Windows 7 Partitioning Limitations

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I was just trying to reduce the size of my C Drive and was not able to reduce it lower than 251558 MB out of 476838 MB? I was quite sure I had done this a few times before so what gives? I'm using the inbuilt Disk Management which I've also used before, but maybe not in this same way.

I was trying to bring it down to about 150GB and use the other space for a Linux Install. Again, computers make me feel so stupid.

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The answer lies in the message: the volume cannot be shrunk further where there are unmovable files present.
 

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The answer lies in the message: the volume cannot be shrunk further where there are unmovable files present.
That would be true if there were less available free space. There is clearly 423.73 Free Space out of 465.66, so I should be able to do this no problem.
 

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Hewlett-Packard 180B (Socket FS1)
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6.00GB DDR3 @ 674MHz (9-9-9-24)
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I will use a third party tool if needed.
 

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That would be true if there were less available free space. There is clearly 423.73 Free Space out of 465.66, so I should be able to do this no problem.
Windows does not know how to move unmovable files when you have free space, which is why I posted the links above
 

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Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 @ 3200MHz
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integrated Intel HD 630
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onboard Realtek ALC1220
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I understand johnhoh. I decided to do a Disk Cleanup and a Defrag to see if that would help. I wish I would have done a Drive Format before I did a Reinstall. I used a Drive that had Linux on it and don't know if that would matter or not. Maybe some of you can tell by looking at the Defrag Report.

Under File Name at the bottom Left, can any of you tell me if this is a Linux File, though it does say "System Volume Information" to the Right, I wouldn't know if that matters.

I guess I can just move forward with the Third Party tools to Re-Partition, do you guys think this will break anything, and is this somewhat Normal, have you guys seen this before?

I also wonder if I can, or should, make these pics smaller, or don't it matter?
 

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That is what I'm going to do, I just want to know if I did something wrong that causes this? I normally don't wipe a drive until Install, then Delete all partitions and make sure the drive is ALL UNALLOCATED before moving forward.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
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AMD A8-3520M
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Hewlett-Packard 180B (Socket FS1)
Memory
6.00GB DDR3 @ 674MHz (9-9-9-24)
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512MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 6620G
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IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
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Generic PnP Monitor
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Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
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Laptop
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HP Pavilion dv7-6c23cl
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD A8-3520M
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 180B (Socket FS1)
Memory
6.00GB DDR3 @ 674MHz (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
512MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 6620G
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
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Generic PnP Monitor
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Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
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Logitec M525
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You know what to do. The instructions were posted earlier. 3rd party partition programs, such as Aomei Partition Assistant will move the files. It has be done from outside of windows, e.g. boot media.

An alternative is to make an image using a 3rd party program, e.g. Aomei backupper ( free version will do the job), or macrium, or O&O or Diskgenius, and several others. Then use boot media to delete the existing windows partition, which then becomes unallocated space. Create a smaller partition from that space. Restore the image to the smaller partition.

Partitioning and Imaging programs will make their own boot media.
 

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On reflection, you are probably best advised to use the imaging method.

That means if something goes horribly wrong several months down the line, e.g. hard drive failure - you have that image to go back to. Most likely, once you have got the hang of it, you will have made images since - which is even better.

Windows has a built in imaging function, which is pretty clever, but not very flexible. Not really suitable for what you want to do.
 

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#6 I already said that I would do this. What I want to know now is why did this happen? Everything else I got handled. I don't like the fact that there is now 5.88GB in the middle of that drive. I know this happens but had never seen it on one of my own drives till now.
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
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Hewlett-Packard 180B (Socket FS1)
Memory
6.00GB DDR3 @ 674MHz (9-9-9-24)
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512MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 6620G
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
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Generic PnP Monitor
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(1600x900@60Hz)
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Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
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Logitec M525
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Shadow copies, possibly. You can delete them. See if that helps.

vssadmin delete shadows /for=c: /all
 

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    2x8gb 3200mhz
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    Coolermaster
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    cryorig m9i
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    7x64
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    8gb ddr4 2400
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    xfx pro 450w
Done, I can't be bothered with making things perfect this time around, the partitioning is done.

Luckily this is not my Main pc and will be torching it at some point if it gets messed up. That being said, I just installed Windows 7 and didn't want to reinstall again right now. I'll beat it up for a while and see what happens. I will be using it for Linux also and copying customer files, which are sometimes questionable. It will be Imaged also, but you know how it goes, I may get lazy and forget to image.:p
 

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OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD A8-3520M
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 180B (Socket FS1)
Memory
6.00GB DDR3 @ 674MHz (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
512MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 6620G
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor
Screen Resolution
(1600x900@60Hz)
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Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
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Logitec M525
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Avast Free, Unfortunately
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Done, I can't be bothered with making things perfect this time around, the partitioning is done.

What did you use to do it?
 

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    7 X64
    CPU
    i5 8400
    Motherboard
    gigabyte b365m ds3h
    Memory
    2x8gb 3200mhz
    Hard Drives
    various
    PSU
    pure power 11 400w cm
    Case
    Coolermaster
    Cooling
    cryorig m9i
  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    OS
    7x64
    CPU
    g5400
    Motherboard
    ga b365m ds3h
    Memory
    8gb ddr4 2400
    PSU
    xfx pro 450w
MiniTool

Before using MiniTool I deleted Shadow Copy Files via "Disk Cleanup" then after using minitool I don't see the Unmovable Files anymore from Disk Defrag.
 
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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion dv7-6c23cl
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium 64bit
CPU
AMD A8-3520M
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 180B (Socket FS1)
Memory
6.00GB DDR3 @ 674MHz (9-9-9-24)
Graphics Card(s)
512MB ATI AMD Radeon HD 6620G
Sound Card
IDT High Definition Audio CODEC
Monitor(s) Displays
Generic PnP Monitor
Screen Resolution
(1600x900@60Hz)
Hard Drives
Samsung 850 EVO 250GB SSD
Mouse
Logitec M525
Internet Speed
30-75Mbps
Antivirus
Avast Free, Unfortunately
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Google Chrome, Firefox, IE
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