Solved How to sell new computers with Windows preinstalled?

dotniet

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Let's say I want to build and sell computers. Can I preinstall Windows (7 or 10) without license on it using the Ctrl+Shift+F3 trick and let the user purchase a Windows license and activate by himself?
 

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amd
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Probably not - is my guess; could cause some ill-will; let's see what others have to add :)
 

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Windows 7 Professional 64-bitDesktop i5; Acers i5 & i7desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Antec desktop; Acer Aspire laptops
OS
Windows 7 Professional 64-bit
CPU
Desktop i5; Acers i5 & i7
Memory
desktop 16GB; 1 Acer 8GB & 1 Acer 16GB
Hard Drives
1TB split into 2 equal partitions [OS and data] usable by RJS
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AT&T DSL
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FF, GChrome, msIE
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Windows 7 Firewall, Emsisoft AM/AV, MSE [scan-only], SpywareBlaster, Ruiware/BillP combine
But basically I only deliver a trial version of Windows (since it is not activated).
 

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win7 64amd32
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
custom
OS
win7 64
CPU
amd
Memory
32

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Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
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EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
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Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
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2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads

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custom
OS
win7 64
CPU
amd
Memory
32
If you`re gonna do that, you may as well not even install an OS.

But you`d have to at least offer them a choice.
 

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Windows 10 Pro x64Intel Core i7 6700KGSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Skylake Special #666
OS
Windows 10 Pro x64
CPU
Intel Core i7 6700K
Motherboard
Asus Sabertooth Z170 Mark 1
Memory
GSkill TridentZ RGB 16GB 3600 16-16-16-36
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA GTX 980 Ti SC x2
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Realtek High Definition
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AOC G2460PG
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
Samsung 860 Pro 256GB, Seagate Barracuda 4TB x2
PSU
EVGA 1000 P2, EVGA White Custom Braided Cables
Case
Corsair Vengeance C70 Gunmetal Black
Cooling
Corsair H100i v2, Corsair ML120 x2, Thermal Grizzly Kryonaut
Keyboard
Logitech G910 Orion Spectrum
Mouse
Logitech G700s
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Verizon Fios Quantum Gateway 75/75
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Windows Defender, Malwarebytes Free 3.8.3
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Chrome
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Corsair SP120 x4, LG Blu-ray Drive, Durabrand HT-395 100 Watt Dolby Digital Amp, Corsair H2100 Wireless 7.1 Headset
Hi:

I mean no disrespect, but this sounds like a really bad idea, even if -- strictly speaking -- it may be legal.

An unsophisticated or unsuspecting buyer might be tempted by what I presume will be a "good price" (since the system lacks an OS).
S/he might not know that LEGAL Win7 licenses are extremely scarce now.
So s/he might (unknowingly) become the victim of a scam, purchasing what turns out to be an illegal license from a questionable source (or the wrong type of license), only to run into validation issues later.
Such a buyer would likely lack the skills to sort out the nuances of purchasing a valid Windows 7 license.

Even if you were to "cover your behind" with some sort of disclaimer with the sale, the buyer would end up in a bind as a result of their good-faith system purchase from you.

While a knowledgeable buyer would know what they were getting into, a less savvy buyer would feel cheated of their money (twice -- for the box and for the license) by a deal that may have seemed "too good to be true".

Just my two cents and worth less,

MM
 

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OEM Windows 7 Ult (x64) SP1Intel Core-i7 3770 @ 3.4 GHz16 GB DDR3 SDRAM @ 1333 MHzNVidia GeForce GT620 1 GB
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PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Dell Studio XPS 8500
OS
OEM Windows 7 Ult (x64) SP1
CPU
Intel Core-i7 3770 @ 3.4 GHz
Motherboard
"Dell" branded
Memory
16 GB DDR3 SDRAM @ 1333 MHz
Graphics Card(s)
NVidia GeForce GT620 1 GB
Sound Card
THX TruStudio PC
Monitor(s) Displays
Dell U2410 Full HD
Hard Drives
2.0 TB SATA2 @ 7200 RPM
PSU
350W
Keyboard
MS 4000 Ergon - Wired
Mouse
Logitech Anywhere MX
Internet Speed
Cable HSI w/Turbo (router)
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KIS-MBAM Premium-MBAE Premium
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Fx (current version); IE
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And a Win7/64 Pro laptop; And a Win10/64 Pro desktop.
It must be Windows... for some good reason.
 

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custom
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win7 64
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amd
Memory
32
Hi:
Even if you were to "cover your behind" with some sort of disclaimer with the sale,
MM
I will put a huge sticker to explain that the PC is without a windows license not just a fine print disclaimer. I am trying to sell the PC as 'support' for a piece of software. Basically the software is important, the PC is just 'accessory'.


PS: in Europe it is ok to purchase a Windows 7 OEM license.
 

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custom
OS
win7 64
CPU
amd
Memory
32
If they are going to have to pay for it anyway, just buy & install it already, , ?
 

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Windows 7 Home Premium bitamd?4 gig
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Laptop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
toshiba 505
OS
Windows 7 Home Premium bit
CPU
amd?
Motherboard
?
Memory
4 gig
Monitor(s) Displays
Samsung S27D360 &S24D300 - Acer K222HQL - Eizo 21" (4x3)
Screen Resolution
1280 x 720 -1600x900 - (eizo 1024x768
Hard Drives
240 ssd
PSU
amd (?)
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logitech tackball
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360 total security
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firefox portable 29.0.1
If they are going to have to pay for it anyway, just buy & install it already, , ?
You have a point. And I would like to do that. But it seems complicate to register as a Microsoft distributor.
 

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custom
OS
win7 64
CPU
amd
Memory
32
Hi,
I doubt it's a big deal to just offer to furnish a key for the install for however much it takes at the time as long as you stand behind the key being genuine :)

I do believe you have to work out the term New to a more realist Refurbished label seeing they are more refurbished than new ;)
 

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Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64biti7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM'...Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Computer type
PC/Desktop
Computer Manufacturer/Model Number
Custom assembled by me :}
OS
Win-7-Pro64bit 7-H-Prem-64bit
CPU
i7-5930K 2nd i9-9940x both water blocked VRM's too
Motherboard
ASUS SABERTOOTH X99 2nd ASUS x299 Apex
Memory
Trident-z 3200C14 2nd Trident-z 3600C16
Graphics Card(s)
EVGA 1080ti ftw3 2nd Titan Xp both water blocked
Sound Card
Built-in Realtek
Monitor(s) Displays
1-AOC G2460PG 24"G-Sync 144Hz/ 2nd 1-ASUS VG248QE 24" 144Hz
Screen Resolution
1920 x 1080 144Hz
Hard Drives
2-Samsung M.2 Evo & Evo Plus
2-Samsung 850 EVO 500GB SSD's/ 3-2.5 W.D. Black 1tb-&3-1tb/3-3.5 WD Black 1tb hdd's
PSU
EVGA SuperNOVA 1000-P2 2nd 1200-P2
Case
2-Corsair Obsidian Series 450D Black ATX Mid Tower
Cooling
Custom water loops
Keyboard
Logitech G710+/ 2nd Logitech G910
Mouse
2-RedDragon M901 Perdition 16400 dpi Gaming mouse = wired
Internet Speed
Comcast Ping 19ms 89.31mbps download speed 6.12mbps upload
Antivirus
Malwarebytes Pro/ Superantispyware Pro
Browser
FireFox & Pale moon
Other Info
2nd ASUS X299 Apex/Intel i9-9940x with Custom water loop/7H-Prem-x64/Corsair 450D case/Ram Trident-z 3600C16 4x8gb / Samsung970Evo plus 500gb SSD/Dual ssd EZ swap evo/PSU EVGA SuperNova 1200w-P2 80+Platinum/GPU Titan Xp /8-ML-140 on push-pull on 2-280GTX rads
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