Windows 7 Upgrade AHHHH

jhm302

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Guys, & Gals.

I am trying to get a definitive answer and cannot, can you help me please?

Situation,

I am building a new PC, therefore no OS is installed on my new Harddisk

I own a legitimate copy XP that I purchased last year, which HAS NOT been installed or registered on any other PC.

SO in order to save costs I purchased the WIn 7 64 Bit upgrade Version.

Question: In order to install the WIn 7 64 Bit upgrade Version MUST I have previously installed and registered my Win XP, I obviously do not want to do this as it is a lot of time and effort.

Thanks

j
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 64 Bit
Guys, & Gals.

I am trying to get a definitive answer and cannot, can you help me please?

Situation,

I am building a new PC, therefore no OS is installed on my new Harddisk

I own a legitimate copy XP that I purchased last year, which HAS NOT been installed or registered on any other PC.

SO in order to save costs I purchased the WIn 7 64 Bit upgrade Version.

Question: In order to install the WIn 7 64 Bit upgrade Version MUST I have previously installed and registered my Win XP, I obviously do not want to do this as it is a lot of time and effort.

Thanks

j

Is the Windows XP you mention also x64? If yes, then you should have no problems first installing XP then upgrading to Windows 7 x64.

You CANNOT upgrade from a 32-bit OS to a 64-bit OS. You might want to have a look at the tutorial Clean Install Windows 7 with an Upgrade Windows 7 Version.
 

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Don't bother to install XP first there is absolutely nothing to be gained by that. Just do a clean install of Win 7 following the tutorial that Dzomlija posted the link to.
 

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Built my first computer (8Mhz 8088cpu, 640K RAM, 20MB HDD, 2 360K floppy drives) in 1985 and have been building them for myself, relatives and friends ever since.
BUT _ What I do not understand is that if it is an "upgrade" and windows xp is not installed how can it be classed as an upgrade? As it is as you mentioned a "clean install"
 

My Computer

OS
Windows 7 64 Bit
What happens is this:

You install Windows 7 Upgrade using the Upgrade option instead of Custom (Advanced) but you DON'T enter the product key or try to activate the software.

On completion you re-run the installation, but this time you use the Custom (Advanced) method. Windows will treat the first install as a qualifying installation of the operating system and voila! you have a full version of Windows 7.

Ethical? Perhaps not. Loophole? Yes, and one that Microsoft know all about, but have made no effort to close.

Just go ahead with the method suggested in Dzomlija's link.
 

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Fantastic - that really clears it up. Thank you
 

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OS
Windows 7 64 Bit
BUT _ What I do not understand is that if it is an "upgrade" and windows xp is not installed how can it be classed as an upgrade? As it is as you mentioned a "clean install"

jhm,
I refer you to these links.

I also will never recommend an unethical procedure.

I'm "by the book" and "straight-arrow".

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd446674(WS.10,printer).aspx

Download Details - Microsoft Download Center - Windows 7 Upgrade Paths

Upgrading from Windows XP to Windows 7 - Help & How-to - Microsoft Windows
 

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Also have an Asus ha1002xp netbook with Win 7 Ultimate installed.

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Intel Core i7 870 @ 2.93GHz
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MSI 2A9C (CPU1)
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8Gb Dual-Channel DDR3 @ 664MHz
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nVidia GeForce GTX 460 1024MB dedicated RAM
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Realtek HD Audio
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HP2310i
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1x1954GB Hitachi HDS22020ALA 330 (RAID), 1x1954GB Hitachi External for backup and storage
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460W
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HP Elite
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Logitech K750 solar-powered keyboard
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Logitech Wireless M180 mouse
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Will be a couple of weeks before I get started (due to work) - but rest assured you will be informed
 

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OS
Windows 7 64 Bit
It's not a question of ethics. The loophole is there because it needs to be and MS knows it. MS allows upgrading from XP to Win 7 while using a new drive with no OS installed. In the past, the installer would allow you to insert the CD for the prior OS to validate the upgrade. For whatever reason MS doesn't allow that anymore so this loophole has to exist. As long as you own a valid XP license, you are entitled to upgrade whether it is installed or not.
 

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ASUS TUF Z370-Pro Gaming in desktop
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AMD Radeon RX580, RTX 3060, Intel Iris Plus
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High Definition Audio (Built-in to mobo)
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Samsung U32J59 32" (2x), 15.6", 12"
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3840x2160, 3840x2160, 1920x1080, 2160x1440
Hard Drives
500G SSD for OS; 2T, 10T & 15T HDDs for Data on Desktop, 1TB SSD laptop, 128G SSD tablet.
PSU
Corsair CX 750M
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Antec 100
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CM 212+
Keyboard
IBM Model M - used continuously since 1986
Mouse
Microsoft Pro IntelliMouse
Internet Speed
400M down 8M up
Antivirus
Windows Defender
Browser
FireFox
Other Info
Built my first computer (8Mhz 8088cpu, 640K RAM, 20MB HDD, 2 360K floppy drives) in 1985 and have been building them for myself, relatives and friends ever since.
Is the Windows XP you mention also x64? If yes, then you should have no problems first installing XP then upgrading to Windows 7 x64.

You CANNOT upgrade from a 32-bit OS to a 64-bit OS.
You might want to have a look at the tutorial Clean Install Windows 7 with an Upgrade Windows 7 Version.

I have a problem with these statements, since they aren't true.
the only time you can't upgrade from 32bit to 64bit is when you are doing an in-place upgrade. you can't do an in-place upgrade from XP to Windows 7 so the above statements are false in this situation.
If the OP happen to have Vista 32bit and wanted to upgrade to Win 7 64bit then the last statement would have some truth to it.

I am not trying to berate Dzomlija, I am trying to curb some mis-information that someone may read and then pass it around.
 

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Guys, & Gals.

I am trying to get a definitive answer and cannot, can you help me please?

Situation,

I am building a new PC, therefore no OS is installed on my new Harddisk

I own a legitimate copy XP that I purchased last year, which HAS NOT been installed or registered on any other PC.

SO in order to save costs I purchased the WIn 7 64 Bit upgrade Version.

Question: In order to install the WIn 7 64 Bit upgrade Version MUST I have previously installed and registered my Win XP, I obviously do not want to do this as it is a lot of time and effort.

Thanks

j

This thread went FAR off the rails talking about 32/64 bit and in place upgrades. Seems like a lot of that is happening on this board lately.

No, you do not have to do anything with XP to install from your upgrade disc. Pop in your disc, boot on it and have at your installation of 7.
 

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