Windows Update Kills my computer????

Splatercash

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Ok, this might take some explaining as I'm not that technically minded.

I bought an all singing all dancing computer in Nov 09 complete with Windows 7 Professional 64-bit. A week after I got my computer Windows Update intalled some essential updates. Immediately after the restart I noticed that my Logitech G15 keyboard display was cycling through the functions for no obvious reason. Over the next few days more and more strange activity occurred until it got to the point that Window 7 locked up and didn't work at all. Even Task Manger would freeze, yet programs that were open (word, mozilla, games, etc) would still run fine.

A friend who is technically minded spent ages trying to roll back drivers, etc to figure out what was wrong. System restore failed as did all other attempts. In the end, as the comp was only a week old, I cut my loses and reinstalled Windows 7 onto a freshly formatted drive.

Fast forward trouble free computing until today....

So, I get up and windows wants to install another update. I've updated several times over the last few months with no problems so I tell it to install the essential stuff. I'm so paranoid that I never let it install things without my permission and never install optional stuff. After the restart the G15 display is playing up....and I already know!

Sure enough, the first thing to die is Karspersky which thinks all of it's databases are obsolete and turns itself off. Rather than waiting for Windows to slowly die like the last time I tried a system restore. This failed to fix the problem.

Eventually I resorted to my back up plan which I put in place after the first failure in November. Basically I have 3 hard drives: an SSD c:drive and two 1TB data drives. I use one of those drives solely as a back up of the other two and it takes a complete back up and system image every week.

I booted from my Windows 7 disk formatted the other two drives and installed the computer back to exactly how it was when it last backed up at the weekend. This resolved the problem.

However, windows update is now pestering me to install the updates shown in the picture below. I obviously don't want to do that because it absolutely kills my computer (I can't stress how utterly unusable it became that last time around. Strangest crash I've ever seen....it even got the point that 'safe mode' wouldn't work!!). However, I've paid good money for a genuine copy of Win 7 despite a perfect cracked copy being available to me at the time. It seems crazy to have done that and to not use the update facilities?

Does anyone have any clue what is doing on? Also, why do MS release essential updates that do so much damange?

FWIW I was fairly certain it was the malicious software removal tool that caused the problems in November and is comes as little surprise that the Feb edition of that tool was in this mornings updates.....is it the cause?

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Not realy an answer but you should be able to right click on an update in the list and choose to hide it - this will mean that you will not be prompted to load install the particular update in the future.

as to why this is causing issues with your system all I can suggest is that you, to be safe, perform a full malware scan, just in case the malicious software removal tool is actually finding something, (part of it's install routine actually runs a scan ;) though even this may be a false positive).

I would also check on the latest drivers for the effected hardware at the the hardware manufacturer's site, we have other users of the same keyboard here and yours is the first issue I have seen here with updates

@electrotune1200 read up on what? was there supposed to be a link? :confused: :)
 

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Just ran a full Virus Scan with Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2010. Is that sufficient to find all malware or should I be running some other program(s).
 

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I forgot to post the link.... sorry

It's posted now
 

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Toshiba P300
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Windows 8 Pro
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Intel Centrino Dual Core P7450 2.13GHz
Memory
4gb
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ATI Mobility Raedon HD3650
Hard Drives
Toshiba MK3252GSX ATA
Internet Speed
Wish it were faster
Just ran a full Virus Scan with Kaspersky Anti-Virus 2010. Is that sufficient to find all malware or should I be running some other program(s).

I would suggest a scan with Malwarebytes just to be sure, probably KIS would find anything but never hurts to double check :)

Malwarebytes.org
 

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    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
Malwarebytes found 4 infected files but nothing that looked too serious. 3 of them I could 'account' for - if that makes any sense.

Pretty confident my computer is clean and in good working order. I'm quite careful with it as it is vital to my work.

Seems to be the case that MS occassionally release an update that just doesn't agree with it. My guess is that the malware removal tools are usually to blame so I think I'll avoid installing them. I've got Kaspersky scanning regularly and using real-time protection and I'll regularly scan with Malwarebytes.
 

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Windows 7 Professional
My own policy with updates from Windows update is to check as to the actual issues/potential issues that they are designed to fix and to de-select anything that I know will not apply to me, although I do tend to install all security related updates.

I never install driver updates from WU but If I see an update available i will check with the manufacturer's site to see what they are currently offering.

basically I use WU as an information system but still make the final decision myself

I also insert a manual restore point before any update
 

My Computers

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  • Computer type
    PC/Desktop
    Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
    ChillBlast - Custom to my design
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 [Latest Release and Release Preview]
    CPU
    Ryzen 9 5950X, 3.8 - 5.2 MHz
    Motherboard
    Asus Prime X570-Pro
    Memory
    64GB [2 x 32GB] DDR4 3200MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1650 Ti
    Sound Card
    On-board SPDIF to 5.1 System + HDMI [5.1 system]
    Monitor(s) Displays
    32" UHD 32 Bit HDR Monitor + 43" UHD 4K 32Bit HDR TV
    Screen Resolution
    2 x 3840 x 2160 @60Hz
    Hard Drives
    1TB M2 SSD OS, 500GB Fast Access SSD, 2 x 8TB Data + Various Externals from 1TB to 4TB, 10TB NAS
    PSU
    NZXT C750 80 PLUS Gold 750W Modular PSU
    Case
    Workstation Case [Matt Black]
    Cooling
    NZXT Kraken X63 280mm CPU Cooler +2x Quiet Case fans
    Keyboard
    Logitech Wireless MX Keys & K400 + others
    Mouse
    Logitech Wireless MX Master 3S
    Internet Speed
    920 MB Down 50 MB Up
    Antivirus
    BitDefender Total Security Pro
    Browser
    Chrome (always run latest Non-Beta)
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    Samsung 10.2" tablet
    Blackview TAB 8 4G Android Tablet c/w Keyboard
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control
  • Computer type
    Laptop
    System Manufacturer/Model Number
    Dell XPS 17 10750H
    OS
    Windows 11 Pro x64 Latest RP
    CPU
    Intel I7 10750H 5.0GHz
    Motherboard
    Dell XPS
    Memory
    32GB [2x16GB] DDR4 2933 MHz
    Graphics Card(s)
    nVidia GTX1650Ti 4 GB GDDR6
    Sound Card
    Stock [Realtek] 4 Speaker
    Monitor(s) Displays
    17" IPS UHD+ Infinity Edge Touchscreen
    Screen Resolution
    3840 x 2400
    Hard Drives
    2TB M2 NVMe, 4TB External + various 500GB & 1TB External NVMe (also have access to spinner HDD from
    PSU
    Stock
    Case
    Stock XPS Aluminium & Carbon Fibre
    Cooling
    Stock - Active Fan Control
    Keyboard
    Backlit + Various Logitech
    Mouse
    Stock Track Pad + Logitech MX Trackball
    Internet Speed
    72 MB Down 18MB Up
    Browser
    Chrome
    Other Info
    Also run ...
    Laptop - Quad 8GB - Windows 10 Pro x64
    Nexus 7 Android tablet x2
    10.2" tablet
    Sony Z3 Android Smartphone
    Wacom Intuos Pro Medium Pen Pad
    Wacom Intuos Pro Small Pen Pad
    Wacom Expresskeys Remote
    Loopdeck+ Graphics Controller
    Shuttle Pro v2 Control Pad
    10TB NAS
Those updates have caused numerous issues. Their minor revisions don't seem to be helping anyone either. All I can say is wait on the update(s) to be fixed, then install them 1 by 1 manually.
 

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7 Pro
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