NOD32 caused slow-down, AVAST hasn't

[Frostmourne]

NOD32 is the only AV I have ever continued to use. I've tried others but always went back. Never had a single problem with NOD32.

Fair enough, but its now unnecessary - MSE has everything you need or will use for nothing.

I also like MSE, but after reading numerous reviews, they always say avast and nod32 are still better than it? =\

Make up your own mind - they are just reviews.

 

[Dinesh]

IMHO, they both suck.

Reason:
While MSE may be good at detecting viruses, but not spywares, adwares and other malwares. Its backed up by Microsoft's weak engine which is used by windows defender as well. It doesnt really makes sense if MSE detects viruses and leaves keyloggers, spywares, etc. on the PC. Also, 60-75 MB RAM when idle, excuse me! :huh:

I had been an ESET fan for 2 yrs but lately, I have noticed that the detections and removal capabilities of ESET is diminishing day by day..
If you need an evidence about ESET failing to remove virus, click here: http://www.sevenforums.com/system-security/67557-eset-failing.html
At times, ESET tries to take control over your PC, which no one likes. I have been using ESET from 2007-2009 but I will pass it this year.

 

[Frostmourne]

IMHO, they both suck.

Reason:
While MSE may be good at detecting viruses, but not spywares, adwares and other malwares. Its backed up by Microsoft's weak engine which is used by windows defender as well. It doesnt really makes sense if MSE detects viruses and leaves keyloggers, spywares, etc. on the PC. Also, 60-75 MB RAM when idle, excuse me! :huh:

I had been an ESET fan for 2 yrs but lately, I have noticed that the detections and removal capabilities of ESET is diminishing day by day..
If you need an evidence about ESET failing to remove virus, click here: http://www.sevenforums.com/system-security/67557-eset-failing.html
At times, ESET tries to take control over your PC, which no one likes. I have been using ESET from 2007-2009 but I will pass it this year.

Most who use it back it up with Malwarebytes, so that is a non-issue. I wouldn't trust Norton to tell me my PC is clean.

 

[Dinesh]

 

[Frostmourne]

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So?

 

[Dinesh]

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So?

If you still cant understand, Im sorry there's no better explanation.

 

[Frostmourne]

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So?

If you still cant understand, Im sorry there's no better explanation.

One test, so what? Do you deliberately go onto random sites to get spyware?

 

[tw33k]

You can't decide based on 1 test. You'll get different results everywhere. http://www.sevenforums.com/system-security/68058-nod32-caused-slow-down-avast-hasnt.html#post602393

Look how poorly Symantec did in this one.

@ Dinesh: how does NOD32 try to take control of your computer? I have never seen or heard anything like this. If it wasn't for the notice it gives once it's updated, I wouldn't even know it's there.

 

[Dinesh]

So?

If you still cant understand, Im sorry there's no better explanation.

One test, so what? Do you deliberately go onto random sites to get spyware?

Yes, that's my hobby.

 

[Frostmourne]

If you still cant understand, Im sorry there's no better explanation.

One test, so what? Do you deliberately go onto random sites to get spyware?

Yes, that's my hobby.

Not what a standard user would do - so MSE is still a valid option.

 

[Dinesh]

The only difference would be is that I know what I download but a standard user wont know what he is downloading.

 

[tw33k]

I think MSE is a valid for some but I will continue to argue that it is FAR from the best AV available. There are better options.

 

[Frostmourne]

The only difference would be is that I know what I download but a standard user wont know what he is downloading.

He would if Antivirus 2009 popped up suddenly.

 

[antharr]

I don't even know why I use an antivirus. I get a virus then big deal. I have a clean image ready to go and I have portable scanners and Eset's online scanner if I need them.

 

[Carbonyl]

I don't even know why I use an antivirus. I get a virus then big deal. I have a clean image ready to go and I have portable scanners and Eset's online scanner if I need them.

Because some virus packages out there don't make it very obvious when you get infected, so you'd never know. And even with the ones that are obvious, if they drop a rootkit, you'll never be removing that with a portable scanner or an online scanner. Even if you remove the 'obvious' portion of the virus, the leftovers you never saw still own your system.

It's not about removal, it's about prevention.

All the imagine and reinstalling in the world aren't going to recover your stolen email accounts, credit card numbers, or bank accounts once they get compromised.

 

[squall leonhart]

Not to start a riot, but I am no fan of spyware, and AFAIC MSE is spyware; checking your system to see if you have illegal software, cracks or the like. That's not looking for AV and viruses... that's being a cop.

um.... lol?

MSE doesn't do this any more than Kaspersky, Norton or McAffe do. actually it does it less......

 

[remm]

Not to start a riot, but I am no fan of spyware, and AFAIC MSE is spyware; checking your system to see if you have illegal software, cracks or the like. That's not looking for AV and viruses... that's being a cop.

um.... lol?

MSE doesn't do this any more than Kaspersky, Norton or McAffe do. actually it does it less......

Excuse me? Proof of your claim, please! Kapersky, Norton, McAffe etc do not have a stake in how many people are running non-genuine Windows or non-genuine MS software... only MS does. From what I understand MSE runs a "genuine windows check" and might also look for "cracks and illegal software". More importantly, is it a POOR anti-virus program, according to independent tests.

Please provide proof that Kapersky et al look to see if your OS is genuine, and perhaps also look for other illegal software while they're at it, as you indicate they "do more than MSE." Looking for viruses and looking for cracks are two different things. A crack should only be targeted if infected. Looking for illegal software is not the job of an AV. Running a genuine windows check is playing cop. Kapersky does NOT do this, nor does any AV except M$'s M$E.

 

[squall leonhart]

Kaspersky is far more intrusive at looking for cracks, keygens and activation files. and MSE requiring Activation isn't intrusive at all.

Before going off on a tangent you might want to monitor the processes activities, it only reads the Activation and WGA data from the registry. Installing IE or WMP does exactly the same thing, the only difference is it doesn't deactivate those softwares.

MSE is free, for all legitimate owners of Microsoft Windows. You're seeing (and creating) controversy where there is no need for any.

 

[tempname857]

I *am* curious to know if other NOD32 users have noticed either of these behaviors... the slow deletes OR the hanging at the very end when downloading a file? ... I wonder if it has to do with the chipset or CPU? I know I have had the hanging problem even on my desktop... about the only thing it has in common with my laptop is that I am an AMD and nVidia fan, so all my systems use AMDs. (And my desktop also uses an nVidia graphics card, like my laptop, but the chipset on the desktop is not nVidia.)

ACER Aspire 4530
AMD Athlon 64 x2 (2Ghz), 3GB RAM
nVidia chipset

Ug thank you for making this thread, I have the SAME issues (on Vista 32).

I thought it was Vista just being slow, because I've always loved nod32 and felt that it was a great AV program. (Or possibly my really old 7200 RPM hard drive.)

However, the random freezes in loading video games (HDD reads), slow program startup, freezes at the end of file transfers (both local and Firefox downloads), etc. are just getting to be TOO MUCH.

I bought Windows 7 Ultimate 64 bit from the campus store (student license) yesterday and when I go home for summer this weekend I will be reformatting and installing it.

And it looks like nod(64) won't have a place on my comp any more.

Currently I'm using NOD32 3.0.621.0 and Vista 32 bit and I have the same issues as the OP. AMD Phenom II triple core processor, 4 GB DDR3, nVidia GTX260, there's nothing in my system to blame the stops and stutters on besides software.

Do Avast or MSE do the same file scanning on load/read/write sort of deal that I think is causing my problems in nod32? If so, I guess one or both don't have the bad algorithms that nod32 has?

 

[Dinesh]

Hi tempname, your problem is that you are using a very old version of nod32.