Windows Mail

poppa bear · Mar 16, 2010

Han Solo said:
After step 2, I ran the take ownership reg but in the windows mail folder I only see WinMail.exe.mui in the en-US folder. I don't get Windows Mail on the program list.

Running Take Ownership has nothing to do with being able to view the WinMail.exe file in the Windows Mail folder in Program files. And there is no need to open or do anything in the en-US folder.

I apologise for the mistake, but the run command in step 2 was incorrect. It has now been amended to show the correct command in Post No 317 here. And will eventually be corrected in the main tutorial at the beginning.

Once you carry out Step 2 as per the above post, WinMail.exe file will become visible in the Windows Mail folder in the normal Program files. Then just follow the rest of the post steps.

Cheers PB

Han Solo · Mar 17, 2010

I have copy and pasted the correct command in run but I still can't see WinMail.exe in the Windows Mail folder. I took ownership using the Take Ownership reg and then used Footnote 1 to take ownership. After all this I still can't see WinMail.exe.

It's ok now. Windows Mail is back for business. Apparently I wasn't seeing WinMail.exe because the attrib -s -h "C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe"
didn't work until I used an elevated cmd prompt instead. And I only did that at the end. I hope that doesn't give me any problems in the future.

Brink · Mar 17, 2010

Tutorial has been updated for this.

poppa bear · Mar 17, 2010

Han Solo said:
I have copy and pasted the correct command in run but I still can't see WinMail.exe in the Windows Mail folder. I took ownersip using the Take Ownershiip reg and then used Footnote 1 to take ownership. After all this I still can't see WinMail.exe.

The problem wasn't in the Take Ownership, as all this does is allow you to delete or copy over a file that is protected.

The problem was in Step 2 which showed an incorrect command. And as Brink pointed out in the post above, this has now been corrected.

WinMail.exe is made visible by typing, (or copying and pasting), the command shown below, exactly as is, into the Run command box.

attrib -s -h "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe"

It shows you in Step 2 how to open the Run command box.

So what you need to do is:

Go the main tutorial at the very beginning of this post

Continue the import process starting with Step 2 onwards.

Cheers PB

RJ12 · Mar 17, 2010

Thanks!! It worked!!

Just a question though, where it says Windows Live Mail Could cause problems, shouldn't it be WinLiveMail instead of WinMailLive.

Just something I noticed, Thanks for the tutorial!

primal · Mar 17, 2010

poppa bear said:
Hi Primal, re:

Thanks PB Yes I used the 64 bit msoe.dll OK I understand the files can be hidden again. I did not click on WinMAil.exe before doing all steps

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I'm assuming that after doing everything suggested, it is still not working?

OK it seems fairly certain that the problem is corrupted files. I assume you have still got copies of the original Windows 7 folders for Windows Mail 32 & 64 bit, as comes with a clean instal of Windoows 7? If this is the case, delete all Windows Mail folders totally, not just the files inside the folders, from both sets of program files. Click the attached pic to enlarge to show location.

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Now open: Start Orb --> All Programs --> Accessories --> Run

In the Run box type: sfc /scannow --> Click: OK. Let the scan complete.

This should replace any corrupted or missing original system files.

Once the scan is finished, check your program files to see if there are any Windows Mail folders. If they are present and complete, (compare them to your saved original Windows Mail folders that came installed in Windows 7), do the steps in Post 317.

If they are not present, open:

Start Orb --> Computer --> C Drive --> Program Files --> Copy the original 64bit Wndows Mail folder into normal Program Files. This folder must be named as it originally appeared, that is: Windows Mail.

Now open: Start Orb --> Computer --> C Drive --> Program Files --> Copy the original 32bit Wndows Mail folder into Program Files(x86), and make sure name is also Windows Mail.

Now open: Start Orb --> Computer --> Right click: C Drive --> In drop down menu choose: Properties --> Tools Tab --> Click: Check Now --> Start --> Schedule Disk Check --> Re-boot PC.

On re-start it will do a quick system scan. Once re-booted, now apply the steps in Post 317.

Good luck. PB

Poppa Bear

I got it. Thanks for your patience.One thing I messed was attrib -s -h "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe" For some reason I missed the attrib -s-h but as everything else worked I just made the exe visible by tools/folder options/view etc and then made it invisible again. Is that OK? I ask because I want to make the 7 the computer i get my mail on and want to copy all the previous mail from vista. Do you think my system is stable as I did not do exactly as you said.

Also, though it is not really relevant here, can you tell me where the sfc /scannow restores all the folders from. Is it from the back up Recover section of the hard drive. I was trying to extract the winmail folders from the recover section and from the DVD but could not find them. someone told me they are compressed?

Thanks again PB you are a star. So good to see window mail on my new PC

poppa bear · Mar 17, 2010

RJ12 said:
Thanks!! It worked!!

Just a question though, where it says Windows Live Mail Could cause problems, shouldn't it be WinLiveMail instead of WinMailLive.

Just something I noticed, Thanks for the tutorial!

Hey that's really great RJ12. Gives me satisfaction to know it worked for you. Yeah you're probably right about WinLiveMail. I'll check it out.

Update: Yes, you're right. It should have read WinLiveMail and has now been amended. Thanks for pointing out that correction.

Cheers PB

poppa bear · Mar 17, 2010

Han Solo said:
I have copy and pasted the correct command in run but I still can't see WinMail.exe in the Windows Mail folder. I took ownership using the Take Ownership reg and then used Footnote 1 to take ownership. After all this I still can't see WinMail.exe.

It's ok now. Windows Mail is back for business. Apparently I wasn't seeing WinMail.exe because the attrib -s -h "C:\Program Files\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe"
didn't work until I used an elevated cmd prompt instead. And I only did that at the end. I hope that doesn't give me any problems in the future.

Hey Han Solo that's great you got it working.

It wasn't really your mistake, the command syntax was wrong in Step 2 of the tutorial. Using the elevated command should not give you any problems in the future. Removing the attributes simply makes the file visible, but doesn't affect it's functionality.

Cheers PB

poppa bear · Mar 17, 2010

primal said:
Poppa Bear

I got it. Thanks for your patience.One thing I messed was attrib -s -h "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe" For some reason I missed the attrib -s-h but as everything else worked I just made the exe visible by tools/folder options/view etc and then made it invisible again. Is that OK? I ask because I want to make the 7 the computer i get my mail on and want to copy all the previous mail from vista. Do you think my system is stable as I did not do exactly as you said.

Also, though it is not really relevant here, can you tell me where the sfc /scannow restores all the folders from. Is it from the back up Recover section of the hard drive. I was trying to extract the winmail folders from the recover section and from the DVD but could not find them. someone told me they are compressed?

Thanks again PB you are a star. So good to see window mail on my new PC

Hey that's really great Primal. I admire your patience and persistence. Now enjoy the fruits of your labor! What's more it was not really your fault. There was a mistake in the original syntax of the attrib command in Step 2. This has now been corrected in both the Tutorial at the beginning of this post and in my post 317.

Re where the files are stored in Windows 7 that are restrored by running sfc /scannow, I can't answer that. If you ran that command in XP, it was necessary to put the original WinXP CD in the CD drive for the scan to work, and it obviously got the files from the CD. This changed with Vista where the files are stored on the hard drive, and ditto in Win7. I'll have a scout around and if I find out I'll send you a PM on it.

Update: Sorry Primal, I didn't answer your question re your PC being stable due to using the option tools/folder options/view etc, to make WinMail.exe invisible again. That's fine. All it means is if you ever need to create a new desk top shortcut to WinMail.exe, you'll have to make it visible again.

By running Step 2 of the tutorial, in it's corrected form, it will make WinMail.exe permanently visible without affecting any other folders or files. And it's perfectly safe to run it. The easiest way is just copy and paste the code into the Run command box, and click "OK". That way you don't ever again have to go into the option tools/folder options/view etc.

Cheers PB

primal · Mar 18, 2010

Cheers PB much appreciated

2 things

1 When I booted my PC today the windows mail was still there but the account I had created was gone and I had to recreate. Later I rebooted and the account was there but it had been off overnight in the first instance.

2 I was able to copy all my message from win mail on vista by importing. But, a folder I had created especially for read receipts will not copy. I can copy it and I can create a READ folder in win 7 but copy to folder is greyed out. It is a small thing but would like to get it right if possible. Have noted your further comments

poppa bear · Mar 19, 2010

primal said:
Cheers PB much appreciated
2 things

1 When I booted my PC today the windows mail was still there but the account I had created was gone and I had to recreate. Later I rebooted and the account was there but it had been off overnight in the first instance.

2 I was able to copy all my message from win mail on vista by importing. But, a folder I had created especially for read receipts will not copy. I can copy it and I can create a READ folder in win 7 but copy to folder is greyed out. It is a small thing but would like to get it right if possible. Have noted your further comments

There are different methods of importing Windows Mail folders, accounts, emails and contacts. Some of these methods create problems. I don't know exactly which method you have used. I have done a post found here on the method which I found the easiest and safest.

If I understand you correctly, the account is now stable and holding.

This means the only problem remaining is with the custom folder you created and not being able to drag/drop to it. Unfortunately, I don't know why this is so. You could try deleting it, rebooting and re-creating it.

However, if I were in your situation, and wanted a squeaky clean installation, as long as you have all the original emails and folders, (including custom made ones), intact in Vista Windows Mail, then I would import the whole thing from scratch as per the post I've mentioned above.

Part of that process is to totally delete all files in Local Folders in Windows 7, found under AppData (not program files),via the pathway shown below. This is the only way the import will work properly. But the beauty of it is that you're importing to a clean slate, with no inherent problems from past history. This is the pathway, however, to see AppData, you will need to change View settings to allow hidden folders to be visible:

Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders

It imports all Accounts fully set up; All Local Folders & Custom created sub-folders in their correct place, (*Note: A custom folder must have an email in it, or it won't import). All you'll have to do to make the accounts operable is put in your user name and password when prompted by your ISP when you first open WinMail.exe.

Since you simply copy/paste the entire contents of Local Folders from AppData in Vista, your emails in Vista will remain intact. However, you will lose everything in WinMail in Windows 7. So if you've got any emails there that are not in Vista, first save these to a back-up storage folder or USB stick.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB

primal · Mar 20, 2010

poppa bear said:
primal said:

Cheers PB much appreciated
2 things

1 When I booted my PC today the windows mail was still there but the account I had created was gone and I had to recreate. Later I rebooted and the account was there but it had been off overnight in the first instance.

2 I was able to copy all my message from win mail on vista by importing. But, a folder I had created especially for read receipts will not copy. I can copy it and I can create a READ folder in win 7 but copy to folder is greyed out. It is a small thing but would like to get it right if possible. Have noted your further comments

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There are different methods of importing Windows Mail folders, accounts, emails and contacts. Some of these methods create problems. I don't know exactly which method you have used. I have done a post found here on the method which I found the easiest and safest.

If I understand you correctly, the account is now stable and holding.

This means the only problem remaining is with the custom folder you created and not being able to drag/drop to it. Unfortunately, I don't know why this is so. You could try deleting it, rebooting and re-creating it.

However, if I were in your situation, and wanted a squeaky clean installation, as long as you have all the original emails and folders, (including custom made ones), intact in Vista Windows Mail, then I would import the whole thing from scratch as per the post I've mentioned above.

Part of that process is to totally delete all files in Local Folders in Windows 7, found under AppData (not program files),via the pathway shown below. This is the only way the import will work properly. But the beauty of it is that you're importing to a clean slate, with no inherent problems from past history. This is the pathway, however, to see AppData, you will need to change View settings to allow hidden folders to be visible:

Start orb --> User Name --> AppData --> Local --> Microsoft --> Windows Mail --> Local Folders

It imports all Accounts fully set up; All Local Folders & Custom created sub-folders in their correct place, (*Note: A custom folder must have an email in it, or it won't import). All you'll have to do to make the accounts operable is put in your user name and password when prompted by your ISP when you first open WinMail.exe.

Since you simply copy/paste the entire contents of Local Folders from AppData in Vista, your emails in Vista will remain intact. However, you will lose everything in WinMail in Windows 7. So if you've got any emails there that are not in Vista, first save these to a back-up storage folder or USB stick.

Hope this helps. Cheers PB

PB Thanks again for your feedback
Yes the account is stable and holding

I did it by going to Window mail tools/options/advanced/maintenance/store which is C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders

Then I went to that path in explorer and copied everything into a backup which I placed on the vista desktop. Copied to a USB and put USB in 7 machine. Then imported everything. I found that there was a two of everything. The original inbox/outbox on the winmail 7 and the imported ones. So I copied all the mails and deleted the imports. This worked for everything except my custom folder for read receipts. I could, as stated, recreate this but the mails would not copy. I cannot recall if my custom folder imported but if it did the same thing applies i.e. could not copy read receipts. I just tried your manual method as at:-
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2. Manual Method:
Open WinMail.exe application on the Vista desktop.
In Local Folders: Drag and drop contents of each sub-folder onto a USB data stick. That is: Inbox, Outbox, Sent Items & Drafts; plus any custom made sub-folders you have created, such as Accounts, Invoices, etc.
Open WinMail on desktop of Windows 7.
Drag and drop contents of Inbox, Outbox, etc, from the USB stick into the corresponding folders of Local Folders in WinMail. In Local Folders, it will be necessary to create matching sub-folders for your imported custom made folders, before you can drag/drop to them.
Set up email accounts manually.
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I ws able to copy the contents of the vista custom folder to its comrade on 7
I found I only needed to copy the contents of the READ custom folder as the rest were there. That OK? If not I can delete all the files in app data in 7 and start over

Cheers to you too PB, much appreciated

poppa bear · Mar 21, 2010

primal said:
PB Thanks again for your feedback
Yes the account is stable and holding

I did it by going to Window mail tools/options/advanced/maintenance/store which is C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders

Then I went to that path in explorer and copied everything into a backup which I placed on the vista desktop. Copied to a USB and put USB in 7 machine. Then imported everything. I found that there was a two of everything. The original inbox/outbox on the winmail 7 and the imported ones. So I copied all the mails and deleted the imports. This worked for everything except my custom folder for read receipts. I could, as stated, recreate this but the mails would not copy. I cannot recall if my custom folder imported but if it did the same thing applies i.e. could not copy read receipts. I just tried your manual method as at:-
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2. Manual Method:
Open WinMail.exe application on the Vista desktop.
In Local Folders: Drag and drop contents of each sub-folder onto a USB data stick. That is: Inbox, Outbox, Sent Items & Drafts; plus any custom made sub-folders you have created, such as Accounts, Invoices, etc.
Open WinMail on desktop of Windows 7.
Drag and drop contents of Inbox, Outbox, etc, from the USB stick into the corresponding folders of Local Folders in WinMail. In Local Folders, it will be necessary to create matching sub-folders for your imported custom made folders, before you can drag/drop to them.
Set up email accounts manually.
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I ws able to copy the contents of the vista custom folder to its comrade on 7
I found I only needed to copy the contents of the READ custom folder as the rest were there. That OK? If not I can delete all the files in app data in 7 and start over

Cheers to you too PB, much appreciated

That sounds good to me. I don't think you need to start over again. As long as all your custom folders are set up and working, and all your accounts working, and your emails correctly installed it should be fine.

For the purposes of clarity, the reason you got two sets of everything was because Local Folders in Windows 7 needed to be totally cleaned out before importing. Warning:This should only be done if you use the Simple Method in my post here.

I'm not referring to Local Folders in the WinMail.exe interface on your desktop, but the one shown in your pathway:

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders.

Click this picture to see what the folder looks like as it appears in Vista. You will notice it includes custom made folders, and also your accounts. I have replaced the original account codes with strings of x & y for security reasons.

In a nutshell, if you ever need to do it again:

In Windows 7, delete the entire contents of Local Folders, as shown in the right pane of the picture.
In Vista, copy the entire contents of the Local Folders, which appear in the right pane of the picture; including custom folders and accounts.
Paste the contents from Vista Local Folders into the empty Windows 7 Local Folders.

In my own case it's easy because I've got Vista and Windows 7 on the same hard drive.

Cheers PB

primal · Mar 21, 2010

For the purposes of clarity, the reason you got two sets of everything was because Local Folders in Windows 7 needed to be totally cleaned out before importing.

Thanks for that explanation PB. I understand all the other points you make about the path etc but that did not occur to me.

I am now setting up all accounts in the win 7. Thanks for all your help

poppa bear · Mar 21, 2010

primal said:
For the purposes of clarity, the reason you got two sets of everything was because Local Folders in Windows 7 needed to be totally cleaned out before importing.

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Thanks for that explanation PB. I understand all the other points you make about the path etc but that did not occur to me. I am now setting up all accounts in the win 7. Thanks for all your help

Hi Primal,

I hope I am not confusing you with too much information, but there is one final point I feel I should make.

The Local Folders found in the Pathway shown below should never be used for creating new folders in. You can do it, but they won't show up when you open WinMail.exe on desktop, because they are not linked to WinMail.exe interface on the desktop.

C:\Users\username\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Mail\Local Folders

New custom folders should always be created in the WinMail.exe interface on your desktop. By doing it this way, the new folders will then be linked to WinMail.exe on desktop and will also appear in the Local Folders shown at the address above; but it doesn't work in reverse.

The Local Folders shown at the above address is only used to import pre-linked folders to, from an existing equivalent Local Folders in Vista. Such folders will have been linked to the WinMail.exe interface on desktop of Vista when they were created there. And hence auto linked to WinMail.exe interface on the desktop of Windows 7 when imported to Local Folders in the above address in Windows 7.

Hope this makes sense and helps you to understand what's going on.

Cheers PB

muhammed700 · Mar 23, 2010

Thank you good work

unoromanista194 · Mar 23, 2010

How to reinstate Windows Mail on Windows 7

Hi Mr Grim
I have done the steps at least four times and I still cannot see win mail. Therefor I cannot do step 4 b.
I am running Windows 7 ultimate 64 bits
Thank you
unoromanista194

poppa bear · Mar 23, 2010

unoromanista194 said:
Hi Mr Grim
I have done the steps at least four times and I still cannot see win mail. Therefor I cannot do step 4 b.
I am running Windows 7 ultimate 64 bits
Thank you
unoromanista194

WinMail.exe in the Windows Mail folder in Program Files is made visible by doing Step 2. See Footnote 3 at the bottom of the tutorial to see exactly where to look for the program files. Do NOT look in the 32bit Program files(x86).

Step 2 involves running the "remove attributes" command in the Run command box. The command you need to type in is exactly as shown below in black type, and the best way to make sure you don't make any mistakes with it is to copy and paste it into the Run command box:

COPY THIS ==> attrib -s -h "%ProgramFiles%\Windows Mail\WinMail.exe"

Once it's pasted or typed in click: OK.

Having done this, WinMail.exe will be visible in Windows Mail folder Program Files.

unoromanista194 · Mar 23, 2010

How to reinstate Windows Mail on Windows 7

Hi
Thank you very much for the quick come back.
I have done what you said ans still no winmail.exe
I must really be doing something crazy.
Thank you
unoromanista194

poppa bear · Mar 23, 2010

unoromanista194 said:
Hi
Thank you very much for the quick come back.
I have done what you said ans still no winmail.exe
I must really be doing something crazy.
Thank you
unoromanista194

I don't know why this is happening. I am running Windows 7 Ultimate, and to test the Run command in Step 2, I deleted all the files in Windows Mail folder and restored the original Windows Mail files from the original Windows 7 installation. And it worked fine.

There is a work around. Go to: Start Orb --> Computer --> C: Drive --> Program Files --> Open: Windows Mail --> Top Task Bar --> Tools --> Drop down menu choose: Folder Options --> View Tab

Put a dot in: Show hidden files, folders... Untick: Hide empty drives... Hide extensions... Hide protected operating... When it shows the warning and asks if you want to do this tick: Yes. Then click Apply --> OK.

This will enable WinMail.exe to be seen. Right click: WinMail.exe --> send to desktop as a shortcut. Then reset your folder view options to default.

Then continue the tutorial with Step 3. After you've finished, please note, when you click the WinMail.exe desktop shortcut, it may take 10 - 15 seconds to open. And it should then prompt you to save WinMail as default. Tick yes, and untick: Show this every time WinMail starts up. You're done.

If this doesn't work, it means that your original WinMail.exe file is somehow missing from your Windows Mail folder. In this case, you will need to restore it from a back-up copy of the files from the original Windows Mail 7 installation. Of course you won't see WinMail.exe in this back-up copy unless you make the files visible as shown above. If you haven't got a back up copy try running the System File Check command in the Run box command box. Type in, or copy/paste: sfc /scannow --> click OK. And this should restore it.

One other possibility is if you've got Windows Live Mail installed. WinLiveMail uses the Windows Mail folder, and can sometimes cause conflicts. If this is the case uninstall WinLiveMail using the option in Control Panel --> Programs and Features --> Uninstall

The reason for using the Run command option is to make WinMail.exe file permanently visible. With the above work around it means if you ever need to create a new desktop shortcut again, you will have to make the hidden folders visible again.

Cheers PB

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