Windows Mail

How to Reinstate Windows Mail in Windows 7

   Warning
Microsoft no longer supports Windows Mail, aka WinMail. It's recommended you use another well known supported email client. This Tutorial is for Advanced users who importantly have the Technical Ability to make the changes, have backups of everything including your OS, and to be your own tech support for WinMail going forward. If you decide to complete this tutorial you accept the fact that you are using WinMail as-is. It might be necessary to uninstall other email clients to resolve any WinMail conflicts in some environments. Understand it's likely that new OS updates from Microsoft will break WinMail's operation, and to fix make it necessary to rerun the tutorial again to reinstate it. With those things in mind, this tutorial was written so that you can rerun it without affecting WinMail user data.
Please see this Errata (Bug List) post before you install, to be aware of the current information about known issues using WinMail within Windows 7, these issues are programmatic and in most cases cannot be resolved by this tutorial, and will never be fixed.

Having said all of that disclaimer, if you have the technical ability, and can put up with the annoying minor byproduct bugs, then like so many of us still enjoy using WinMail on Windows 7 ...ymmv!


   Tip
As of January, 2025, the instructions given here supersede all other instructions given in forthcoming older posts. Realize some of the posts that follow are over 16 years old, and many of the link pointers within have become mislinked over time, many of the files or information within them is outdated, incomplete, or superseded with more accurate information - and so be careful. However you can always be sure that the latest info from all research is incorporated into this tutorial post, and its downloads are the latest available. This post is continuously kept up-to-date, and so..
...Always refer to this Tutorial post for the very latest updated information

This is the 4th iteration of the Windows 7, WinMail tutorial.

The process of this tutorial Will Not work to reinstate WinMail on Windows 8/10 !
Windows 8/10 users please go Here


Start here
  1. Download tutorial package TutReWinMail.zip

    Download

  2. Extract the TutReWinMail.zip into your user Downloads folder
    • Note: Be sure once extracted this is the address of the ''TutReWinMail'' folder:
    • C:\Users\username\Downloads\TutReWinMail... ... (if it's not there please put it there)
  3. Navigate to your user Downloads\TutReWinMail folder to be sure the above is correct.
    • (..if you need more verbose install instructions to follow, download this WinMail Local Tutorial.zip)
    • Advanced Users can proceed below:
      (..log in for Full Access, being able to get support, remove ads, like, and even to post, etc..)
Advanced Users: ..use this easy excellent overview of the steps in the local tutorial:
  • Open an Administrator Command Prompt. (screenshot showing in Administrator mode)
  • copy/paste this line into the command prompt: cd %USERPROFILE%\Downloads\TutReWinMail\
  • Your command prompt must now be showing you are at That Same Folder Address ..which contains the tutorial files that the batch file in the next step executes programs and copies files specifically from that folder address - if it's not there the batch file will fail since it cannot find what it needs!
  • Next type in either winmail32 or win64mail <matching OS bit, to interactively process These Next Steps
  • If you've finished to the bottom as shown in last screenshot, restart your machine (sets registry)
  • Create a shortcut from WinMail.exe to your Desktop
  • Open WinMail - it may prompt you one (or both) of These Two Notices ..click yes, and okay.
  • They now should be already set, but you can manually check/set at any time These Default Settings
  • That's pretty much all there is to it, and from here you setup the rest of the Windows Mail client (aka: WinMail) as normal within its various tab menus for Accounts, Options, Layout, etc, etc, to suit your individual needs.
  • Lastly, but should be the First thing you do, is to Create A WinMail Backup (new version) ..Go to this next link and when you get there scroll down to the heading: Backup/Restore Procedures for further instructions.
   Information
See How to open an elevated Administrator Command Prompt
Important: The exact text provided by the tutorial must be entered into the Administrator Command Prompt.
Hint: to avoid typos, copy/paste the entire line containing the command into the Command Prompt window.
Also see: How to Enable Copy to Clipboard from the Windows 7 Command Prompt

Every effort has been made to make this a step-by-step process, however, it is beyond the scope of a single tutorial to provide information on every command or concept. Search the Main Tutorial Section if you need greater detail on a concept or command presented in this tutorial.


Good luck, and long live WinMail :thumbsup:



   Note
Made possible by members:
Mark (aka Mr GRiM) - provided the original tutorial
Poppa Bear - continued Mark's work within the 2nd version
endeavor - provided continuous feedback, changes, invaluable testing instrumental to tutorial operations
EKManitis - propose the batch code that made operations easier
Slartybart - updated, tested, and consolidated all of the above into the 3rd version
endeavor - reviewed, updated, tested, and incorporated all of the above into this 4th version
...and also a special thanks to All the other members who presented discovery for this project

 

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To alientrader,

roncerr has pretty well answered your queries, but here are a few pointers. Re:
First, in step 2, you have a space between Windows and Mail. Is this right?
The safest and easiest way is to copy and paste the code in the box shown as is suggested in Step 2. This way there can be no mistakes. To do this:

- Highlight the code shown in the box in step 2 --> Right click the highlighted code --> Click: Copy in the drop down menu.

- Open the Run command by going to: Start Orb --> All Programs --> Accessories --> Run

- Past the code into the Run command box by placing your mouse pointer in the empty box --> Right click --> click: Paste --> Click: OK.

Re:
2nd in step 3, note 1, WinMail file is there, WinMailEdit folder is there, but the WinMail.exe is missing. This is probably why I can't get it to work, but I followed your instructions explicitly, all the way through.
There seems to be some misunderstanding. WinMailEdit is not an operating system folder. It is a zipped folder containing a registry edit file that is downloaded from the download link in Step 1. It works by simply extracting the WinMailEdit file and clicking it, and following the prompts. Once this is done, you don't need it again.

In Program files you have a folder called Windows Mail. Inside that folder is a hidden file called WinMail.exe.

Footnote 4 >WINDOWS MAIL> TOP TASK BAR>TOOLS> ETC. There is no tools button on the top task bar, or anywhere else in this window.
You are correct in so far as the tutorial assumes you know how to make the Menu bar visible. This is done by opening any folder and going to:

Top Task Bar --> Organize --> Layout --> Tick: Menu Bar. The menu bar will now be visible above the original task bar, and contains the Tools option.


Re roncerr's statement:
Although they may not have spelled it out, you must also "show file extensions" to see the ".exe" in "WinMail.exe".
Part of Footnote 4 specifically says:
Untick: Hide empty drives... Hide extensions... Hide protected operating...
If the 'Hide extensions' option had been unticked you would have seen the .exe on the end of WinMail.exe.

Re:
2nd in step 3, note 1, WinMail file is there... but the WinMail.exe is missing
WinMail file is the WinMail.exe file with the .exe file extension hidden.

What I don't understand is how you got the WinMail file to show up at all in the Windows Mail folder?

One the one hand, if you had successfully run Step 2, it would show WinMail.exe with the .exe file extension on the end, or not show up at all. Step 2 either totally works or not at all.

On the other hand, if Step 2 didn't work, and you didn't know how to run Footnote 4, how did you get it to show up? It could only show up as WinMail without the .exe extension by using footnote 4 but leaving "Hide file extensions..." ticked.

Re:
Also, where do you go to restore Default View Settings, if you ever do get this to work?
When you ran Footnote 4 and opened the View tab, at the bottom of that window it has a button that reads: "Restore Defaults". Simply click this button.

To roncerr re:
So that to restore our Windows Mail functionality with the needed security we have to replace the .dll again with an updated copy when it's added to the tutorial.
You're quite right. The msoe.dll does have to be replaced with an updated one, and this is available from the download buttons in Step 4 of the main tutorial on page 1 of the thread. However, I would be very surprised if this is further updated, as hopefully there is only the single security vulnerability, which is fixed by the updated msoe.dll. At least that's what Microsoft said in their post on it.

Note that once the Microsoft update is loaded on your PC, and you've replaced the current msoe.dll with the upgraded one, you don't have to remove/block this update; and your mail is now safe from the potential security breach. In fact on my 32bit installation of Windows 7, the update didn't even bork Windows Mail.

To bjproc re:
one thought is though, if M$ aren't supporting WM as an email client, why have the windows mail folder in program files in the first place?, does windows live mail use any of it?
Yes, the purpose of the Windows Mail folder is to allow Windows Live Mail to operate. The whole problem came about through problems M$ was having with the European market fair trading laws. M$ couldn't decide between having two versions of Windows 7; one for the Western Market, and one for the European market... or one version without Windows Mail, which is what we've got now.
 
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Still no Windows Mail

Hey Poppa Bear,

Thanks for the tips, but still can't get WinMail working. The tip about finding the

toolbar under Organize was great! Typical M$ though, what a misnomer for finding

the toolbar. Why is the toolbar not always visible?

Do I need to uninstall Windows Live Mail for this to work?

Also, somewhere the tutorial said to Start>Control Panel>Folder Options, but you

have to Start>Control Panel>Appearance first to see the Folder Options. The only

reason I mention this, is that it took me quite awhile to find it.

When you say Start Orb, is the Orb significant, as I have never seen this before.

Lastly, I have a folder in WinMail called msoe_64, and a file called MSOERES.dll,

along with the standard msoe.dll file. Could one of these be causing my problem?

Thanks for any help,

Barry
 

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Hey Poppa Bear,

Thanks for the tips, but still can't get WinMail working. The tip about finding the

toolbar under Organize was great! Typical M$ though, what a misnomer for finding

the toolbar. Why is the toolbar not always visible?

Do I need to uninstall Windows Live Mail for this to work?

Also, somewhere the tutorial said to Start>Control Panel>Folder Options, but you

have to Start>Control Panel>Appearance first to see the Folder Options. The only

reason I mention this, is that it took me quite awhile to find it.

When you say Start Orb, is the Orb significant, as I have never seen this before.

Lastly, I have a folder in WinMail called msoe_64, and a file called MSOERES.dll,

along with the standard msoe.dll file. Could one of these be causing my problem?

Thanks for any help,

Barry
Hi Barry,

First off I've got to correct wrong information I gave you in my earlier post... sorry about that. Set out below is picture of a 64bit Windows Mail folder. As you can see, WinMail file is visible without the .exe file extension. This means you ran Step 2 correctly, which is a better way than manually changing folder view options which is only temporary. Using Step 2 the WinMail folder is permanently visible.

Click on the picture to enlarge it.​

Capture.PNG

Just to make sure we're on the same page, I assume your copy of Windows 7 is the 64bit version? If this is correct, there are two Windows Mail folders; one in the normal 64bit Program files and one in the 32bit Program files(x86). Ignore the one in the 32bit Program files(x86) ,and only work on the one in normal 64bit Program files - See Footnote 3 of main tutorial. The following pic shows where the two sets of Program files are stored.

Program Files(x86).PNG


1. As you can see in the first pic both the MSOERES.dll & msoe.dll files are present in the Windows Mail folder, but not msoe_64. As a first step you could try deleting this file, but before doing so, make a back-up copy for safety and save it in a storage folder. You will probably have to Take Ownership of it before you will able to remove it.

2. It is necessary to install the Microsoft update KB978542 before installing the msoe.dll file downloaded in step 4 of main tutorial. If you install the update after installing the msoe.dll, the update will modify it and hence bork it. So I'm assuming you've already downloaded the update.

3. I'm also assuming you have successfully run the WinMailEdit registry editor in Step 1. If not, download it and run it.

4. Delete the msoe.dll you have in Windows Mail using Take Ownership if necessary.

5. Download the modified 64bit Vista msoe.dll file from the 2nd download button in Step 4 of the main tutorial.

6. Install this downloaded msoe.dll file into the Windows Mail folder.

6. Right click the WinMail file and send to desktop as a shortcut.

7. Shut everything and re-boot your PC.

Now try opening Windows Mail by clicking on the WinMail shortcut. Note: It usually takes 8 -12 seconds to open, and when it does, it should prompt you to set Windows Mail as default mail client. Choose "yes" for default; and "no" for the option to show this selection window every time WinMail starts.

In some environments Windows Live Mail can stop Windows Mail working. Therefore, if it is still not working, save all your emails, and uninstall Windows Live Mail. Warning: Be sure to do this through: Control Panel --> Programs & Features --> Uninstall - by clicking Windows Live Mail. Also uninstall any other related Windows Live Mail programs.

Reboot once again, and see if this fixes it.
 
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I want to add my thank you, Mark. I lost my ability to open WinMail when I allowed KB978542 to install today. I knew right where to come for a fix. :)

Thanks, again. ~ Gail
 

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I want to add my thank you, Mark. I lost my ability to open WinMail when I allowed KB978542 to install today. I knew right where to come for a fix. :)

Thanks, again. ~ Gail

Unfortunately Microsoft file KB 97842 blocked WinMail forever unless you like Mail Live :sarc: I hate personally or you can use Microsoft Outlook
 

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Hey Poppa Bear,

Thanks for the tips, but still can't get WinMail working. The tip about finding the

toolbar under Organize was great! Typical M$ though, what a misnomer for finding

the toolbar. Why is the toolbar not always visible?

Do I need to uninstall Windows Live Mail for this to work?

Also, somewhere the tutorial said to Start>Control Panel>Folder Options, but you

have to Start>Control Panel>Appearance first to see the Folder Options. The only

reason I mention this, is that it took me quite awhile to find it.

When you say Start Orb, is the Orb significant, as I have never seen this before.

Lastly, I have a folder in WinMail called msoe_64, and a file called MSOERES.dll,

along with the standard msoe.dll file. Could one of these be causing my problem?

Thanks for any help,

Barry

Microsoft Security file KB 978542 blocked Win Mail forever because they want you to use Mail Live :( personally I hate ( very stupid designed by Microsoft people ) or you can use Microsoft Outlook :party: or some of free email software out there but some of them :( doesn't work on Windows 7 at all
 

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To alientrader,

roncerr has pretty well answered your queries, but here are a few pointers. Re:
First, in step 2, you have a space between Windows and Mail. Is this right?
The safest and easiest way is to copy and paste the code in the box shown as is suggested in Step 2. This way there can be no mistakes. To do this:

- Highlight the code shown in the box in step 2 --> Right click the highlighted code --> Click: Copy in the drop down menu.

- Open the Run command by going to: Start Orb --> All Programs --> Accessories --> Run

- Past the code into the Run command box by placing your mouse pointer in the empty box --> Right click --> click: Paste --> Click: OK.

Re:
2nd in step 3, note 1, WinMail file is there, WinMailEdit folder is there, but the WinMail.exe is missing. This is probably why I can't get it to work, but I followed your instructions explicitly, all the way through.
There seems to be some misunderstanding. WinMailEdit is not an operating system folder. It is a zipped folder containing a registry edit file that is downloaded from the download link in Step 1. It works by simply extracting the WinMailEdit file and clicking it, and following the prompts. Once this is done, you don't need it again.

In Program files you have a folder called Windows Mail. Inside that folder is a hidden file called WinMail.exe.

You are correct in so far as the tutorial assumes you know how to make the Menu bar visible. This is done by opening any folder and going to:

Top Task Bar --> Organize --> Layout --> Tick: Menu Bar. The menu bar will now be visible above the original task bar, and contains the Tools option.


Re roncerr's statement:Part of Footnote 4 specifically says:If the 'Hide extensions' option had been unticked you would have seen the .exe on the end of WinMail.exe.

Re:WinMail file is the WinMail.exe file with the .exe file extension hidden.

What I don't understand is how you got the WinMail file to show up at all in the Windows Mail folder?

One the one hand, if you had successfully run Step 2, it would show WinMail.exe with the .exe file extension on the end, or not show up at all. Step 2 either totally works or not at all.

On the other hand, if Step 2 didn't work, and you didn't know how to run Footnote 4, how did you get it to show up? It could only show up as WinMail without the .exe extension by using footnote 4 but leaving "Hide file extensions..." ticked.

Re:When you ran Footnote 4 and opened the View tab, at the bottom of that window it has a button that reads: "Restore Defaults". Simply click this button.

To roncerr re:
So that to restore our Windows Mail functionality with the needed security we have to replace the .dll again with an updated copy when it's added to the tutorial.
You're quite right. The msoe.dll does have to be replaced with an updated one, and this is available from the download buttons in Step 4 of the main tutorial on page 1 of the thread. However, I would be very surprised if this is further updated, as hopefully there is only the single security vulnerability, which is fixed by the updated msoe.dll. At least that's what Microsoft said in their post on it.

Note that once the Microsoft update is loaded on your PC, and you've replaced the current msoe.dll with the upgraded one, you don't have to remove/block this update; and your mail is now safe from the potential security breach. In fact on my 32bit installation of Windows 7, the update didn't even bork Windows Mail.

To bjproc re:
one thought is though, if M$ aren't supporting WM as an email client, why have the windows mail folder in program files in the first place?, does windows live mail use any of it?
Yes, the purpose of the Windows Mail folder is to allow Windows Live Mail to operate. The whole problem came about through problems M$ was having with the European market fair trading laws. M$ couldn't decide between having two versions of Windows 7; one for the Western Market, and one for the European market... or one version without Windows Mail, which is what we've got now.

Microsoft Security file KB 978542 blocked Win Mail forever :( so good bye Win Mail and they want you to use Mail Live ( personally I hate this stupid Microsoft program ) unless you use Microsoft Outlook :party: or some free email software out there but some of them doesn't work on Windows 7 :cry:
 

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Hi Maximus ~ I uninstalled KB978542, and hid it in Updates so I won't mistakenly install it again. After following Mark's tutorial carefully, WinMail works fine for me in my 64-bit Windows 7, just as it did before.

From now on, I will be sure to READ what each Update affects, AND check this forum, before I blithely allow any of them to install. I've learned my lesson. ~ Gail
 

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To MaximusCommodus re:
Unfortunately Microsoft file KB 97842 blocked WinMail forever unless you like Mail Live :sarc: I hate personally or you can use Microsoft Outlook
To Moonlight re:
I uninstalled KB978542, and hid it in Updates so I won't mistakenly install it again. After following Mark's tutorial carefully, WinMail works fine for me in my 64-bit Windows 7, just as it did before.

From now on, I will be sure to READ what each Update affects, AND check this forum, before I blithely allow any of them to install. I've learned my lesson. ~ Gail
With all due respect, you're both missing the point.

Update KB978542 was created to protect users from a security breach issue detected in the msoe.dll file in the Windows Mail folder, so it's basically a good thing. If it hadn't come out, the msoe.dll in your Windows Mail would have been vulnerable to breaches of security. The problem is it modifies the hacked msoe.dll file used in the tutorial, and hence stops Windows Mail working.

So you now need a new Vista msoe.dll which has been modified by update KB978542 in order to get the security protection. The msoe.dll available in the download button in Step 4 of the tutorial on page 1 of this thread contains this modified security protected Vista msoe.dll file.

All you need to do to restore Windows Mail is replace the existing msoe.dll file in Windows Mail with the msoe.dll available from the download button in Step 4 on Page 1 of this thread, after you have downloaded update KB978542.

It is best NOT to remove update KB978542 for two reasons.

1. By leaving it there it will not be downloaded again in any future updates, because it's already there. If it is downloaded after the repairs are done, it will bork Windows Mail again, and you will have to repair it again.

2. It ensures that any security protection it gives to any other related ancillary files in Windows Mail folder will be preserved.

In your case Moonlight it means if you want to get this update back, you will then have to replace the msoe.dll file again.

Cheers PB
 

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I downloaded the new msoe.dll from step 4 on first page and it did not work.Am wary of hacking registry as in footnote. Is there a safe way to back up registry
I did a system restore to before the update that crippled winmail and got winmail back but i realise tha the update is necessary
 
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I downloaded the new msoe.dll from step 4 on first page and it did not work.Am wary of hacking registry as in footnote. Is there a safe way to back up registry

@primal,

I think you do not need a backup...If you start in safe mode (best way to avoid restriction due to UAC)

Just remane the msoe.dll-old and replace it by the new one, in the folder after having unlock the file. Restart and see if it's works, then delete the msoe.dll-old.

Be sure to follow each step to unhidde the files & folders.
 

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Thank you, Poppa Bear. I understand. I will unhide the update, download and install it. Then, I'll go through the tutorial procedure again. I still have the downloaded zip of msoe.dll from the tutorial page. Thank you, again, for your explanation. ~ Gail
 

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To Primal re:
I downloaded the new msoe.dll from step 4 on first page and it did not work.Am wary of hacking registry as in footnote. Is there a safe way to back up registry
I did a system restore to before the update that crippled winmail and got winmail back but i realize that the update is necessary
I assume you carried out the following steps.

1. Did a system restore so the KB update was gone and WinMail was working again

2. Replaced the old msoe.dll with the new one.

3. Downloaded the update KB978542.

The problem is by downloading the KB978542 update AFTER you installed the new modified msoe.dll, the KB update would then modify the latest msoe.dll and bork WinMail again.

The trick is to do things in the right order as follows:

1. If you've done a system restore, first download the KB update.

2. Only then replace the old msoe.dll with the new modified msoe.dll from the download link in Step 4.

This will allow WinMail to work again, and since you already have the KB978542 update installed, when you next run an update search Microsoft will recognize that KB978542 update is already installed and will not install it again, which would bork WinMail.

To Moonlight re:
Thank you, Poppa Bear. I understand. I will unhide the update, download and install it. Then, I'll go through the tutorial procedure again. I still have the downloaded zip of msoe.dll from the tutorial page. Thank you, again, for your explanation. ~ Gail
You're welcome Gail. You shouldn't really need to do the whole tutorial again, just replace the msoe.dll file with the new one after you've got the KB update installed.

You may possibly have to Take Ownership of the old msoe.dll to remove it because when the KB update modified the old one, it would now treat it as a protected Windows operating system file.

Cheers PB
 
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To Primal re:
I downloaded the new msoe.dll from step 4 on first page and it did not work.Am wary of hacking registry as in footnote. Is there a safe way to back up registry
I did a system restore to before the update that crippled winmail and got winmail back but i realize that the update is necessary
I assume you carried out the following steps.

1. Did a system restore so the KB update was gone and WinMail was working again

2. Replaced the old msoe.dll with the new one.

3. Downloaded the update KB978542.

The problem is by downloading the KB978542 update AFTER you installed the new modified msoe.dll, the KB update would then modify the latest msoe.dll and bork WinMail again.

The trick is to do things in the right order as follows:

1. If you've done a system restore, first download the KB update.

2. Only then replace the old msoe.dll with the new modified msoe.dll from the download link in Step 4.

This will allow WinMail to work again, and since you already have the KB978542 update installed, when you next run an update search Microsoft will recognize that KB978542 update is already installed and will not install it again, which would bork WinMail.
Hi PB I only did the system restore because the new msoe.dll after the KB978542 update installed,made no diference hence it seems i will have to reg edit
 

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thanks now windows is back but when its not the defualt email sender, when i hit email link a window of office outlook is open and the programm sending the emails is still office outlook, i tried to solve this from programs association but still didnt work.
 

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thanks now windows is back but when its not the defualt email sender, when i hit email link a window of office outlook is open and the programm sending the emails is still office outlook, i tried to solve this from programs association but still didnt work.

You'll have to set it by default with the file provided on first page...aka: SetWinMailDefault.zip
 

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To Primal re:
Hi PB I only did the system restore because the new msoe.dll after the KB978542 update installed, made no diference hence it seems I will have to reg edit
Hi Primal,

I don't know what's going on there. I've tested the new msoe.dll file on both 32 & 64bit operating systems and it's worked fine on both. In fact on most 32bit installations the KB update doesn't even bork Windows Mail. With 64bit it's an absolute must to replace it.

Just a thought, but did you make sure you used the 64bit msoe.dll file if you're using a 64bit installation of Windows 7; and of course, put it in the normal Program Files, not Program files(x86)?

Maybe you will have to run the whole tutorial from the beginning?

Hope this helps. PB
 

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thanks now windows is back but when its not the defualt email sender, when i hit email link a window of office outlook is open and the programm sending the emails is still office outlook, i tried to solve this from programs association but still didnt work.
I've had a few reports of this happening where Office outlook is installed.

You could try the following:

1. Click on Start Orb --> All Programs --> Default Programs --> Click: Set your default programs.

2. In the left panel: Highlight Windows Mail --> Click: Set this program as default.

If this doesn't work you may need to uninstall Outlook from your Office installation. The best way to do this is using your Office installation disk, not through Control Panel.

Hope this helps. PB
 

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thanks now windows is back but when its not the defualt email sender, when i hit email link a window of office outlook is open and the programm sending the emails is still office outlook, i tried to solve this from programs association but still didnt work.
I've had a few reports of this happening where Office outlook is installed.

You could try the following:

1. Click on Start Orb --> All Programs --> Default Programs --> Click: Set your default programs.

2. In the left panel: Highlight Windows Mail --> Click: Set this program as default.

If this doesn't work you may need to uninstall Outlook from your Office installation. The best way to do this is using your Office installation disk, not through Control Panel.

Hope this helps. PB

The probs doing that, hide again the Windows Mail...

Not changing the new msoe.dll, but you'll have to unhidde files & folders again and recreate the shorcut on desktop to pin it in the menu or taskbar....
 

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To Primal re:
Hi PB I only did the system restore because the new msoe.dll after the KB978542 update installed, made no diference hence it seems I will have to reg edit
Hi Primal

I don't know what's going on there. I've tested the new msoe.dll file on both 32 & 64bit operating systems and it's worked fine on both. In fact on most 32bit installations the KB update doesn't even bork Windows Mail. With 64bit it's an absolute must to replace it.,

Just a thought, but did you make sure you used the 64bit msoe.dll file if you're using a 64bit installation of Windows 7; and of course, put it in the normal Program Files, not Program files(x86)?
sure did PB know that cos I got it wrong a couple times
Maybe you will have to run the whole tutorial from the beginning?
think i will do a disk image and then hack the reg

Hope this helps. PB
thanks PB
 

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