or course, and I dread having to go through that again.


AddRAM, I didn't think the SSD would be a problem, but with Microsoft you never know what will happen when you change anything.

I really do appreciate the efforts you guys are making on my behalf.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i7-6700
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual 24-inch
Hard Drives
EVO 850 SSD
Seagate 1 TB (x2)
Case
On the floor
Internet Speed
Miserable
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Browser
Firefox

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Self built using existing case
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64 bit sp1
CPU
Intel i5 3570 3.4Ghz Ivy Bridge SKT 1155 quad core
Motherboard
Gigabyte Z77-HD3 SKT 1155 2xSata 3, 4x USB 3.0
Memory
G-Skill Rip Jaws 16Gb (8x2) DDR3 -1600 PC3 12800 CL 10 red
Graphics Card(s)
Gigabyte NVIDIA GT610 1Gb DDR3 810/1200 PCI-E 2.0 Silent
Sound Card
NVIDIA High Definition & Realtech High Definition Audio
Monitor(s) Displays
2 x Philips 226V4L 16:9 aspect ratio
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 HD
Hard Drives
Samsung 840 Pro 256gb SSD, SATA 3.
Hitachi Touro Portable 1tb, USB 3.0 HDD used for image b/ups.
PSU
Corsair VS450
Case
Codeng
Cooling
PSU fan & CPU fan
Keyboard
Logitech
Mouse
Logitech Wireless trackball M570
Internet Speed
Wireless 3G. 3mg down & 550kb up.
Antivirus
Bitdefender Internet Security 2020
Browser
Opera (Current Version) & Firefox
Other Info
MS Office 2013 Pro. Davis weather station software. MGE Nova 600 avr UPS.
Note that the computer boots just fine, just no way to do anything.

This might be a total waste of your time, and if it is I sincerely apologize. But when the computer boots have you checked to see if you can use the arrow keys on the numeric keypad to navigate around the screen? Here are a couple of articles that outline how you might be able to do this:

How to move the mouse cursor with the keyboard in Windows.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/14204


Again, I apologize if this is just a waste of time. I mean no disrespect to you or others trying to help.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Sony Vaio VPCEB47GM Laptop
OS
Win 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i5 2.4 Ghz
Memory
8GB DDR3
Graphics Card(s)
Intel HD 3000
Sound Card
IDT High Definition
Monitor(s) Displays
15.6 WGXA Anti-Glare LED
Screen Resolution
1280x800
Hard Drives
640Gb 7200rpm
Antivirus
MSE
Browser
Opera (primary) with IE9 backup
Ranger4. Those are interesting articles. Sad to see Intel putting out such a terrible install.

Marsmiar: Thanks for your input. I learned something new; didn't know you could move the mouse pointer with arrow keys.

Unfortunately, I cannot benefit from either of your suggestions as there is no mouse or keyboard input accepted, even in Safe Boot.
 

My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell
OS
Windows 7 Pro 64-bit
CPU
Intel i7-6700
Memory
16 GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia
Monitor(s) Displays
Dual 24-inch
Hard Drives
EVO 850 SSD
Seagate 1 TB (x2)
Case
On the floor
Internet Speed
Miserable
Antivirus
Bitdefender
Browser
Firefox
One last piece of information. If your mouse and keyboard are plugged into USB 3 ports, move them to USB 2 ports. Windows 7 installation material does not support USB 3. Then try the rescue disk again.
 

My Computer

Computer type
Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Alienware
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
iNTEL Core i7 2630QM 2GHz
Memory
8GB
Graphics Card(s)
NVIDIA GeForce GT 555M
Hard Drives
INTEL SSDSC2CW240A3
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
Google Chrome
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