Solved Windows Seven strange start-up Problem

Its a little play on words when Windows XP was still big registry cleaners and tweakers and PC tune up utilities worked great. But Windows 7 has no need of these things and often times the end up doing irreparable damage to the OS.
 

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Almost all of the tweaking in XP and early VIsta was done to claw back performance that was sapped by too many services being set to Automatic and running the background so that they'd be ready to go. This was death to low resource PC's.

Win7 solved this by developing Fast Triggers so that most services not needed at the moment could be set to Manual. This genius improvement makes Win7 featherlight, and was quickly slipstreamed into Vista SP1 to save that OS any further ignominy. Vista is now a tolerable OS.

So Win7 needs no tweaking beyond normal system settings, CCleaner to be tidy, or perhaps with low resources editing Visual Effects of animation, sliding, fading, dragging intact and selection rectangle as shown in Optimize Windows 7 - Windows 7 Forums
 
Oh i see, Ive never had any issuse with CCLeaner or advance system care hmmmm Ive had themn here for more then a year. Im sure there not the cause I can Delete the Partition, Re-create and format then RE- install the operating system but id hate to loose most of the programs in here, Over something that may be easily fixed. I came up with some Windows Home Services error and one of the errors read that my Windows Home service time and date does not match the systems time and date but i have no knowledge on how to pull up the home service nore set the date as that may be casing a problem.

I have another question, what is Boot from last good config,Boot Defrag, and Start windows normally doing to temporarily fix the issue and allow the pc to boot like nothing ever happened? I have done this when the issue started and at times able to go in with no issues what so ever
 

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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel i7 2600 3.4ghz
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Dell OVNP2H
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16GB
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[ASUS] Nvidia GTX970 4GB (Mini Direct)
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Intergraded
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Lenovo ThinkCenter, Custom Built PC, Acer Aspire V3-771G-9809
OS
Windows 7 enterprise 64 bit, Windows 7 Pro 64 bit ,Windows 8 64bit
CPU
Core i5-2400, Athlon 64 X2 6400+ ,Core i7-3632QM
Motherboard
ASUS M4A79 Deluxe
Memory
4GB, 4gb g.skill ddr2, 8gb
Graphics Card(s)
Radeon HD 4550 sgb, Radeon HD 4870, NVIDIA Geforce GT 650m
Monitor(s) Displays
dual samsung 22" monitors
Hard Drives
500GB, Western Digital WD Blue WD6400AAKS 640GB 7200 RPM 16MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s, 1TB
Case
Antec Twelve Hundred V3 Black Steel ATX Full Tower
Cooling
ASUS Silent Square Pro
Mouse
Razar Death adder
Internet Speed
20 mbps
Ok i will uninstall the Advance System care as you suggested, I'm still trying to figure out how can i get the Windows Home Service time and date to match my systems date as one of the errors implied that it dint match along with other errors that focuses more on Windows Home services.

UpNp error-connection errors all may be based on this Windows Home service clock problem. Im sorry if this is a dum question as i have no knowledge when it comes to Windows Home service and don't even know how to pull it up as i dint see it any-ware not even on the task-bar.
 

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Dell Optiplex 990
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel i7 2600 3.4ghz
Motherboard
Dell OVNP2H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
[ASUS] Nvidia GTX970 4GB (Mini Direct)
Sound Card
Intergraded
Monitor(s) Displays
3 Monitors 1# ViewSonic 23'" 2# ViewSonic 23'" 3# DELL 23"
Screen Resolution
1920X1080P X 3
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3 Internal Satas's (Two 7200RPM 1TB (WD) (1 Sata Velocirapto 10,000RPM 500GB)
1 External Mybook 4TB USB. 1External Passport 2TB.
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Please start at the top of the thread and work through all steps given, reporting back results so we know what you've done already. There is no report back on about half the steps given.

You would save time by doing the Clean Reinstall, have a much better OS and the tools and methods to keep it that way.
 
Ok ill start from scratch no problem As far as the very first step i have ran the Programs you guys sugested so thats out of the way I just ran crystal disk info and will post a screenshot on the results to get that out of the way and i following instructions as well But to be in the same page i will postscreenshots on what was done so far so we can put a check on them and mark it as completed
 

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Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600 3.4ghz
Motherboard
Dell OVNP2H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
[ASUS] Nvidia GTX970 4GB (Mini Direct)
Sound Card
Intergraded
Monitor(s) Displays
3 Monitors 1# ViewSonic 23'" 2# ViewSonic 23'" 3# DELL 23"
Screen Resolution
1920X1080P X 3
Hard Drives
3 Internal Satas's (Two 7200RPM 1TB (WD) (1 Sata Velocirapto 10,000RPM 500GB)
1 External Mybook 4TB USB. 1External Passport 2TB.
PSU
650W
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Clean Startup Check (Using Safemode and MSConfig) Done Problem Still occurs

Safemode works fine.

Windows Defender Done (But realize i did not run the Offline method as you instructed that was my fault will be burning the ISO image to a disk today and Re run on boot.

TSDDKILLER Done (No threats found)

SFC /SCANNOW Command. Done During windows and offline on boot using the Win 7 DVD Just ran it this morning From the DVD Drive command promt and Not the C: Like i did in the video by mistake (Sorry about that lol)and still get this message Pending repair please reboot and run SFC again wich i have also done but no luck


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PC/Desktop
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Dell Optiplex 990
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Windows 7 Ultimate x64
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Intel i7 2600 3.4ghz
Motherboard
Dell OVNP2H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
[ASUS] Nvidia GTX970 4GB (Mini Direct)
Sound Card
Intergraded
Monitor(s) Displays
3 Monitors 1# ViewSonic 23'" 2# ViewSonic 23'" 3# DELL 23"
Screen Resolution
1920X1080P X 3
Hard Drives
3 Internal Satas's (Two 7200RPM 1TB (WD) (1 Sata Velocirapto 10,000RPM 500GB)
1 External Mybook 4TB USB. 1External Passport 2TB.
PSU
650W
Internet Speed
50up 50down Fios

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600 3.4ghz
Motherboard
Dell OVNP2H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
[ASUS] Nvidia GTX970 4GB (Mini Direct)
Sound Card
Intergraded
Monitor(s) Displays
3 Monitors 1# ViewSonic 23'" 2# ViewSonic 23'" 3# DELL 23"
Screen Resolution
1920X1080P X 3
Hard Drives
3 Internal Satas's (Two 7200RPM 1TB (WD) (1 Sata Velocirapto 10,000RPM 500GB)
1 External Mybook 4TB USB. 1External Passport 2TB.
PSU
650W
Internet Speed
50up 50down Fios
Ok Gar - please take this the way it is given - to help you resolve the issues on your system.

Your system is obviously compromised. How or why is not as important as resolving the issue.

The most assured way is a Clean install - that of course has it's consequences (need to reinstall drivers and beloved programs, bring Windows up-to-date, configuring your apps...). This approach has many advantages as well if the tutorial is followed step by step.
  • Your system is clean - no rootkits, no viruses, no corruption, good disks, etc
  • Your system is up-to-date, hardware drivers, applications, games, whatever you like to have on your system
  • The Registry is optimized since you haven't installed/uninstalled/updated a lot of things (other than Windows Update)
  • Most times a fresh install provides a performance boost.
The cautions are:
  • make a backup of your important data
  • have your network drivers on external media (I download all drivers from the mfgr support site before a re-install, just so I have them accessible)
  • Find any install disks for applications you paid for, most apps I use are free or open source, but I'm not a gamer.
  • -> they're probably outdated, but you'll need the license to update.
  • DO NOT install any crap - no tweakers, no registry optimizers. Get a base system and add what you need when you need it. If you rarely play a game or use an application, then leave it off.
I only advocate a re-install if I sense the user has difficulty following technical instructions or if the issue doesn't seem to be corrected using time tested methods. This isn't a knock to your abilities, it's just that some of this is part tech knowledge, part voodoo.

People are great here and they will spend their time if you follow their advice - to the letter. Wandering off into other forums, trying things that were not suggested here, or not providing feedback is a sure way to not get continued help from a member. Please try to focus on one post at a time, post the results and any other information requested - that will simplify your task and it makes it much easier to troubleshoot.

Now that I'm off my soapbox.......

Decide if you want to spend more time on the issue or if you accept that a clean install will fix all of the issues on your machine. As I read through this thread, I see that you have a few questions that divert attention from the issue. You might want to post new threads for those questions and keep dogging this issue here on this thread.

From your last screen shot (Win7 install disk - Repair) - did that fix the issue in this thread
"Strange startup problem"

Good luck,

Bill

EDIT: Never mind, I see Greg and you are working through the steps again.
 
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HP Pavilion dv6-6c10us
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x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
CPU
AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 1805
Memory
6.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6520G
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) IDT High Definiti
Monitor(s) Displays
HP W2072a 20" LCD (1600 x 900) @ 60 Hz
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
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ST640LM0 00 HM641JI SATA Disk Device
Keyboard
Logitech k520 wireless KB
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Logitech m320 wireless mouse (bundled with KB)
Internet Speed
15/5 | 54 MB Wireless 'n'
Antivirus
Realtime: Defender or Avast | On-demand: Malwarebytes, ESET
Browser
IE 11 on Win8, IE 10 on win 7
Other Info
Media: [Gimp, Audacity, VLC] || Comm: [WEmail 2012, Skype] || Productivity: [OpenOffice,| Textpad] || Utils: [Sysinternals, cCleaner, Speccy, Defraggler]
Yea sorry if it seems im not following instructions things that i ran that had nothing to do with whats posted i ran wbefore i joined the forum (dont want you to get the wrong idea)
 

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Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600 3.4ghz
Motherboard
Dell OVNP2H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
[ASUS] Nvidia GTX970 4GB (Mini Direct)
Sound Card
Intergraded
Monitor(s) Displays
3 Monitors 1# ViewSonic 23'" 2# ViewSonic 23'" 3# DELL 23"
Screen Resolution
1920X1080P X 3
Hard Drives
3 Internal Satas's (Two 7200RPM 1TB (WD) (1 Sata Velocirapto 10,000RPM 500GB)
1 External Mybook 4TB USB. 1External Passport 2TB.
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No problem, just my stern father side coming out. I understand that it is difficult to communicate what has been done, when you're just trying to provide as much information as you can. Take it in small chunks.

Yea sorry if it seems im not following instructions things that i ran that had nothing to do with whats posted i ran wbefore i joined the forum (dont want you to get the wrong idea)
 

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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion dv6-6c10us
OS
x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
CPU
AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 1805
Memory
6.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6520G
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) IDT High Definiti
Monitor(s) Displays
HP W2072a 20" LCD (1600 x 900) @ 60 Hz
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
ST640LM0 00 HM641JI SATA Disk Device
Keyboard
Logitech k520 wireless KB
Mouse
Logitech m320 wireless mouse (bundled with KB)
Internet Speed
15/5 | 54 MB Wireless 'n'
Antivirus
Realtime: Defender or Avast | On-demand: Malwarebytes, ESET
Browser
IE 11 on Win8, IE 10 on win 7
Other Info
Media: [Gimp, Audacity, VLC] || Comm: [WEmail 2012, Skype] || Productivity: [OpenOffice,| Textpad] || Utils: [Sysinternals, cCleaner, Speccy, Defraggler]
Will do, thanks for understanding Im a bit techy but some of these things are new to me lol
 

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Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600 3.4ghz
Motherboard
Dell OVNP2H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
[ASUS] Nvidia GTX970 4GB (Mini Direct)
Sound Card
Intergraded
Monitor(s) Displays
3 Monitors 1# ViewSonic 23'" 2# ViewSonic 23'" 3# DELL 23"
Screen Resolution
1920X1080P X 3
Hard Drives
3 Internal Satas's (Two 7200RPM 1TB (WD) (1 Sata Velocirapto 10,000RPM 500GB)
1 External Mybook 4TB USB. 1External Passport 2TB.
PSU
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Gar, could you post the following system information using the prefered method:
http://www.sevenforums.com/tutorials/9733-screenshots-files-upload-post-seven-forums.html

Speccy: file menu publish ( do not post the output, just post the link Piriform returns when you PUBLISH)

Disk Manangment: maximize the window and close the left & right panes (click the icons on either side of the help icon). The top pane, showing size, freespace, and drive flags (active, boot, system,primary,logical...) , the bottom pane showing disks and partiononing.

Here's my info as an example:
Published Speecy snapshot: http://speccy.piriform.com/results/CHlegp43qppad1Ua8dOLDAj
and the disk management screen shot (plus a shot of how to publish a Speccy snapshot):
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion dv6-6c10us
OS
x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
CPU
AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 1805
Memory
6.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6520G
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) IDT High Definiti
Monitor(s) Displays
HP W2072a 20" LCD (1600 x 900) @ 60 Hz
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
ST640LM0 00 HM641JI SATA Disk Device
Keyboard
Logitech k520 wireless KB
Mouse
Logitech m320 wireless mouse (bundled with KB)
Internet Speed
15/5 | 54 MB Wireless 'n'
Antivirus
Realtime: Defender or Avast | On-demand: Malwarebytes, ESET
Browser
IE 11 on Win8, IE 10 on win 7
Other Info
Media: [Gimp, Audacity, VLC] || Comm: [WEmail 2012, Skype] || Productivity: [OpenOffice,| Textpad] || Utils: [Sysinternals, cCleaner, Speccy, Defraggler]
Ok will do.......
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600 3.4ghz
Motherboard
Dell OVNP2H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
[ASUS] Nvidia GTX970 4GB (Mini Direct)
Sound Card
Intergraded
Monitor(s) Displays
3 Monitors 1# ViewSonic 23'" 2# ViewSonic 23'" 3# DELL 23"
Screen Resolution
1920X1080P X 3
Hard Drives
3 Internal Satas's (Two 7200RPM 1TB (WD) (1 Sata Velocirapto 10,000RPM 500GB)
1 External Mybook 4TB USB. 1External Passport 2TB.
PSU
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Also, please don't let my requests distract you from the other tasks you were doing (post#49). My requests are for infomation - the other steps will help resolve the issue.

If you get stuck or have a question, Greg is the best to help you through those steps. Kepp him up-to-date as you complete the steps - always what you did (reference a step in a tutorial if needed) and post the outcome

Thanks

Bill
.
 

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Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
HP Pavilion dv6-6c10us
OS
x64 (6.3.9600) Win8.1 Pro & soon dual boot x64 (6.1.7601) Win7_SP1 HomePrem
CPU
AMD A6-3420M APU with Radeon(tm) HD Graphics
Motherboard
Hewlett-Packard 1805
Memory
6.00 GB
Graphics Card(s)
AMD Radeon(TM) HD 6520G
Sound Card
(1) AMD High Definition Audio Device (2) IDT High Definiti
Monitor(s) Displays
HP W2072a 20" LCD (1600 x 900) @ 60 Hz
Screen Resolution
1366 x 768 x 32 bits (4294967296 colors) @ 60 Hz
Hard Drives
ST640LM0 00 HM641JI SATA Disk Device
Keyboard
Logitech k520 wireless KB
Mouse
Logitech m320 wireless mouse (bundled with KB)
Internet Speed
15/5 | 54 MB Wireless 'n'
Antivirus
Realtime: Defender or Avast | On-demand: Malwarebytes, ESET
Browser
IE 11 on Win8, IE 10 on win 7
Other Info
Media: [Gimp, Audacity, VLC] || Comm: [WEmail 2012, Skype] || Productivity: [OpenOffice,| Textpad] || Utils: [Sysinternals, cCleaner, Speccy, Defraggler]
Not a problem working on it now, I appreciate it i really do
 

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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600 3.4ghz
Motherboard
Dell OVNP2H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
[ASUS] Nvidia GTX970 4GB (Mini Direct)
Sound Card
Intergraded
Monitor(s) Displays
3 Monitors 1# ViewSonic 23'" 2# ViewSonic 23'" 3# DELL 23"
Screen Resolution
1920X1080P X 3
Hard Drives
3 Internal Satas's (Two 7200RPM 1TB (WD) (1 Sata Velocirapto 10,000RPM 500GB)
1 External Mybook 4TB USB. 1External Passport 2TB.
PSU
650W
Internet Speed
50up 50down Fios
Please follow Greg's excellent advice.

Just a note here-in your video you mention Advanced System Care. This should be removed to eliminate a possible cause of corruption. Most "tune up" applications cause more harm than fixes to a system

:ditto::ditto::ditto:
 

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MSI GE72VR Apache Pro-416
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Windows 10x64 Build 1709
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Intel i7 7700HQ Kaby Lake
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Micro-Star Intl. MS-179B (U3C1)
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16 GB DDR4 @2400
Graphics Card(s)
Nvidia Geforce GTX 1060
Screen Resolution
1920x1080 120Hz
Hard Drives
256 GB Nvme M.2 SSD

1TB HDD@7200
Cooling
Cooler Blast 4
Keyboard
Steel Series
Antivirus
Bit Defender Free
Browser
Edge

My Computer My Computer

Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Optiplex 990
OS
Windows 7 Ultimate x64
CPU
Intel i7 2600 3.4ghz
Motherboard
Dell OVNP2H
Memory
16GB
Graphics Card(s)
[ASUS] Nvidia GTX970 4GB (Mini Direct)
Sound Card
Intergraded
Monitor(s) Displays
3 Monitors 1# ViewSonic 23'" 2# ViewSonic 23'" 3# DELL 23"
Screen Resolution
1920X1080P X 3
Hard Drives
3 Internal Satas's (Two 7200RPM 1TB (WD) (1 Sata Velocirapto 10,000RPM 500GB)
1 External Mybook 4TB USB. 1External Passport 2TB.
PSU
650W
Internet Speed
50up 50down Fios
Disk Mgmt looks correct. Unplug the other HD if you repair or reinstall.
 
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