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okay will keep that in mind, thanks again :)
 

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oh btw i found the caviar black 2tb wd... but i think its not SATA 3 but instead its SATA 2.. is it still as good as the 3?
 

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oh btw i found the caviar black 2tb wd... but i think its not SATA 3 but instead its SATA 2.. is it still as good as the 3?

The above is new to me. Could someone enlighten me as to the differences on SATA 1, SATA 2 and SATA 3? Thanks,
 

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As I understand it, hdds do not even use the full capabilities of SATA 2, so SATA 3 versus SATA 2 regarding an hdd does not really make a difference. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I am writing this from memory based on something one of the Gurus said on these forums.

See post #8 and post #9.
 
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As I understand it, hdds do not even use the full capabilities of SATA 2, so SATA 3 versus SATA 2 regarding an hdd does not really make a difference. Feel free to correct me if I am wrong. I am writing this from memory based on something one of the Gurus said on these forums.

See post #8 and post #9.


You are absolutely correct. No mechanical hard drive can break the sata 2 barrier much less sata 3. It was only fairly recently that SSDs could break the barrier. In my opinion, there is no sense in paying more for a sata 3 mechanical hard drive. Sata 2 hard drives will be just as fast.
 

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My last "cheap" Seagate Barracuda was a sata 3. I just noticed by chance then realized it meant nothing really.
 

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My last "cheap" Seagate Barracuda was a sata 3. I just noticed by chance then realized it meant nothing really.

If I am buying a HD, do I have to make sure it is a SATA 2 and not a SATA 1 or is there no SATA 1 on the market now?
 

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If I am buying a HD, do I have to make sure it is a SATA 2 and not a SATA 1 or is there no SATA 1 on the market now?

I believe that finding a new SATA 1 drive at this time is highly unlikely.

I believe that the Sata 1, 2, and 3 designations are unofficial. They're SATA 1.5, 3, and 6 Gbps. 1.5Gbps is over 187 MBps, which is fast enough for many mechanical drives. That was good enough for the original Raptor (10,000 RPM) drives from Western Digital.
 

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I think SATA 2 (3Gb/s) is the de facto baseline now so I'd go with that but in this old test it appears the difference between SATA 1 (1.5Gb/s) and SATA 2 is marginal at best.
SATA vs SATA II
This gives a better description of SATA 1,2,3
Serial ATA - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

My conclusion: Pick a Sata 2 for a spinner (if it's sata 3 compatible fine but won't make a difference)
 

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If your question was would it work, any sata drive will work they are all backward compatible.
 

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Wow thanku so much for all the advices and explanations i get it now :D ((Happy))
 

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The 7200.11 were problematic, but the 7200.12 seemed to correct those problems.

It was a certain build period defined by the serial numbers, any of them outside those specific serial numbers are working just fine, I have a 7200.11 as a primary HDD in one of my computers and have had good performance with it for three years.

Firmware Update for Seagate 7200.11
This was around Jan '09.


Some of the new hard drives are SATA revision 3.0 (SATA 6 Gbit/s) and can't reach SATA revision 2.0 speeds.
I bought a new HDD, just before the price increase, and recently discovered it is a SATA 6 Gbit/s model. Can't say that I notice any difference in performance.
 

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I bought a new HDD, just before the price increase, and recently discovered it is a SATA 6 Gbit/s model. Can't say that I notice any difference in performance.
So did I and you won't notice any difference. But then given backward compatibility (3Gb/s should work in a 6Gb/s port) I fail to see the point unless it is an assurance of backward compatibility.
 

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Hi.. So i followed u guys advices and bought myself the WD 2TB caviar black..

I do full-format for its first use and stupid me that i connect it using hdd adapter and usb 2.0..

The format process so slow.. I guess theres no turning back now ryte since its been running 20% and i dont want to risk by cancelling it so i just might better off wait tho its gonna take a very loonngg time :D

But its still gonna run fine ryte whether i format it using sata or adapter? Its only the time taken that differs ryte? Afraid that i might risk the disk.. Im getting paranoid now lol
 

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A "quick format" takes only seconds. A "full format" will take several hours. I never heard of a problem in cancelling an in-progress full format, but it's your choice.
 

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I'd just let it run.
Furthermore for a new HDD I'd be even more patient and run a full scan for bad blocks (~ 4 hours for 2TB depending on PC). Given the price of HDDs now if I get bad blocks, the HDD gets returned.
 

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Okay great thNks a lot...!!
 

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and i have been running the full format for almost 12 hours and it is so slow that it is now with 33% ... lol i should hv known that using the adapter will slow the process... now im just gonna wait :sigh:

so after its been formatted i wiill run the chkdsk on it?
 

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That is too long.
I suggest you stop it and do
(1) Disk Clean (NOT Clean all)
(2) a quick format. Set disk primary NTFS.
(3) file system check (should be minutes)
(4) a scan for bad blocks. Now this will take time but you will get progress feedback.

If these processes are confusing to you get back.
 

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okay... im formatting it via disk management and i dont know how to stop it.. there is no button or anything for me to click and yes it is too long... now it on 46% ... :(

secondly what do u mean by disk clean? the HDD is still new..

and a system check? is it scan disk? as well as step no.4?
 

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